Croom rubbing off on Stockstill apparently..

[MSUCostanza]

Why the F did he go for 2? Now they are down 9 and have to score twice. If you kick the PAT you are only down 1 possession. Idiotic decision.

 

[MSUCostanza]

Why the F did he go for 2? Now they are down 9 and have to score twice. If you kick the PAT you are only down 1 possession. Idiotic decision.

 

[CdawgNHouston]

I thought the same thing. idiotic big time. we may still pull this out now.

 

[ArrowDawg]

.....and make it an 8 point game if anything to encourage your players to thinking they still have a chance to win. Going for 2 and failing right there ended the game for all intents and purposes.

 

[CdawgNHouston]

MTSU still has plenty of time.

 

[Coach34]

he was going to have to go for 2 then or after another TD...not that big of a deal

 

[MSUCostanza]

Kick the PAT, you are down 8. You know - especially with Croom - that we are going to run 3 straight off tackle and punt. They would've gotten the ball back with over a minute left, and a TD and 2-pointer ties it.

 

[Uncle Leo]

But as the color commentator said when asked if he liked the decision to go for 2, "Yeah... Why not? You gotta go for it sooner or later."

Yeah, but if you don't get it, you're down two scores.

Morons.

 

[MSUCostanza]

You actually coached football? Jeebus that is hilarious.

Go for two on the tying touchdown, not on the TD before it. It's dumb. You don't get the 2, you're down 9 and the game is over. Kick the PAT and you are still just one possession down.

 

[hatfieldms]

You actually coached football? Jeebus that is hilarious.

Go for two on the tying touchdown, not on the TD before it. It's dumb. You don't get the 2, you're down 9 and the game is over. Kick the PAT and you are still just one possession down.

Just remember who you are dealing with here

 

[Uncle Leo]

Well, you should see now why it was a retarded decision. After not converting, they're down 9. You can't score 9 points on one possession.

Kick the PAT and you're down 8. You CAN score 8 points on one possession.

 

[MSUCostanza]

I cannot believe someone allowed this guy to coach football.

 

[hatfieldms]

I cannot believe someone allowed this guy to coach football.

Hell I can't believe he is a state fan. I doubt he was ever either

 

[patdog]

You've got to go for 2 either now or on the next TD, and no matter when you go for it if you miss it you've got to score an additional time to win. I'd just as soon find out I've got to score two more times with 2:45 left on the clock than find out with 15 seconds on the clock that I've got to score again. And if you've got all 3 time outs left with 2:45 left going for 2 now might affect whether or not you have to try on onsides kickoff or not.</p>

 

[MSUCostanza]

Kick the PAT. If you need one 2-point conversion, you always go for it on the tying TD. How hard is this to understand?

Would you rather be down 8 or down 9 with 2 minutes left? That's 1 possession vs. 2 possessions.

Then say, would you rather be down 7 or 8 with 2 minutes left? Think about that. You need a TD either way. I'd rather just need one score and put it all on that last 2-point try. Especially with Croom on the other sideline, you know you're going to get the ball one more time.

I sorta see what you're saying, but down 2 scores with 2 minutes left is a lot different than being down 2 points with an onside kick coming.

As it turned out, MTSU got the ball back with 1:38 to go. But they were down 9 instead of 8 and had no chance. Down 8, they'd still have a shot.

 

[josebrown]

You've got to go for 2 either now or on the next TD, and no matter when you go for it if you miss it you've got to score an additional time to win. I'd just as soon find out I've got to score two more times with 2:45 left on the clock than find out with 15 seconds on the clock that I've got to score again. And if you've got all 3 time outs left with 2:45 left going for 2 now might affect whether or not you have to try on onsides kickoff or not.</p>

Jackies chart and every other coach, except probably Crxxms, says kick the pat and go for two to tie... I didn't believe it when he went for two.

Well, Crxxms got number 3. We'll see if its enough. I think its the last W for the year. I hope the rumor is correct and they come up with an agreeable buyout.

 

[Coach34]

they had to go for 2 at some point- it doesnt 17'ing matter when they do it....So, they were down by 9? Its the same if they had been down by 2 and didnt make it- when you dont get the two, you dont tie the game- so they were still down 2 scores...

 

[topbulldawg]

You've got to go for 2 either now or on the next TD, and no matter when you go for it if you miss it you've got to score an additional time to win. I'd just as soon find out I've got to score two more times with 2:45 left on the clock than find out with 15 seconds on the clock that I've got to score again. And if you've got all 3 time outs left with 2:45 left going for 2 now might affect whether or not you have to try on onsides kickoff or not.</p>

This is exactly how I see it.........

 

[patdog]

MTSU's 2-point play DIDN'T WORK. And if it didn't work with 2:45 left in the game, what makes you think it would work in the final seconds of the game? You'd rather miss a 2-point conversion with 2:45 left in the game than in the final seconds. At least then you have some time to try to do something about it.

In reality, we're arguing about not much of anything. Whether you miss the 2-point conversion with 2:45 left in the game or in the final seconds, you are screwed either way.</p>

 

[hatfieldms]

MTSU's 2-point play DIDN'T WORK. And if it didn't work with 2:45 left in the game, what makes you think it would work in the final seconds of the game? You'd rather miss a 2-point conversion with 2:45 left in the game than in the final seconds. At least then you have some time to try to do something about it.

In reality, we're arguing about not much of anything. Whether you miss the 2-point conversion with 2:45 left in the game or in the final seconds, you are screwed either way.</p>

That doesnt even make sense. if you kick the extra point then atleast you have a CHANCE to tie it in the last 2 minutes

 

[Coach34]

"if you kick the extra point then atleast you have a CHANCE to tie it in the last 2 minutes "

If they had made it, all they would have had to do is kick the XP the next time....if they arent going to convert the two, it doesnt matter if you were only down 8 cause you would still be down 2...the problem is not converting, not when they did it

 

[Sutterkane]

if you're ahead one possession, you have to come out and run your offense. you can run it 3 times and run clock down, but the other team will be able to get the ball and score and tie potentially, so you have to try and get first downs any way you can, which means there is more room for error, turnovers, whatever.

if you're ahead two possessions, you can pretty much just run the ball 6 times(even if they score after you punt the first time) and eat about 4 minutes of clock up plus all of their timeouts and not worry about taking chances.

 

[hankp]

"if you kick the extra point then atleast you have a CHANCE to tie it in the last 2 minutes "

If they had made it, all they would have had to do is kick the XP the next time....if they arent going to convert the two, it doesnt matter if you were only down 8 cause you would still be down 2...the problem is not converting, not when they did it

Woody? Woody? Coach Woody McCorvey, is that you?

If you are down 9 with two minutes left and having to kick to the opposition, the game is essentially over. The opposition is going to pound the ball and run the clock out leaving no room for error. If it is a one possession game, they will be more aggressive in their play calling leaving more room for a mistake. Have you seen our offense? There is plenty of room for mistakes.

Also, if you are down two possessions as a player with 2 minutes remaining, you feel as if the game is over. All the intensity and momentum of that game was thrown out of the window when they failed on the two point conversion. The approach in a one possession game vrs a two possession game is NIGHT and DAY. It rivals the dumb we see here each and every saturday.

 

[dawgatUSM]

You always always always extend the game. For example... If you're down by 10 in field goal range and it's forth down, you kick the field goal and extend the game. Same in this case. Kick the Extra point and extend the game.