Cox - Simmons- Jones

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Random Tuesday post.

Thoughts on their college careers? Ranking them this way?

1) Simmons
2) Cox
3) Jones


Chris had a good freshman season but didn't quite seem to repeat that his So and Jr years.

Fletcher had a tremendous Jr campaign in 2011 but not so much his Fr and So years.

Jeffrey has pretty much met the 5* expectations. Has been a force on every snap. He is playing with way better talent and more depth along the line and at LB and Secondary.



Cox did have Pernell McPhee in 2010 with KJ Wright. Chris Jones had Preston Smith and Benardrick Mckinney in 2014. Preston didn't seem to be as impactful in 2013.


Simmons has had more impactful players around him and on the 2nd string.


Will Simmons make the impact like Cox and Jones in the NFL? Especially Cox. I think he will.
 

BruceBruce

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I agree with your ranking. Simmons start to finish has been the best. Cox was very good his Soph year and great his Jr year. I disagree with you about Jones Jr year though. He was a monster that year. He consistently graded out great with PFF, I think he just wasn’t as flashy doing it.
 

kired

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That's how I'd rank them. I'm curious how Simmons will do in the NFL. Like you said, he's lived up to the hype and played hard every snap for three years.

With Jones and Cox we could see the potential but didn't see the results for three full seasons. I guess it seemed like they improved throughout their career, and still had room for improvement at the next level (which they have done). Simmons is an elite talent but it feels like he doesn't have as much room to improve... I don't know, time will tell I guess.
 

TheStateUofMS

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1) Simmons 2) Cox and 3) Jones

We all knew Jones had the tools. Just needed a little longer to develop. Didn't have that nasty streak like Simmons and Cox do either.
 

#ShowOff

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Hopefully Simmons surrounds himself with good people at the next level and stays humble and focused.

Knowing he has the tools to have a contract like this one day--- insane $$


Fletcher Cox signed a 6 year, $102,600,000 contract with the Philadelphia Eagles, including a $26,000,000 signing bonus, $63,299,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $17,100,000. In 2018, Cox will earn a base salary of $3,310,000 and a restructure bonus of $8,190,000, while carrying a cap hit of $11,348,000 and a dead cap value of $47,679,000
 

coach66

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I think Simmons is the most dominant D-Lineman I've ever seen for MSU. He is

athletic as hell, has done well in school and stayed out of trouble, extremely hard worker on the field and appears to be a top notch person and
teammate. He has a very high ceiling.

Good thing the bearsharks didn't have their way or he would have never seen the field for us. Kudo's to Strickland for handling the situation correctly.
 

bddawg

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Feb 21, 2018
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Random Tuesday post.

Thoughts on their college careers? Ranking them this way?

1) Simmons
2) Cox
3) Jones


Chris had a good freshman season but didn't quite seem to repeat that his So and Jr years.

Fletcher had a tremendous Jr campaign in 2011 but not so much his Fr and So years.

Jeffrey has pretty much met the 5* expectations. Has been a force on every snap. He is playing with way better talent and more depth along the line and at LB and Secondary.



Cox did have Pernell McPhee in 2010 with KJ Wright. Chris Jones had Preston Smith and Benardrick Mckinney in 2014. Preston didn't seem to be as impactful in 2013.


Simmons has had more impactful players around him and on the 2nd string.


Will Simmons make the impact like Cox and Jones in the NFL? Especially Cox. I think he will.
Jones is a distant third. He isn't nearly as good as the other two. His motor just doesn't run at that level. Physically maybe, but that's it.
 

DoggieDaddy13

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Cox was probably the most dominate. But, he phoned it in on a lot of downs and in entire games. When he wanted to show out -- and he usually did in big games -- he could completely blow up the line of scrimmage.

I go with Simmons in terms of his overall tenure at MSU. He's been a consistent force in every game. He's also proven to be a team leader. Cox never really had to be a team leader. It's not in his personality and we had other leaders on D when he played.

Love what Chris Jones did as a Bulldog too, but I believe Simmons will go down as our best DL. He's going to be a top 5 draft pick... maybe top 3. Hell, he should get Heisman consideration.
 

TheStateUofMS

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^^^^WTF are you talking about? Do we have a rebel here boys????


Simmons is a role model student.
 

Pars

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Simmons > > Cox >>>>>>>>> Smith

Simmons brings IT every single time. Cox was a beast but wasn’t always in killer mode like Simmons is. Smith was by far the softest to me. Great skill just never seemed like an animal to me.

Edit: this should have been Jones. Smith was great jones was soft to me
 
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MSUDawgFan86

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Random Tuesday post.

Thoughts on their college careers? Ranking them this way?

1) Simmons
2) Cox
3) Jones


Chris had a good freshman season but didn't quite seem to repeat that his So and Jr years.

Fletcher had a tremendous Jr campaign in 2011 but not so much his Fr and So years.

Jeffrey has pretty much met the 5* expectations. Has been a force on every snap. He is playing with way better talent and more depth along the line and at LB and Secondary.



Cox did have Pernell McPhee in 2010 with KJ Wright. Chris Jones had Preston Smith and Benardrick Mckinney in 2014. Preston didn't seem to be as impactful in 2013.


Simmons has had more impactful players around him and on the 2nd string.


Will Simmons make the impact like Cox and Jones in the NFL? Especially Cox. I think he will.

I agree with this list. Jones never fully lived up to the hype.
It goes:
1. Simmons
2. Cox
Gap
3. Chris Jones.
 

PreacherDog

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Simmons has had better career. His sophomore season is just behind Cox junior season for best season though.
Sweat has been the most dominate end/edge rusher in my lifetime. Sweat might should make list. I mean 19.5 sacks in less than 2 years.
 

HumpDawgy

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Both Cox and Jones had to beef up when they got here (I believe they both were around 240 lbs coming out of HS). Simmons was already beefed up. He was "ready ready" from day 1.
 

PreacherDog

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Both Cox and Jones had to beef up when they got here (I believe they both were around 240 lbs coming out of HS). Simmons was already beefed up. He was "ready ready" from day 1.

Cox was listed at 275 as a freshman and Jones was 305 as a freshman. Cox got bigger but Jones was massive.
 

HumpDawgy

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Cox was listed at 275 as a freshman and Jones was 305 as a freshman. Cox got bigger but Jones was massive.

Check these links

https://247sports.com/Player/Chris-Jones-21625/high-school-34333/

https://247sports.com/Player/Fletcher-Cox-14283/high-school-11652/


As a senior in HS, Jones was 250 and Cox was 240. They may have beefed up in the offseason, but they both did not play HS at 300 lbs. They were athletic defensive linemen who put on weight, hit the weight room. Simmons came in heavier

https://247sports.com/Player/Jeffery-Simmons-33520/high-school-54104/
 

bddawg

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Both Cox and Jones had to beef up when they got here (I believe they both were around 240 lbs coming out of HS). Simmons was already beefed up. He was "ready ready" from day 1.
Chris was 290 lbs when he got here.
 
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