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RaisingArizona

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Three months even sounds high to me.....I ain't saying this is wrong, but I know we could not have gone 90 days without generating any revenue and if we did go that long, we would be so far behind it would take a few years to claw back and get on top of it.

Do you mind if I ask what industry your former business was in?
 

jflores

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Then, they're tone deaf. Looking at just the medical side, its a monster, but obviously they don't see the even bigger one heading our way.
They either understand Trump for once, or get out of the way. Both sides have tried to express a unified effort thus far, all on the medical side, its slowly shifting out of their arena, to the economic side, they'd best learn, and fast.

The doctor are responsible for the medical side. The economic side isn't their arena. It's up to Trump and the governor's to listen to the various voices and make the decision.

It's why it's hard to be large and in charge in times like these. Trump Cuomo and the like will get tmost of the praise or scorn. They know where the exit is if they can't handle the job.
 

HUSKERFAN66

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Truly good news. I heard a little similar to this last night. Hadn't heard the results yet so this is good news. Also, the hydrochloriquine and azithromycin combo has been reported as between 90/98% treated in 2-6 days. We're heading the right direction folks
 

RaisingArizona

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What good does that accomplish? Seems like vengeance for the sake of vengeance. The guy was just looking out for his sailors.
 

jflores

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Been enjoying the weather but I'm going to ask around with some friends and see if they have an idea what's going on with this.
 

jflores

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This board has been rather tame so far. Breitbart comments pretty entertaining. Turn the country back on...we will not comply...Easter...May first the latest. And on and on.

Entertaining though.
 

HUSKERFAN66

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Bad situation. If you are good enough to command an aircraft carrier you're probably a good soldier. However many VERY elite commanders were forced out under the previous administration for bogus reasons. Enough about that.

But you can not have sensitive communication that reveals your status of a vital piece of military equipment be compromised. Not sure how that happened but that just revealed VERY sensitive information.

If you are a cinema type, think of the movie U571. As a Commander you have to be willing to sacrifice sailors for the mission. Be willing to put soldiers IN harms way. Sorry if that sounds cold, but that's how you win wars
 

jflores

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Bad situation. If you are good enough to command an aircraft carrier you're probably a good soldier. However many VERY elite commanders were forced out under the previous administration for bogus reasons. Enough about that.

But you can not have sensitive communication that reveals your status of a vital piece of military equipment be compromised. Not sure how that happened but that just revealed VERY sensitive information.

If you are a cinema type, think of the movie U571. As a Commander you have to be willing to sacrifice sailors for the mission. Be willing to put soldiers IN harms way. Sorry if that sounds cold, but that's how you win wars

The Chinese have their own Intel. Whether he wrote a letter or not they already knew we parked the carrier in Guam.

But yah how that letter leaked is the mystery of the moment.
 

jflores

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Bad situation. If you are good enough to command an aircraft carrier you're probably a good soldier. However many VERY elite commanders were forced out under the previous administration for bogus reasons. Enough about that.

But you can not have sensitive communication that reveals your status of a vital piece of military equipment be compromised. Not sure how that happened but that just revealed VERY sensitive information.

If you are a cinema type, think of the movie U571. As a Commander you have to be willing to sacrifice sailors for the mission. Be willing to put soldiers IN harms way. Sorry if that sounds cold, but that's how you win wars

The commander was also right. We are not at war and the peacetime recommendation was what he made. If war was on going or imminent he was willing to carry on and lose men. It would serve no purpose now.
 

NorthwoodHusker

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I get that. Another important distinction is those businesses that rent vs. those that own the underlying real estate. If it comes to it the equity in the real estate combined with strong banking relationships and no other debt afford me some options that other businesses wouldn’t have.

This is still going to set me back though. Will expend a considerable amount of my war chest.
Just listening to the white house pc, theres answers/solutions there, or coming as soon as tomorrow
 

NorthwoodHusker

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We have the highest incarceration rate in the world, at best we have inconsistent officer behavior, with brutality being a reality in many higher crime areas. We have strong enforcement procedures that are ineffective and inefficient as our crime rate is also astronomical. You would hope that mass incarceration would equate to low crime numbers. Espousing our virtues as a place of liberty is an oversimplification. A subsection of our society is born with protected freedoms of family, faith, and opportunity. But a large group are not born with these freedoms. I do believe that the inequality in the nation is going to exacerbate the problem. We have millions of undereducated, disconnected people who cannot respond appropriately to such a crisis. They are either non-compliant to the social distancing, or non-compliant and rush the emergency room when they get sick. After this mess we need a strong commitment to making sure every american is maximized as their weakness affects all of us. We are in the habit of taking advantage of the poor and uneducated but in a crisis like this the response is only as good as the weakest link.

Think about a place like Chicago and Detroit...only about 2% of the urban population is proficient on basic standardized tests, millions of people in these cities are functionally illiterate. I will never believe America is a free country when such a thing exists. Some people are free, but that is the case in all dictatorships or totalitarian regimes...there is always a preferred class.

I do agree about the geographic advantages of SK and their homogeneity allows them more success.
Allowing for bad laws only encourages bad behavior . Excluding people from choice in education is a crime. Just like going to the doctor, often a second opinion is needed, not desired, not mandated, needed, same for education.
Theres lists where our eaders have failed us, but ultimately,we are to blame, as we the people insist they lead us.
Better ideas our often squashed through idealism, not reality.
Time to come together, find that low hanging fruit, make it work, and appreciate differing opinions.
 

NorthwoodHusker

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Three months even sounds high to me.....I ain't saying this is wrong, but I know we could not have gone 90 days without generating any revenue and if we did go that long, we would be so far behind it would take a few years to claw back and get on top of it.
Well, 50% is only half, that leaves half that wont make it that long to up to 3 months. Theres grants, tax write offs, low cost loans etc, its there, get on the interweebles, contact the right spots, get that info and the helps.

The trillions were created to expressly not let what happens as you describe it to happen.
 

yort2000

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IF the social distancing continues they'll probably be okay but make no mistake they are stretched beyond belief with staffing problems. The hospitalized patients dying at such a high rate is helping eliminate overcrowding in ICU beds.:( When you have to bring in reefers to store the bodies in, you've got a mess.

Well, I think one of those hospitals with the refrigerated truck only has a capacity of 20 in their morgue.

In Cuomo's presser today, they had more patients released than admitted for whatever their daily period of reporting is for. That was the first day that that has happened.

1,157 hospitalized and 1,292 discharged.
 

NorthwoodHusker

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Well, I think one of those hospitals with the refrigerated truck only has a capacity of 20 in their morgue.

In Cuomo's presser today, they had more patients released than admitted for whatever their daily period of reporting is for. That was the first day that that has happened.
The worst healthy amongst us are the worst hit, this is early spike. Treatments, younger,older healthier folks have made it through a full cycle, 14 days, as opposed to those weaker individuals that wont last 14 days.

It sucks speaking like this, but thats what folks are living through every day, our health care workers, and those afflicted, the patients.
Just remember, those folks going back home? Theres folks still getting up every day, cycle by cycle, til this is finished.
Anyways, still too early to bend the curve
 

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Most small businesses have a three month time before bust, or,50% do.
Just remember that our congress gave a loan to small businesses and a 450 billion handout to large corporations. The 450 billion handout was the only consistent, non negotiable part of the stimulus...I wonder why? I wouldn't want to blame this on one party or another but our prez, both parties, and large corporate lobbyists are all in on it. In theory, the inflation that is coming should hurt the middle class, but the middle class doesn't really exist, and it doesn't have any savings... so...
 

jflores

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Breitbart report says the President is losing a million a day and has already lost a billion in net worth since he's heavily into travel and leisure.

I'm not all that worried about him overlooking some glimmer of hope whether it's a drug somewhere or a potential vaccine in the FDA. I wouldn't sweat it too much people.
 

HUSKERFAN66

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Never said anything about the Chinese.
The Chinese have their own Intel. Whether he wrote a letter or not they already knew we parked the carrier in Guam.

But yah how that letter leaked is the mystery of the moment.
 
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Breitbart report says the President is losing a million a day and has already lost a billion in net worth since he's heavily into travel and leisure.

I'm not all that worried about him overlooking some glimmer of hope whether it's a drug somewhere or a potential vaccine in the FDA. I wouldn't sweat it too much people.

Not sure he ever had a billion.
 

HUSKERFAN66

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The commander was also right. We are not at war and the peacetime recommendation was what he made. If war was on going or imminent he was willing to carry on and lose men. It would serve no purpose now.
How do you know that is what he was thinking? Every ship operates as if they are at war. That's they're mission. If you don't you fail.
 

jflores

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How do you know that is what he was thinking? Every ship operates as if they are at war. That's they're mission. If you don't you fail.

Because I can read.

“This will require a political solution but it is the right thing to do,” Crozier wrote. “We are not at war. Sailors do not need to die. If we do not act now, we are failing to properly take care of our most trusted asset — our Sailors.”

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In his letter to top Navy command, Crozier said if it was operating in wartime, the ship would cope and continue operations and battle the illness as best it could.

“However, we are not at war, and therefore cannot allow a single Sailor to perish as a result of this pandemic unnecessarily,” Crozier wrote. “Decisive action is required now in order to comply with CDC and (Navy) guidance and prevent tragic outcomes.”

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Exclusive-Captain-of-aircraft-carrier-with-15167883.php
 

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Truuuuue, but a good leader delegates and let's them do their job. If they clash or there's questions, let them exchange their views and have the discussion.
A great leader can do both. There are times where it's best to delegate and there are times where a leader needs to micromanage in order to achieve the desired result.
 

jflores

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A great leader can do both. There are times where it's best to delegate and there are times where a leader needs to micromanage in order to achieve the desired result.

Agreed. And if there's a vaccine out there that will save his economy and strengthen his election run and he doesn't intervene to get it out there (like has before for much much much less stakes), he's dumber than the left pegs him for.
 

HUSKERFAN66

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Because I can read.

“This will require a political solution but it is the right thing to do,” Crozier wrote. “We are not at war. Sailors do not need to die. If we do not act now, we are failing to properly take care of our most trusted asset — our Sailors.”

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In his letter to top Navy command, Crozier said if it was operating in wartime, the ship would cope and continue operations and battle the illness as best it could.

“However, we are not at war, and therefore cannot allow a single Sailor to perish as a result of this pandemic unnecessarily,” Crozier wrote. “Decisive action is required now in order to comply with CDC and (Navy) guidance and prevent tragic outcomes.”

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Exclusive-Captain-of-aircraft-carrier-with-15167883.php
You can read what?
 

NorthwoodHusker

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Just remember that our congress gave a loan to small businesses and a 450 billion handout to large corporations. The 450 billion handout was the only consistent, non negotiable part of the stimulus...I wonder why? I wouldn't want to blame this on one party or another but our prez, both parties, and large corporate lobbyists are all in on it. In theory, the inflation that is coming should hurt the middle class, but the middle class doesn't really exist, and it doesn't have any savings... so...
Ummm, did you watch the latest WH pc?
Watch it, all you need to know
 

NorthwoodHusker

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Breitbart report says the President is losing a million a day and has already lost a billion in net worth since he's heavily into travel and leisure.

I'm not all that worried about him overlooking some glimmer of hope whether it's a drug somewhere or a potential vaccine in the FDA. I wouldn't sweat it too much people.
And several in the task force have family on the front lines as nurses and doctors in new york, you might include them too
 

NorthwoodHusker

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Because I can read.

“This will require a political solution but it is the right thing to do,” Crozier wrote. “We are not at war. Sailors do not need to die. If we do not act now, we are failing to properly take care of our most trusted asset — our Sailors.”

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In his letter to top Navy command, Crozier said if it was operating in wartime, the ship would cope and continue operations and battle the illness as best it could.

“However, we are not at war, and therefore cannot allow a single Sailor to perish as a result of this pandemic unnecessarily,” Crozier wrote. “Decisive action is required now in order to comply with CDC and (Navy) guidance and prevent tragic outcomes.”

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Exclusive-Captain-of-aircraft-carrier-with-15167883.php
I don't care what he said in private,period.
If this was leaked, send them to china
 

NorthwoodHusker

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Agreed. And if there's a vaccine out there that will save his economy and strengthen his election run and he doesn't intervene to get it out there (like has before for much much much less stakes), he's dumber than the left pegs him for.
Are you a foreigner? What is this his economy you're talking about?
 
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