What you're failing to recognize is that MANY of those people with underlying health concerns are still productive and in some cases extremely important to their communities. People with diabetes, autoimmune disorders, asthma etc are often Dr.s, nurses, lab techs, pharmacy techs, radiology techs, respiratory therapists...and so on. It isn't like all of the people dying from this are drooling Alzheimer's patients in the nursing home.
China has a problem with overpopulation and feeding their people. Old folks are not a valuable commodity to the communist government.
I am not talking about casting aside freedoms, I never have...but freedom isn't free as they say...it is obvious that our liberties have a side effect...mainly our individualism, which is our most precious commodity, is the same thing causes the individual to selfishly destroy themselves, which in turn puts a massive burden on society and infringes on others freedoms. I pay 6000 a year for health insurance that I rarely use...you know why...because of all of the sick people who need constant expensive treatments that go above and beyond their deductibles...that is just one example of many where liberties infringe on liberties...
The first case in Wuhan was on November 17th...about 5 bus lines away from the wet market, and the the carrier never went close to the wet market. The first cluster started in the wet market because of the conditions. I mean a choir met in LA on March 10th...60 people singing together for 2 hours...45 are infected with the virus even though they didn't hug or shake hands...this thing thrives on close proximately and breathing...
No, the government(tax payers) are footing the bill for new vaccines...the companies that are making this vaccine could have had a semi-functional one done for Sars-1, but why do it if you can't sell it? Fauci is already putting a vaccine in production by paying an exorbitant cost. You have no idea how many great innovations were funded by taxpayers through major universities and then taken by for profit companies and turn into billions. I mean the entire military-industrial complex works in such as a way...how much did our freedom pay for the F-35? 1.5 trillion...did you decide to pay that? I didn't...and am I getting any dividends from its sales to our allies/future enemies? Lockheed Martin makes about 6 billion a year...11% growth...I don't see any of it. Wake up!
I can agree with most of that. Just like you can't legislate away stupid, you can't legislate away fear and still maintain freedom for all. I'm not sure who has a disdain for education but my personal thought is that learning about how to handle the responsibility of freedom and learning sacrifice and service for the greater good are ideals best taught at home. Just like so many issues we face in our society (like the ones you list above), the lack of these ideals are failures in parental obligations.
freedom allows for creative thinking, which will spur the innovation of the vaccine.
Agree. I see very little chance of that ever happening, though. There are plenty of valid, worthwhile social services that serve an important purpose in modern society. Unfortunately, there will never be a consensus for what constitutes valid and responsible vs. what some may feel is someone’s inherent right.
And to my previous post... I didn’t mention military spending, but obviously that’s part of the equation as well. I’m showing my hand here, but I have less issues with military spending than some of the other things I already mentioned. Of course, I understand that that’s an entirely separate conversation. The original point remains, though. After this, it seems, and one would hope, that some financial responsibility would be in order.
Fair point regarding the draft. I was considering volunteers, militia, and the like, but also thinking of civil rights leaders and the people who fought for equality or rights for all. The main point I was making though was that infringing on our individual freedoms should not be taken lightly. Now its not that I think there should be a revolt or pushback against the measures in place currently, they probably are for the greater good (only time will tell I guess), but it just needed to be noted that there are those who took to heart "give me liberty, or give me death" and because of those people, we enjoy the benefits of their actions and those freedoms.
Dr fauci was asked that question last night at the daily briefing. He said it's possible but only if someone gives out a great big achoo sneeze without trying to cover their mouth. Again, he said it could be possible but highly unlikely. Dr said get away from that person immediately
It can travel that far, but being in closer than six feet , your mask becomes inundated,or can become inundated with virus.
Here's the problem,it wont be wuhan virus, it will be wuhan two, or, the same novel attack.
Two birds with one stone, give business to someone else, not ebay or amazon, and someone here has a job.
Polar bears have their bugs, honeybadgers have theres. Nature would never allow them to cross paths.
Sounds good, meanwhile china buys up every narrative, every politician,other nations politicians, and they're creating new weapons, bigger airforces,navies etc.
Putting restrictions on people won't work. It'll become the car you drive, the straws you use, the bags you use at the store,you name it, people still throw crap out their car windows.
Look at creative studies.
Glad to report that my mother-in-law is holding steady. Third day of high fever and she feels like complete ****, but her breathing is OK. Had a conversation with her doctor's office today. It seems like the smart thing to do to have people like her stay home and not risk infecting others or worsening her own situation, unless of course there is a development worthy of going to the ER. There isn't much to do for her unless breathing is impacted. Yes, she has lung pain and is having to sleep sitting up, but she is coherent and not gasping for air, and her coughing is pretty minor (although painful when doing so). I still think we should be testing people to confirm that they have COVID-19 so that (God willing) when they recover and are fever free for 72+ hours without medication, they can help take care of others. I've got my strong opinions just like everyone else on this stuff and enjoy the "banter", but now that it's hitting close to home, I'm stepping away for a bit. Thanks all.
Big thing is helps system, as hubby is at risk, they need outside helps.
