And the disadvantage is that rural hospitals are extremely vulnerable because they are under equipped and under staffed. Many already operate in the red. Even if the virus itself doesn't hit rural areas as hard as big cities, the fallout could have devastating long-term consequences for the rural health system.
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Thing is the numbers we are seeing today are a result of 14+ days ago. Hopefully with people distancing the numbers in 2 weeks take a decline
I've got actual work to do rather than try to get your dumb *** to understand the gravity of this situation.
Is it possible to trade DudsSuds to the UCF board? I would take Mikesi back in a heartbeat over this "'world is ending" BS...
There is a pattern developing here....certain people associated with a certain political side of the isle keep making it sound like the sky is falling. I wonder why? What could their end game possibly be? Is it possible they want to make it seem like it's the worst thing that's ever happened in the hopes that blame can be laid mostly at one persons feet for an event that's coming in November? Or is that a "wild conspiracy theory"?
We're a ways away from worrying about doing serology to ascertain population immunity. Right now we have too much to do trying to take care of sick people whether it's from CV or other issues. I doubt the "mystery flu" was CV. Maybe in late December and early January that would have been possible but not before that. We would have recognized in hindsight the lung lesions radiographically IMO. I think it is likely we had cases here in late very late December that weren't diagnosed.
Good insight. That's why I tagged you as you know a lot about this. This mystery flu I am referencing was happening a lot in the January/February time frame so it makes me curious, but don't have much insight about it. Thanks for all of your info in these threads. Good stuff.
This is a very very bad situation but with the steps that have been taken we'll get through this. It's very ugly in New York right now and their heatlhcare systems are stretched incredibly. A HUGE problem is going to be having enough healthy medical staffers to take care of patients. You take the influenza burden and then add in 10X as many CV patients to that mix and you've got a problem in a given area. The other thing is that just because new cases start to slow that doesn't mean that the healthcare system is out of the woods. This is going to provide terrible strain on our healthcare system and workers for months. No the sky isn't falling but even with the measures we've taken, it will just be a matter of maybe not having a bunch of people die at home in some locations because we couldn't deliver care.
I'm reading much of the same reports as everybody else but I have quite a bit of background education to know what it really means. Dudsnsuds is way over the top and I think he's continuing down that road for political reasons. Even suggesting that he read the LA Times article on this topic from a Nobel prize winning biophysicist didn't slow his roll. Yes this is a terrible deal but the administration is doing what needs to be done. That said, I do fear tremendously for our country because of what this is doing to our economy. People have to eat and the government can't support us all. This isn't going to end when we get past the new case peak around the end of May. I'll be surprised if we're able to resume sporting events this fall in a normal fashion.
I can see it now, any state selling cbd has to stop, cause....cause marijuana if its not legal there.
And some say people who don't know medical shouldn't step up.
At 100% infection rate, 10-20% need greater care. How many cases already that wont make it 100% because they already have it before 100% do?
Let me post Breitbart sources you little dipsh*t.
The Washington Examiner, citing Bloomberg News and the Los Angeles Times, reported Monday that the Obama administration used millions of N95 masks in the fight against the H1N1 virus in 2009, but did not replace them.
Phucking LA Times is your bible. Did you see the Pandemic coming??? Did ya? Where did you pick up your ventilator and test kit in advance of the Pandemic? You're looking back in hindsight like you're some kind of genius.
Now try reading the John Hopkins study. We were as prepared as we could have been considering the dumpster fire we inherited.
The former senior director for counterproliferation and biodefense at the NSC, Tim Morrison said:
"It is true that the Trump administration has seen fit to shrink the NSC staff. But the bloat that occurred under the previous administration clearly needed a correction," he continued.
Morrison explained that "one such move at the NSC was to create the counterproliferation and biodefense directorate, which was the result of consolidating three directorates into one, given the obvious overlap between arms control and nonproliferation, weapons of mass destruction terrorism, and global health and biodefense."
He added, "It is this reorganization that critics have misconstrued or intentionally misrepresented. If anything, the combined directorate was stronger because related expertise could be commingled."
You're such a dumbphuck. Disingenuous...a fake.Morrison explained that "one such move at the NSC was to create the counterproliferation and biodefense directorate, which was the result of consolidating three directorates into one, given the obvious overlap between arms control and nonproliferation, weapons of mass destruction terrorism, and global health and biodefense."
He added, "It is this reorganization that critics have misconstrued or intentionally misrepresented. If anything, the combined directorate was stronger because related expertise could be commingled."
Mixing typical flu with wuhan wont work.
Just look at typical seasonal flu periods, the typical flus are dying out.
Ones would say that these cases were spread out over time.
Not sure what the stats show
Right now Beadle county South Dakota has11 positive cases. They have confirmed community spread. The county's population is just over 17K. IF they double cases every couple of days like other places have and do it for 2 weeks, that could amount easily to over 300 hundred cases. The county seat Huron's population is I think around 11k.
Now we've got COVID-19 in an assisted living complex in Blair. Things are getting real in our area.
Nebraska is not Italy or New York City.
Washington State had several severe outbreaks in Nursing Homes a few weeks back. Their curve has since been flattening. There is no serious person who believes Nebraska will have hundreds of thousands of cases after the social distancing measures that have been taken.
Washington State had several severe outbreaks in Nursing Homes a few weeks back. Their curve has since been flattening. There is no serious person who believes Nebraska will have hundreds of thousands of cases after the social distancing measures that have been taken.
The typical flus are not "dying out". Flu is still going strong ironically the social distancing thing is going to help that deal immensely as well. The nursing home in my area was already on lockdown before the CV because of influenza. I have a friend diagnosed with influenza B 2 weeks ago after babysitting his grandkids. He's got a secondary bacterial pneumonia to boot but so far has avoided the hospital. It helps that a good friend of his is a pulmonologist.
I honestly do not remember a single thing you've post
I liked the information in here, I would have preferred a little less flame throwing though...not that anyone would care what I prefer, I get that...but subtle points wrapped with clever condescension work really well to.
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Your links are garbage too, just on the other side. Unbelievable
I always was under the impression, typical flu season dies out in April.
If the wuhan is also typical, besides the typical flu, hopefully the wuhan will follow suit.
If the wuhan is also typical, besides the typical flu, hopefully the wuhan will follow suit.
99.99%+ of the population will survive.
Similar to your odds of living while driving.
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As I understand it from Trump's speech the other day...Nebraska is an exemplar that is out performing the curve.
He failed to mention though that Nebraska's school year is essentially over, same as NYC or Seattle even though its a wildy red state not prone to kow-towing to the libs and the fear-mongering. I believe they are also doing the minimal essential business thing.
Maryland, blue as it is, has a Republican governor, and has done the same thing even though we aren't getting blasted with cases yet.
Though I dare say "libs" doesn't mean what it used too. Wasn't 10 years ago we fought about the $800 billion dollar bailout and reasonably clear battle lines were drawn. This time we had a you-know-what measuring contest to see who could hand out the biggest bailout the fastest.
We're all libs now bro. #SixTrillion #MAGA
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If this were poker, Trump has relatively few outs. He doesn't have a bluff play, the virus doesn't care what he says.
If he gets lucky, he turns off Federal restrictions in a couple weeks, tells peeps to spend money, and hope things don't flare up medically. That's his out.
If they do, he's cooked. Edit: (The line here is narrow, he's on defense...Currently 48 states in the Union aren't on fire right now, if ANY of them get on fire, bad juju vis a vis his judgement to relax restrictions).
More likely he gets into Twitter battles with the governors. He'll reverse what little Federal restrictions there are, but a good many governors will be unwilling or unable to do so and its likely cases will still be rising in the USA anyway. Not going to be a good optic for him to attempt to turn on the economy, and with folks still in state lock down it doesn't really come back anyway AND we still have the virus issue.
Even if the economy rebounds by half (one parent goes back to work, one stays home with the kids who aren't in school this year, or some combination thereof), expected GDP loss is around 20%, a loss of 10% still isn't a win for him.
If he gets lucky, he turns off Federal restrictions in a couple weeks, tells peeps to spend money, and hope things don't flare up medically. That's his out.
If they do, he's cooked. Edit: (The line here is narrow, he's on defense...Currently 48 states in the Union aren't on fire right now, if ANY of them get on fire, bad juju vis a vis his judgement to relax restrictions).
More likely he gets into Twitter battles with the governors. He'll reverse what little Federal restrictions there are, but a good many governors will be unwilling or unable to do so and its likely cases will still be rising in the USA anyway. Not going to be a good optic for him to attempt to turn on the economy, and with folks still in state lock down it doesn't really come back anyway AND we still have the virus issue.
Even if the economy rebounds by half (one parent goes back to work, one stays home with the kids who aren't in school this year, or some combination thereof), expected GDP loss is around 20%, a loss of 10% still isn't a win for him.
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I read the other day, this might only be the beginning of a bailout as well. American's make roughly a trillion a month in income, so if this thing does drag out three or four months, there's potentially a few more trillion dollars in bailouts coming, plus whatever the Fed does on top of that. We could probably be in the $15 trillion dollar ball park for combined governmental response if it doesn't flame out.
Take note that the Pentagon said they are planning on operating in this degraded state for 3 months, whatever else you want to hype coming out of the President's press conferences.
Take note that the Pentagon said they are planning on operating in this degraded state for 3 months, whatever else you want to hype coming out of the President's press conferences.
Eh I don't know. Biden seems to get worse by the day. I can't believe that dude still goes on TV, and it is starting to get really bad.. I think it is a little more than old age with the guy at this point.
A little reading for the warm weather folks.
https://ccdd.hsph.harvard.edu/will-covid-19-go-away-on-its-own-in-warmer-weather/
Have an optimistic outlook, but don't bank on it.
https://ccdd.hsph.harvard.edu/will-covid-19-go-away-on-its-own-in-warmer-weather/
Have an optimistic outlook, but don't bank on it.
I'm not a Biden fan, although of that lot he's the most moderate.
It almost doesn't matter who The Donald is running against, if his governmental response doesn't pan out like he says it will, they could run a potato and potentially win.
We have seen "anyone but" elections before. 2016 comes to mind. Trump's goal is to keep 2020 from becoming "anyone but The Donald" type of election.
He seems hell bent on putting it all on black on April 12.
For someone who is not scared of this, you're inside posting on message boards a lot
Lousianna is on fire, east coast,its getting there. Illinois, and Cali hasn't exploded yet.
I've been saying this for some time. Corona viruses can withstand a lot and we'll have reservoirs of virus in asymptomatic carriers walking around all summer. There will outbreaks that happen after weddings, funerals, etc all summer long IF we stop the social distancing deal.
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