Could TSUN be expelled from the NCAA?

[msu84grad]

Is it possible that the actions taken by the Confederates be considered so detrimental to the way the NCAA is running college athletics that they might consider expelling UM from the NCAA? Is there any precedent towards expelling a school? After all, this is a voluntary organization and where is the line about actions taken by the university in their athletic programs?

My thought on this is... in front of the COI the Confederates are told that if they or the "supporters" wish to take the organization to court over this matter, outside the procedures agreed to by the membership previously, the NCAA will consider that a breach of conduct by a member (who is part of the organization and voluntarily agreed to follow the rules), and force them out. Of course, expulsion would only result by a vote of the Association presidents, and I doubt any of them would do so... unless this is more dangerous to allow this flaunting of the rules...

 

[tatedog]

No way it would get that far even in the most fantastic of scenarios. Somebody from the NCAA would sit down with somebody from Ole Miss and tell them to get their **** together way before it got to that. I doubt the NCAA is concerned about any lawsuits since so far, the only one filed is beyond laughable.

 

[Xenomorph]

I would have gone with..

...Could the asteroid from the movie Armageddon hit the grove?

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

No.

If Baylor is still in the NCAA after the **** that program has been involved in, then Ole Miss will get to stay in the NCAA. Ole Miss has flagrantly violated rules (and rightfully deserves any kind of punishment the NCAA dishes out against them as a school and individual coaches), but they really haven't done anything super criminal (other than drugs and maybe tax evasion kind of ****).

They'll get sent down to 0 scholarships and no player visits before they get booted. Or put under enough sanctions they have to drop down to division 2 or 3. But even those are not going to happen.

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

Even if they did we would all have to endure them talking about how much better the NAIA is

 

[Wizard.sixpack]

No way it would get that far even in the most fantastic of scenarios. Somebody from the NCAA would sit down with somebody from Ole Miss and tell them to get their **** together way before it got to that. I doubt the NCAA is concerned about any lawsuits since so far, the only one filed is beyond laughable.

I agree it won't get to that point but I am sure someone has told them to get their **** together but for a group that thinks they have done no wrong, that won't get very far. I think the denial and hanging on to Freeze is going to be the main reason they get hit so hard.

 

[PineGroveBully]

Not before they sue the NCAAs arse from here to Haiti

They'll tue the day they try

 

[BossDawg78]

...Could the asteroid from the movie Armageddon hit the grove?

Would never happen. UM, Archie and Freeze would hire Ben Affleck to quickly assemble a crack team of pompous badasses to fly to the asteroid and threaten it with a lawsuit before it ever had a chance to get near the Grove. It would be a glorious scenario that would be made into a movie.

 

[MSUDAWGFAN]

No.

If Baylor is still in the NCAA after the **** that program has been involved in, then Ole Miss will get to stay in the NCAA. Ole Miss has flagrantly violated rules (and rightfully deserves any kind of punishment the NCAA dishes out against them as a school and individual coaches), but they really haven't done anything super criminal (other than drugs and maybe tax evasion kind of ****).

They'll get sent down to 0 scholarships and no player visits before they get booted. Or put under enough sanctions they have to drop down to division 2 or 3. But even those are not going to happen.

Don't forget about Penn State. I'm not sure which one was worse, but if neither one got kicked out, cheating ain't gonna get you kicked out either.

 

[KurtRambis4]

No.

The SEC won't allow that.

 

[codeDawg]

Something that could happen is getting knocked down to division 2. That would be a way to give the death penalty without shutting down the program.

 

[mount lefroy]

Something that could happen is getting knocked down to division 2. That would be a way to give the death penalty without shutting down the program.

What do you have against division 2?

 

[codeDawg]

What do you have against division 2?

Absolutely nothing, but it's pretty hard to recruit and compete in the SEC from down there.

 

[Shmuley]

Ole Miss: The Grand Valley State of the South.

 

[codeDawg]

Ole Miss: The Grand Valley State of the South.

The more I think of it, the more I think this is the most fitting penalty for them. It allows the students, school and alumni to continue to have a program, but one where the permissible benefits are limited and the incentive to provide impermissible benefits is considerably less. Let's allow UM to re-learn the meaning of student athlete.

 

[josebrown]

The more I think of it, the more I think this is the most fitting penalty for them. It allows the students, school and alumni to continue to have a program, but one where the permissible benefits are limited and the incentive to provide impermissible benefits is considerably less. Let's allow UM to re-learn the meaning of student athlete.

they could get Col. Reb back, their flags back, Dixie back and most importantly they could get their sticks back. Just explain it to them that way, and I bet they self-impose a move to NAIA.***

 

[thatsbaseball]

I'm afraid there's a better chance they'll get under-punished than over-punished. I've watched the NCAA for a lot of years and very seldom do they "get it right". What's "right" ? IMO 3 yr bowl ban, 5 yr probation, and 50 schollies over the 5 yrs, recruiting restrictions, show causes and dis-associations where appropriate. I`ll be shocked if it reaches this level.

 

[Dawg1976]

Probably more like 30 schollies and a 2 year bowl ban. S/b more.....but have my doubts the Ncaa has the balls to do it.

 

[tatedog]

Something tells me the NCAA is going to extract their pound of flesh more from individuals than the actual university, which will be at the same time appropriate and disappointing.

 

[tatedog]

Ole Miss: The Grand Valley State of the South.

Does this mean ESPN will have to start confusing them with Mississippi Valley State instead of us?

 

[Dogariffic]

The academic ACT stuff sets tsun apart from other cheating lately....I am hoping something comes from that even though the only reported evidence is several years old.
But if Louisville did not get a show cause for the prostitution stuff I am not sure Freeze gets one. Do I think he should.....yes....
The tsun person who really needs to be on the hot seat is the AD.
So many teams on probation at the same time!

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

The most damaging part of this long term will be that the recruiting system OM has had in place for decades has been exposed and 14 or so boosters are going to be disassociated. They can no longer do the only thing they did well

 

[thatsbaseball]

In the end it will still/always be about risk-reward. Ball is firmly in the NCAA's court.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

I thought of Baylor because they had rape AND murder

 

[thekimmer]

Could they? Well sure it is possible but will they? Not likely at all.

I'd put the chances of us winning a NC in football and basketball this year as a more likely event than mississippi getting kicked out of the NCAA.

 

[thekimmer]

True. It's like any other illegal activity.....

In the end it will still/always be about risk-reward. Ball is firmly in the NCAA's court.

The penalty structure for cheating in football is not in-line with the risk-reward. Cheating at some level is ubiquitous in CFB. This would not be true unless the reward vastly outweighed the risk. The ncaa could put a stop to cheating if they wanted. The NCAA has the tool in hand to do it but lost their nerve after using it just once. A credible threat of getting the death penalty would eventually put a screeching halt to cheating once four or five programs got shut down for a couple of years. The word was that the NCAA 'unofficially' decided not to use the DP again after they saw how devastating it was to SMU. I think that is a pile of BS. I think what was really behind the NCAA stopping giving out the DP was the fact that if anybody ever deserved it, bama did back around 1999-2000 but the NCAA did not have the stones to pull that trigger and covered themselves with an excuse that dissuaded them from ever using it on anybody else.