Could Duke be next??
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I'm sorry but I have to disagree. That sounds just like a UL or Duke fan saying..... "well, look how Cal left UMass and Memphis. So, he must be cheating at UK." Big difference in OU basketball and Duke basketball. Just like there is a big difference in UMass basketball and UK basketball. You really think Cal was squeaky clean at UMass and Memphis? But he doesn't have to do that **** here. I doubt Duke has to do anything either. I've never ever said that Capel or Duke is clean but I'm not buying into the fan BS just to criticize Duke and their coaches. If you know something, report it. The rest is just hearsay and BS. I refuse to act like lil brother fans and Pukies.
I respect your opinion and we've gone back and forth a lot on here in the past. Just know I respect what you have to say.
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Thomas put down 30K on some jewelry then wouldn't talk to the NCAA about it.
If the money was clean, shouldn't have been much trouble to clear it up. But since it's Duke, he doesn't have to say a thing and there's no trouble.
I doubt K or the staff gave him the money. But I have little doubt that he should have been ineligible due to the source of the money.
Point is it took a recruit of his caliber months to clear.
Bagley, consensus #1 with academic questions, was cleared in days.
I agree 100% with you. I never said the money he had was clean. I just said that there are many avenues for players to get money. Just cause he got money doesn't make Coach K and his staff dirty. They very well could be as dirty as a $2 *****, I have no idea. My point was just that a player taking money doesn't automatically make the school or the staff dirty. That's all I was saying.
Token attention was given to Bagley? UK offered him a scholarship to play basketball...that is not simply token attention my friend. I cannot speak to Duval but I'm pretty sure Cal backed off of Parker because he knew he wasn't getting him in the end, not because anything shady was going on with him.
Cal knew Bagley would never be eligible at UK skipping his senior year.
By the way- what do we have to do to get all you bandwagon Duke geeks out of here? Every day I have to put another five of you on ignore. Go home.
No. You just dont understand what youre talking about. You made a poor attempt at a point. I refuted it. Now you say i just dont understand, because i dont see it your way.
No. Youre just wrong.
Bagley was given preferential treatment as evidenced by his ultra expedited clearance. Thats a fact. The only issue is the illegal exchange of money or something else in return for that result.
LMAO! Ok, whatever. I'll say it one more time since you keep saying everything is fact. You have no idea what is fact, it's just your opinion. It's fine that you have that opinion, you're completely entitled to your opinion. But it's just that, an opinion. You may be 100% correct but we just don't know that for a fact. Also, that would make the NCAA dirty and Duke just lucky. Do I believe Duke gets beneficial treatment from the NCAA? Probably but I can't prove it and it's just my opinion. But I'm not claiming that it's fact or that I know I'm right cause I can't prove anything. If I could, I'd be the 1st in line to turn Ratface in. That my point. That's all. I just refuse to act like other fan bases that cry and whine about us.
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Unfortunately, Cal is "dirty" because of the exact same thing (and a kid who may not have taken his SATs, like Cal is supposed to sit-in the testing room with him).
And that has hung over him and Kentucky ever since. It's affected his image and his recruiting, as coaches certainly use it against him.
Either K and Cal are both dirty, or they both aren't. And that 2010 title should effectively be removed
I said posts ago that my conclusion that ncaa was part of this conspiracy was not fact.
And that would be just fine if it was a NCAA issue, but this is a FBI investigation last I checked. If there is some bad juju there I am sure the FBI will find it. Personally, I won't be happy, but if Duke is in the wrong they should be punished.
I am hopefully confident that Duke will be OK at the end of this investigation. I am sure most of the guys here think the same for UK.
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Only thing I disagree with is your first sentence . Honestly , nothing would surprise me .
If I missed that then I apologize. In all honesty, it would have to be the NCAA that was dirty if this is indeed true, which it very well may be. Duke would just be the beneficiary and lucky but it would be the NCAA that broke rules to get him eligible. That's the bad thing with the NCAA. They don't answer to anyone and are never held accountable for their inconsistencies and down right mind boggling decisions. It's really sad that this is the governing body over college sports. I can definitely agree with the point that the NCAA is a POS organization.
Duke won't be next,or anytime after next,they have skated thru more scandalous issues than you can count and most have been well documented.The big unanswered question is how do they do it or why the NCAA has looked the other way for years?
K is a foul mouthed,ref intimidating crybaby.He presents one way in interviews and in front of the media and another during games and in what he teaches or allows players to do(flopping,tripping and head jerks)Why does everyone seem to be o k with the whole Duke fake persona
The latest twist at Duke is to get a kid reclassified and cleared in a weeks time,let's forget about the cash,jewelry,covered up sexual assault,tripping etc,etc.They find out they can get Bagley and boom he is there ready to go,never mind Duvall who was questionable to get in school anywhere let alone Duke.There are rules for Duke and UNC then there are rules for everyone else and there are rules especially for Cal and UK.That is the way it works and the way it has worked for years.Don't kid yourself the only thing Duke may be next in line for is the UNC treatment to get them a national championship.Who knows the NCAA may be so mad at South Carolina for beating Duke last year that they (USC) end up on probation.
K is a foul mouthed,ref intimidating crybaby.He presents one way in interviews and in front of the media and another during games and in what he teaches or allows players to do(flopping,tripping and head jerks)Why does everyone seem to be o k with the whole Duke fake persona
The latest twist at Duke is to get a kid reclassified and cleared in a weeks time,let's forget about the cash,jewelry,covered up sexual assault,tripping etc,etc.They find out they can get Bagley and boom he is there ready to go,never mind Duvall who was questionable to get in school anywhere let alone Duke.There are rules for Duke and UNC then there are rules for everyone else and there are rules especially for Cal and UK.That is the way it works and the way it has worked for years.Don't kid yourself the only thing Duke may be next in line for is the UNC treatment to get them a national championship.Who knows the NCAA may be so mad at South Carolina for beating Duke last year that they (USC) end up on probation.
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You will agree that according to the NCAA, strict liability is the standard, yes? I mean if we're going to get into it, let's be honest.
Cal was basically convicted by the NCAA due to strict liability. It doesn't matter what coach K knew or didn't know. He's guilty.
The entire season should be gone and K's name should be linked to it.
The NCAA is well aware of the amateur issues they face. Duke is their golden boy "Non Ivy League, Ivy League program. Essentially they like the image Duke presents. Clean, smart, Ivy leaguers in the ACC who control the sport.
The also enjoy the storyline of K. He is an untouchable, just like Smith, just like Wooden.
The way they've built the narrative, if coach K is cheating the entire system is lost. They depend on him.
Umass and Memphis were punished. Duke wasn't. If both dirty, when does this happen? If both clean, why did they get punished? pretty flawed conclusion.
One thing is for sure, when Duke is involved things are not handled the same way or in the same time frame. So people are going to question why?
Are they also selling that once they get to the NBA they will fizzle out and end up on the far end of the bench? That is what is happening with most of their one and dones.
That's essentially what I'm saying. Speaking strictly on Umass, it was the same thing. Cal/Umass get tarnished, forever.. Duke doesn't.
There were differences. Some would say insignificant but they were pretty big differences. I don't think Duke would have much to gripe about if they got punished.
Then maybe they should be talking to the other OAD's at Duke that are "ridding" the bench.
It starts with his "set for life" pitch to recruits. They buy into his ******** then when he has them on campus teaches them to flop, ***** and moan, etc. Amile Jefferson seemed to play hard and not complain to much, but with the season and his career coming to an end, all the preferential treatment he had been given his 4 years at Duke came to an end in that tournament game against South Carolina.
I have never seen a team complain about every call like puke did in that game.
He builds them up with that elitist attitude and it does not serve them well in the real world.
It is probably why so many puke players fail in the league. They are taught they will be given everything. Cal was awesome last year with the "we don't give our players fish, we teach them to fish and get their own."
I am sure blubber bastard capel was behind the tweet sent out when they got bolden.
Can't wait for that rat to crawl off and be gone, and for someone to flush capel down the toilet.
So damn phony.
I have never seen a team complain about every call like puke did in that game.
He builds them up with that elitist attitude and it does not serve them well in the real world.
It is probably why so many puke players fail in the league. They are taught they will be given everything. Cal was awesome last year with the "we don't give our players fish, we teach them to fish and get their own."
I am sure blubber bastard capel was behind the tweet sent out when they got bolden.
Can't wait for that rat to crawl off and be gone, and for someone to flush capel down the toilet.
So damn phony.