The reason is almost irrelevant unless someone in the family died. He is the leader of the team, the players look up to him..If Coach did not discipline him , he would have lost the respect of the rest of the team. You keep arguing this point but how about Corey's play tonite which was atrocious when he did come in the game until he was hurt . I am disappointed in his immaturity but I am doubly disappointed in his play tonite. Mike Williams did everything in his power to get us to down 9 with the ball and if Corey stepped up, with scoring , assisting, or playing defense focusing properly, we likely bring this game to the wire . I finally got to see our team try to shoot the ball in rhythm and hit some threes and play mostly outstanding defense for that second half stretch and hoping Corey will be a big part of that in the future.
Corey Not Starting
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Why???? It's less time to get to Tampa airport from Lakeland then to New Brunswick from RandolphCorey or the uncle
Relying on your dad in Randolph NJ is different than your friend from Lakeland FLA.
Stop the excuses.
He has a responsibility to make it back on time. Should have planned an earlier flight in case there were delays.
Everyone needs to stop talking and harping on the kid until people find out the whole story, if they ever do. That's all I'm gonna say. Support our players, the coaches do what they have to do and the team will be better for it. And they read these boards. 11-3 still great things going on On the Banks ... that was arguably our toughest B1G game and we were only down 9 with 7:45 on the clock in the game, on the road. Let's see how that translates to the teams that aren't as tough and talented as Wisconsin
It's called discipline and you are held accountable for you actions...you are an adult and need to be treated as one. 12 or 13 other team members were let down. If it was an excusable absence he would not have been sitting on the bench
He is not the leader of the team (Freeman). He's the most talented player. It is no coincidence that Williams did not get any good looks in the first ten minutes of the game or the last 6. Corey did not play well, but then again, he didn't play the first ten minutes. It's hard to expect great production from a player in a new role for the first time. But I think he did other things.
I understand where you're coming from. But I don't think a ten minute time out gets that point across.
And i don't think Coach would let him off with just a ten minute penalty if Corey purposefully missed a flight and practice. Thats why I think coach doesn't know what happened/didnt buy coreys excuse. If was an accident I don't think any punishment should be given. If I'm Corey's teammate and he tells me "**** man we left way late and just missed the flight" while were at SHOOT AROUND AND PREGAME WALK THROUGHS I would hope he's starting.
Agree to disagree.
Regardless of the benching, this is year two that this same exact thing has happened with him, where's the maturity? Where's his support system? Where's the apology to the team and fans?
It is absolutely comical for him to even think he can leave school and play professionally. He'd get lost on his way to the airport to even sign an over seas contract.
It is absolutely comical for him to even think he can leave school and play professionally. He'd get lost on his way to the airport to even sign an over seas contract.
You do know that there are less fortunate kids that don't have 3 SUVs in the household. Some people have to relay on others and they may not be reliable....even if you ask them to pick you up 3 hours before a flight.
Keep in mind that we are talking about a 19 or 20 year old raising a kid, so I'm sure he is showing a level of responsibility that no one on this board criticizing him as immature ever had to deal with at that age.
Bottom line...you don't know the facts so stop judging.
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Your kidding right...you have enough money for quick trip home I'm sure you have enough to get to airport. Don't want to beat dead horse so I will end my involvment here. Also do not want to hammer CS. JuSt would like to see a complete commitment to the team.. Nobody is above the team period
Some years ago, then-Rutgers coach Gary Waters flew out to the Midwest to be honored at Kent State. A freak snowstorm hit, and he was stranded, unable to get back to coach Rutgers in a scheduled game. Then-AD Bob Mulcahy wanted to fire him for cause, voiding his contract. Waters' lawyers snickered, and he was paid off. Fred Hill Jr, Walters' assistant and Mulcahy's coach in waiting, coached RU in the game, which Rutgers won, igniting a firestorm on the RU basketball board to immediately install Hill as coach, based on his supposed recruiting prowess. FHJ got the job at the end of the year and the rest is unfortunately history.
We don't know why Corey Sanders missed the flight, and probably never will. Maybe there was some emergency, maybe a breakdown in scheduled arrangements--or maybe he started off too late. So he didn't start. Would he have sat if there had been some extenuating circumstance (like Gary Waters being stranded by an unexpected storm)? Who knows? But some of the comments have been a little churlish. He has had problems, and this isn't the year he envisioned that would prepare him for the NBA. He did not play well tonight, and he often looks out of control in his moves, but that has nothing to do with him as a person. So don't make it personal based solely on speculation. Not starting Corey Sanders did not cost Rutgers the basketball game. And we can only hope our players stay away from this board. As our record dips toward .500, there is going to be a lot of blaming and finger pointing from those whose lofty expectations are not met.
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We don't know why Corey Sanders missed the flight, and probably never will. Maybe there was some emergency, maybe a breakdown in scheduled arrangements--or maybe he started off too late. So he didn't start. Would he have sat if there had been some extenuating circumstance (like Gary Waters being stranded by an unexpected storm)? Who knows? But some of the comments have been a little churlish. He has had problems, and this isn't the year he envisioned that would prepare him for the NBA. He did not play well tonight, and he often looks out of control in his moves, but that has nothing to do with him as a person. So don't make it personal based solely on speculation. Not starting Corey Sanders did not cost Rutgers the basketball game. And we can only hope our players stay away from this board. As our record dips toward .500, there is going to be a lot of blaming and finger pointing from those whose lofty expectations are not met.
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Not sure what relevance the Gary Waters situation has to do with anything but for the record the storm was not "unexpected". It was a gamble that Gary was willing to take and that did not sit well with people around here. The fact that Bob Mulcahy didn't know what he was doing and Fred Hill was a disaster doesn't get Gary off the hook. A lot of people saw it as a sign that he wasn't comfortable here and was looking for an escape back to the Midwest. Gary missing the game was really inexcusable.
Revising my statement on the key to the season is no longer how we defend the three...but how Corey progresses ...on and off the court
I kind of agree with Sojo here. Corey played 23 minutes. He averages 29. The only reason he didn't play 29 was because he got hurt. So what was the punishment? He played the same minutes he always plays. Just that he didn't start? Not starting but playing the same minutes you always do is a dumb punishment. if u are going to play him the sameness minutes then you don't think it was that big of a deal. Make him run laps. Carry the equipment.
So everyone knows, Pikiell's quote in the postgame press conference was understanding. "We all know it's tough to travel around the holidays" but then said "If you miss practice, you don't start. That's the rule."
Fair enough. Would have liked to see him at first sub instead of Dadika at 3 minutes in if that's the case. No need to spot Wisconsin 9 points.
On to the next one.
There are two issues regarding Sanders .One is missing practice and the others is his performance during the game.The missing of layups and committing turnovers has made his offensive game worse than last season where he was one of the best freshmen in the B1G.Fans aren't mind readers as to the reasons why the performance has regressed.
As to missing practice each player is responsible for following the rules established by the coaching staff. .Travel from out of state puts more responsibility on the player to arrange his travel schedule with enough time to allow for flying delays.
As to missing practice each player is responsible for following the rules established by the coaching staff. .Travel from out of state puts more responsibility on the player to arrange his travel schedule with enough time to allow for flying delays.
How is the NBA and Cory used in the same sentence? No NBA team would have him on their roster at this point. Cory is light yrs away. He has nba speed thats it! Hey i hope and root for him to improve and have a shot but no way is he nba material today. He is our best athlete and we need his offense but he has work to do. He will need all 4 yrs of good coaching to have a chance.
Exactly, TMCB. Corey has seemed to regress, perhaps because more is expected of him than just scoring. Rooting for the light bulb to go on. Remember watching Alan Iverson on TV when he played at Georgetown--spent my working life in the DC area. He always played at warp speed, which often took him out of control. Corey needs to follow Wooden's old nostrum, Be quick but don't hurry.
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this thread would be 10 posts if the two posters, mainly just one wouldnt keep up with their childish antics in thread.
the other players were able to get back in time, so yes Corey should be able to, those are the rules.
Pikiell is the coach. He sets the discipline. Quit the bitching. The outcome of the game did not change. Corey played poorly all game long and his poor decision on that last play gave him an injury. RU wasnt going to beat Wisconsin last night. Move on
the other players were able to get back in time, so yes Corey should be able to, those are the rules.
Pikiell is the coach. He sets the discipline. Quit the bitching. The outcome of the game did not change. Corey played poorly all game long and his poor decision on that last play gave him an injury. RU wasnt going to beat Wisconsin last night. Move on
That's because it never happened. Looks like someone here made it up to support their view that this was some kind of pattern of irresponsible and selfish behavior. It was just another part of the Rush to Judgement without facts....but, in this case they just made up stuff.
You are really ridiculous . No one ever disputed the need for this minor punishment for missing practice....certainly not me.
When did pointing out that rushing to judgment is wrong and is always wrong. But guys like you love doing it without Facts. This entire thread was a Sanders bashing thread for missing a flight by people who don't know what happened and YES, the reason does matter.
He lost the ball going up. Expected a nice finish or an easy weakside put back on that play. In fact a similar play was the only time Gettys was noticeable on the offensive end for anything other than not finding the ball on pick and roll.
I do think both Corey and Nigel need to kick out off the drive more. But I do notice we don't have guys standing in the corners often enough in those situations.
Unless all of the flights were cancelled. There is no excuse. Flat tire, friend was late, whatever. This ain't high school. You either show up on time or get punished. Simple equation.
And I have taken hundreds of flights. Never missed one.
And I have taken hundreds of flights. Never missed one.
Missed or "Missed" ....lol The fact that he considered leaving, I'll go with "missed".
because of Sojo continuing to post about this as if it was a huge issue, thats why it appears posters are ganging up on Sanders. They are not. He broke team rules, he was suspended. And I dont see the need for you to keep parsing reasons or words. If Pikiell felt his explanation excused him being late then he would not have suspended him
This entire thread is a disgrace ... he was punished that's enough, time to move on !!! Support our guys they are fighting their butts off
If my eight year old or any of his team mates are late, they sit, and
as far as I know none of them drive their own cars. Rules are rules,
Flood made all kinds of excuses for his players and look where it
go him. I don't know where all the conflict is coming from, 10 min is
nothing it could have been worse. He needs to take responsibility,
for this,in my opinion, because I see several instances where he is
lacking maturity. I hope he takes this as his fault and next time;
does takes whatever measures neccesary to be own time. Believe
me he had options.
as far as I know none of them drive their own cars. Rules are rules,
Flood made all kinds of excuses for his players and look where it
go him. I don't know where all the conflict is coming from, 10 min is
nothing it could have been worse. He needs to take responsibility,
for this,in my opinion, because I see several instances where he is
lacking maturity. I hope he takes this as his fault and next time;
does takes whatever measures neccesary to be own time. Believe
me he had options.