CONSIDER THIS, if you are current OM player/recruit....
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What's interesting to me is many of those players have known what was going on since they received the benefits of the OM recruiting process. If just one had seen the writing on the wall, he could have asked for immunity and a free transfer and spilled the beans. I guess the square was just too much to give up.
Given the nature of the allegations, particularly the sure-fire ones, I absolutely expect the NCAA to allow transfers without penalty (ala Penn State.)
I tend to agree with patdog on this. I don't think there will be mass transfers. The timing of sanctions will hinder that. It won't matter, though, because regular attrition will kick that *** hard and quickly, with the scholarship losses.
That was part of their strategy. Point blame elsewhere, lie, and play off violations until after the season starts. Then hope for only one more bowl ban tacked on. By September it's too late to lose anyone this season and hope that losing one only one more year won't lead to a mass exodus. Penalties announced this summer and they'd be scrambling now trying to get enough walk ons to field a 2 deep.
Yeah. They may have a decent season this fall, but they're going to be a shell of a Division I football program for the next 4-5 years before they can even think about starting to recover, with or without transfers.
I wouldn't expect much roster movement. As long as the monthly payments are quietly maintained as promised, why would you go somewhere else and play for free?
They're not going to have a decent season at all. New, unproven head coach. New, unproven coordinators. Terrible defense. Nothing to play for. NCAA sanctions hitting at some point during the season.
It's going to get ugly THIS fall.
It definitely could get VERY ugly this fall. But they do have some talent at QB and receiver. If they stay together and fight hard, they might win 6 games. But one of the problems with recruiting the kind of players they do it those guys tend to not stay together and fight hard when times are tough.
depth is going to be a serious problem in 2019. They may get into a serious injury situation because of it.
Why do you think Seniors wouldn't have to sit out? I'm pretty sure the free transfer is not just automatic based on whether you can go to a bowl. Any free transfer is going to occur after the punishment is handed down.
And everybody keeps saying that only those players who won't be eligible to play in a bowl would be allowed to transfer, but nobody to my knowledge has pointed to any bylaw stating taht. I don't think just because that is the practice in the past that it's a good guide here. If it's within their discretion, I could easily see the COI letting anybody transfer because they feel like UM lied to recruits, even if they don't openly state that.
It sure is a good thing OM finished that stadium expansion in time for all this. Recruits love playing in cavernous empty stadiums.
I'm with
you. I don't understand why everyone will think they will be so good. They'll have a couple of good players on offense, but unless they brought in 6-8 All-SEC defensive players that I'm unaware, they should suck again.
you. I don't understand why everyone will think they will be so good. They'll have a couple of good players on offense, but unless they brought in 6-8 All-SEC defensive players that I'm unaware, they should suck again.
All we have to go on is precedent. And the precedent has been pretty consistent that players who will not have an opportunity to go to a bowl game are allowed to transfer without sitting out. Some of you people are fantasizing about what you could see the COI doing and not thinking about it from a standpoint of what they're really likely to do. They're going to absolutely hammer them with penalties, because that's what the penalty structure calls for. But there's no reason to think they'll break with their precedent on transfers. It's a moot point anyway. There simply aren't going to be many players wanting to transfer.
I think you will see transfers after this season. For MSU fans who've been following this, its easy to forget how much has happened over just the last month. Freeze and Bjork have lied to these players for a LONG time, and they are just now realizing it.
Many teams don't even have room to accept a last minute transfer this close to the season. After the players begin to see the true fallout of this rather than being told lies by their head coach --- combined with another coaching change by December --- they will start looking for somewhere to transfer before 2018. Even more so if the team starts to fall apart this season, and especially if the player still has a redshirt available.
Many teams don't even have room to accept a last minute transfer this close to the season. After the players begin to see the true fallout of this rather than being told lies by their head coach --- combined with another coaching change by December --- they will start looking for somewhere to transfer before 2018. Even more so if the team starts to fall apart this season, and especially if the player still has a redshirt available.
I was under the opinion that they probably have enough fire power on offense to be good and a manageable schedule, but that coaching would probably do them in.
Now that I look at it though, they have three should wins in South Alabama, TN Martin, and ULL. Neither UK, Vandy, nor MSU probably look that intimidating to them. Honestly not sure what Cal has.
But after that, are they going to be Arkansas (who has had their number?), LSU? Bama? Auburn? A&M? The only way they win any of those games is for the Ogre to be a disaster or to catch A&M during its annual short term meltdown.
If coaching is adequate, they'll have a better OL and a more experienced Shea. And their defensive talent wasn't as bad as it looked last year. But even if coaching is adequate, that still probably gives them a ceiling of 7 wins? Maybe 8 if they catch LSU or A&M when they're melting down? And that requires that they beat MSU and Vandy, each of whom beat them solidly last year, and UK who would have at least given them a run for their money at the end of last year.
So yea, it looks like a dream season for them will have a 7 or 8 win ceiling and if McGriff is as bad as the last coordinator, they are looking at a disaster of a season, even if Longo is good with the offense. I dont' know how I thought they might have a good year.
Agree. Think that if OM is given a 2-year bowl ban, ALL players are allowed to transfer without sitting out a year. After Penn State was hammered, ~9 or so took advantage of the rule.
"One of the biggest ramifications of the sanctions was a penalty that allowed Penn State players to transfer to any other program without sitting out a year. In the end, only nine players transferred that summer."
It all hinders on the bowl ban. If two years, then I do expect there to be some transfers.
No sense in a player transfering now when he'll get a free pass in a few months... plus the ability to play this year.
No sense in a player transfering now when he'll get a free pass in a few months... plus the ability to play this year.
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