In 2019, B1G payout goes from 12MM to 21MM or something like that IIRC. That goes a long way to offset the lost revenue.
Confirmed: Ash is back next year
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The revenue loss simply going forward is likely to at least equal what they are “saving” by paying Ash for another year.
I totally disagree with your idea that winning will bring the numbers back. The generational differences in what people like to do are huge. If they lose the people in their 30’s and 40’s, the demographics behind them do not have the same interests and will not be rushing to buy Rutgers season tickets even if they win.
So instead of finally being in good financial shape, RU athletics will just use the B1G windfall to pay for their incompetence. That’s a winning strategy.
It sucks I get it. But this isn’t an unexpected kick in the nuts. If you thought otherwise, you were just fooling yourself.
Unfortunately, when you look at the trend in our recruiting it is hard to see how it will be soon.
The funny thing is that I'm arguing the logic of the situation because that helps me avoid being emotional about it all. I want to be winning as much as anybody else and as soon as everybody else.
No, I expected it. It is just that as someone whose degree from RU is in Economics, the shortsighted financial decisions get me very worked up.
You are too close to the program and are really under estimating the disgust from the fan base. I am sure Hobbs is making the same mistake. Just watch what happens if Ash stays.
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You know when the times going to be right? Two years. That's when Barchi will complete his only mission for Rutgers Athletics, elimination of Direct Institutional support. He'll then retire with the only legacy he ever wanted to be known for in Athletic endeavors as that's when his new contract runs out.
True. Only way to speed things up is to hire a big name coach. Which everybody says will never happen.
I'm not so sure it won't ever happen. Never is a long time. One can point at successful football programs and see the tangible and intangible benefits, including obvious financial benefits.
RU has gone cheap with it's hires forever. But we haven't always been in the Big Ten. I have to think that an analysis that includes a full share of Big Ten TV money, combined with projections for what having a winning Big Ten football program could mean, combined with continued, expensive, misfires in coach hires have cost, will eventually suggest a dramatically different approach to the administration.
A boy can hope, right?
I doubt Hobbs is making that mistake. For all we know, he could be basing decisions on having a fully empty stadium for two seasons. Again, we don't know all the various financial plans for the athletic department, and the university at large. And without knowing that, we don't really know what the "right" financial decision is at the moment.
The football program doesn't exist in a vacuum. It's part of a much larger institution whose primary goal is higher education - not football.
We also still do not know if Ash will be here or not. I think people should calm down and wait another week before venting their spleens based on an article from the often incorrect NJ.COM website.
That's entirely possible. Lucky for me, as I race my way through middle age, I find that years are going by really, really, really fast.
I think the additional year is a mistake for this other reason. We have a decent amount of sophomore talent. If we got a new coach now, even if it is not a big name, that coach would have a partial 2019 class and full 2020 class to add to that sophomore class talent and potentially make a decent team in the 2020 season.
Now, by wasting that soph class on another year with Ash, we are pretty much insuring that any new coach is starting completely from scratch.
I seriously believe this might be a preemptive strike by Hobbs to lesson the blow for when his press conference takes place and he announces Ash's return. Guys a former ombudsman and has stopped all leaks from the athletic department. Now all of a sudden a leak, a week from the end of the season? Seems fishy to me.
This news is going to hurt recruiting. No kid is going to come here with a lame duck coaching staff
Ehhhh...I’ll give Hobbs the benefit of the doubt. I still think he has a brain. I will wait until he says something regarding Ash to judge. I got to tell you one thing...the man desperately wants to be liked...he probably doesn’t like the fact that most of country thinks he is the most incompetent dumbass in college sports. Didn’t take him long to attain that title. He has a chance to repair his reputation. I also have faith in the big donors...
I am the biggest die hard out there...but I am just at the poInt where I don’t enjoy this anymore..and frankly, I do not think I am alone...
I am the biggest die hard out there...but I am just at the poInt where I don’t enjoy this anymore..and frankly, I do not think I am alone...
In all due respect I think you are over analyzing the situation. And if you are not and this is being looked at by RU leaders as some big picture university thing then it will never be fixed and we are still playing little three football in a P5 League.
I think it's more likely a combination of NJ.COM looking to boost it's ratings by talking to a couple people who really have no clue what's going to happen. But what you say is certainly possible, albeit a bit Machiavellian.
He has a brain - unfortunately he has an ego to match and a basketball only upbringing that makes this likely mistake so devastating to the program.
Hey all's fair in love and war. And this is war, as he's got to know he's quickly losing the fan base. Now's the time to pull out all the stops.
I thought you died. Didn't I read somewhere Magoo from RU mboard's died? Anyway, glad you're still here.
Hobbs has not done anything to be given the benefit of the doubt.
Also just as big a diehard. Don’t kid yourself.
You may very well be right. He is clearly more of a political person - how else could someone with his resume get to lead a Big Ten athletic program.
You are on to something with the demographic realities - the recent fanbase is far less tolerant than prior groups. I am in a prior group and if Ash is retained my group of 16 has already decided to do winery tours next fall. lol
Some of you guys have to to get a grip with the "basketball only" narrative.
Louisville's Athletic Director had no background in athletics when hired. He was formerly a businessman. He played baseball for University of Kentucky. He had no basketball or football background. He fired Bobby Petrino.
Notre Dame's AD is a lawyer. He never served as an AD before becoming AD of Notre Dame in 2008. Has not seemed to have hurt Notre Dame football.
Oklahoma State's AD has a background in golf.
Purdue's AD has a baseball background, and was AD at Georgia Tech before taking the same role at Purdue .
I could go on, but you will just let it rip anyway. Being an AD at a university with a football program is not rocket science.
Since this admin doesn’t care about filling the building, can we move the students back to old corner and tarp the “new” endzone off for ad space? I’m sure companies would line up to pay tens of dollars for that kind of exposure!
Nothing wrong with your post, except that i threw up in my mouth a little bit when I read about the Ok St AD having a background in golf.
We joined the B1G in the 2014 season. I was talking about the drop from 2014 to 2018 and you are only giving part of that story. In addition, does your ticket revenue number include seat gifts?
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