Grow the war chest by making millions less in revenue from tickets, parking, seat gifts, etc. Makes sense.
Confirmed: Ash is back next year
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You've obviously never spoken with the guy. He cares more than any other AD I've known, which is 3 of them.
Unfortunately, the people with the money likely have a difference of opinion than you.
They will hire 2-3 new assistants to put lipstick on this pig.
If he cares, he will make the right decision here. Or maybe you are right , Hobbs cares, but he just stinks as an AD? Because keeping ash means he stinks .
I really like what Hobbs has done his first few years here but if Ash is back in 2019 that all changes and he’s got some major question marks on his ability to run a Power 5 AD.
Agreed. It might suck, but there is logic to it.
I suspect that they might even make it two years. I'm not positive, though, and I'm looking forward to the first few days after Saturday to find out what the decision might be.
If Ash does comes back for another year or two, it will obviously annoy a lot of fans. But if the program makes a big time hire, either now or at anytime in the future, a lot of fans will come back. And if the program starts winning fairly regularly again, the fans will come back even stronger than before because Big Ten.
If they don’t realize what will happen to ticket sales after this move they are in for a shock.
Good luck with that.
I donate mid 4 figures and didn’t even get a response from Hobbs.
If ash is back next year, both ash and Hobbs should be on the hot seat!
Maybe.
I'd have to have all the data Hobbs has in front of me to know if keeping Ash another season or two is wise or not. I don't think it's quite as clear cut a decision as unhappy fans wish it was.
I do wish we had reached out and snagged Les Miles. I think his name recognition might have really helped with recruiting. And his lifetime coaching record.
Well he sure demonstrates that real well that by not responding to any emails from RU donors .
LMAO.
You’re free to have your opinion. Bringing back Hobbs to buy 1 more year is going to set this program back 3-5 more years.
And Pass on Miles. That guy is 65 and sounded like he lost it in his presser today.
You guys must be terrible donors. I whisper in his ear while we have sex.
This may be true, but it really sucks if you happen to be a current student. 2 more years would mean more than 1 class of RU students would have graduated with the football team as a bottom feeder in the B1G throughout their whole time at RU.
Again, spot-on.
There was simply no way to win the coaching carousel this year.
Bear in mind that last year the athletic department needed more than $20 million in university funding to close its budget deficit. And that's not counting the "loan". That's $20 mil straight out of the operating budget.
There was NO WAY that Barchi was going to let Hobbs spend a single dime of Rutgers money on a coaching change this year. The only way it could have happened was if private money was available to cover the whole thing and we just don't have that kind of donor base.
Your are a real douchebag.
Not much of a donor ? A non-alumni who donates mid 4 figures to RU Athletics.
Don’t bother responding, I just added your not much of brain to the Ignore.
If their belief is that it doesn’t matter how they treat their customers now, because they will just come back when things get better, they are even dumber than we thought. Once people change their entertainment habits it is tough as hell to get them to revert back.
Did Rutgers hire their management away from a cable company?
Awesome. I get my Fall Saturdays back for another year
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Disappointing, but not surprising. This decision cements the fact that we have returned to being a complete joke/doormat program. Never foresaw this situation when we got the gift of the BIG invite. Can't see myself renewing.
He was so upset, he liked my post, lol. No offense, $5K donation is nice. But it isn't buying a new coach.
Nah.
There is one primary thing required to please customers enough to spend their entertainment dollar on a sports team and that's winning. If and when RUFB starts winning again, loads of people will come to the games and they'll even be able to raise the prices for tickets and parking.
Maybe it won't be you. Maybe it won't be people you know. But there are a shitload of people in and around NJ and RUFB is inexpensive entertainment compared to many other sports.
Winning solves everything.
Yes, one would think Hobbs is placing a pretty big bet on Ash to actually improve next year. Unless that is he is just executing his marching orders. In which case, we’ll be right back here again next year.
Rutgers is going to need to do a whole lot of winning in the future just to break even on the revenue they lost in the last five years and the next five.
Was Lombardi really a lucky Flood?There were old timers in Green Bay who claimed that he only won because of the previous coach's players.Plus,he hurt the team badly by trading Jim Ringo,breaking their championship run.
This is so f***in stupid I'm speechless. Nobody is showing up next year. Or probably the year after.
Only this stupid f***ing school would put our fanbase through another damn year of misery to save at most around 1M next year before eventually just firing him at the end of next year because we have NO MEANINGFUL incoming recruits to turn this around. They do not give one flying **** about our passion for this program or college football in general. Who is going to come here to play? To coach?? Who is going to actually get excited for a game next season? Idgaf if we beat UMass or some other cupcake team in September. Can I have one JUST ONE ,meaningful game in November. Win ONE recruiting battle.
Good f***ing job you cheapskates. I might not even return after you've hired someone halfway decent ....I have 0 trust they'll commit to winning in the future. If by this time next week he's not gone I'm gone forever.
What a waste of time. Just pack it the f*** up and go home because that's essentially what you're telling everyone with this shortsighted cheap decision.
If you don't care I don't care.
Only this stupid f***ing school would put our fanbase through another damn year of misery to save at most around 1M next year before eventually just firing him at the end of next year because we have NO MEANINGFUL incoming recruits to turn this around. They do not give one flying **** about our passion for this program or college football in general. Who is going to come here to play? To coach?? Who is going to actually get excited for a game next season? Idgaf if we beat UMass or some other cupcake team in September. Can I have one JUST ONE ,meaningful game in November. Win ONE recruiting battle.
Good f***ing job you cheapskates. I might not even return after you've hired someone halfway decent ....I have 0 trust they'll commit to winning in the future. If by this time next week he's not gone I'm gone forever.
What a waste of time. Just pack it the f*** up and go home because that's essentially what you're telling everyone with this shortsighted cheap decision.
If you don't care I don't care.
This article means nothing.
At this particular time RU anticipates making no changes at HC based on a statement from Hobbs last Summer. So what?
We have a game in 5 days. Let’s see what happens in the Roy Hobbs presser after the MSU game. He needs to convince RU fans that we can recover from this season. Tough sell imo. If he keeps Ash then Roy gets on the hot seat for many RU patrons.
Funny factoid from the article. If Ash goes 0-11 it will be RU FB worst record since 2002 when Schiano was HC.
Only the worst RU W-L record since 2002? What other P5 school could approach that stat? What a terrible FB history we have!
At this particular time RU anticipates making no changes at HC based on a statement from Hobbs last Summer. So what?
We have a game in 5 days. Let’s see what happens in the Roy Hobbs presser after the MSU game. He needs to convince RU fans that we can recover from this season. Tough sell imo. If he keeps Ash then Roy gets on the hot seat for many RU patrons.
Funny factoid from the article. If Ash goes 0-11 it will be RU FB worst record since 2002 when Schiano was HC.
Only the worst RU W-L record since 2002? What other P5 school could approach that stat? What a terrible FB history we have!
It’s telling that Hobbs has not made any kind of a statement one way or the other.
This hurts recruiting. Which is not good.
This usually means a change is coming.
The IRS will be happy to know that they'll be getting a lot more money from all of you itemizers.
My take on this is that Hobbs actually thinks Ash can still turn the program. Which is the ultimate problem here...Hobbs doesn't know anything really about college football. If he did, he would realize that Ash is failing on just about every metric you can evaluate. He has no answers to the problems he has created or problems he inherited and failed to improve.
I mean, sure, anyone can say "It takes time and I'm giving my coach time. End of story." But a good AD knows where the team is tracking and ours can't see it. We're stuck...with both of them.
I mean, sure, anyone can say "It takes time and I'm giving my coach time. End of story." But a good AD knows where the team is tracking and ours can't see it. We're stuck...with both of them.
Actually, this year’s tax reform bill got rid of several itemized deductions in return for a higher standard deduction, theoretically reducing the number of itemizers and making more people’s seat gift donations non-deductible (another reason for people to not get season tickets).
I hate to say this, but if in fact he is coming back
it is the right move. If we keep making head coach changes every three years we will turn into the Cleveland Browns — an organization always rebuilding. Believe me, I can’t stand Ash, but there is at least some logic in riding it out with this ahole.
it is the right move. If we keep making head coach changes every three years we will turn into the Cleveland Browns — an organization always rebuilding. Believe me, I can’t stand Ash, but there is at least some logic in riding it out with this ahole.
He couldn't possibly have special data on how many are renewing next year -- the big question mark -- as they haven't asked yet.
What he does know is that Rutgers has been losing STHs like crazy since Ash was hired, that he is the guy that picked Ash, he is the guy that negotiated his contract, and he would have to admit an expensive mistake by firing him.
That would only be true if there were some semblance of a recruiting class that will be competitive or some reasonable thought that the 2020 class will improve. There's no basis for either.
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