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So much of football is about confidence and belief. We get upset at Frost for talking up the team and trying to build confidence, but it is so important. Minnesota is a prime example of the importance or confidence. They were lucky to beat some bad teams early, but they won and now they believe. They really benefited from the weak schedule early to build belief and confidence. Much like Iowa did in their “undefeated” season and like KSU used to do.
 

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So much of football is about confidence and belief. We get upset at Frost for talking up the team and trying to build confidence, but it is so important. Minnesota is a prime example of the importance or confidence. They were lucky to beat some bad teams early, but they won and now they believe. They really benefited from the weak schedule early to build belief and confidence. Much like Iowa did in their “undefeated” season and like KSU used to do.

Most of it is exactly that, confidence. Once you lose that or even some of that, it’s hard to get it going again. Even more so for a young coaching staff staff and a young team. I have no doubt in my mind Frost will get us winning again and competing for BIG 10 titles yearly, we just have to get through years like this to get to those years unfortunately.

I backed Adrain Martinez all year long but now, I’m really tempted to say give the keys to Luke McCaffrey and let that young man roll. He’s a clear cut baller just like his dad and his brothers and his legs and arm could do some major damage against slower teams.
 

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Most of it is exactly that, confidence. Once you lose that or even some of that, it’s hard to get it going again. Even more so for a young coaching staff staff and a young team. I have no doubt in my mind Frost will get us winning again and competing for BIG 10 titles yearly, we just have to get through years like this to get to those years unfortunately.

I backed Adrain Martinez all year long but now, I’m really tempted to say give the keys to Luke McCaffrey and let that young man roll. He’s a clear cut baller just like his dad and his brothers and his legs and arm could do some major damage against slower teams.

Yes, so very well said sir. It's soooooo hard to get that essential confidence back. That being as it is, a decent/average OLine would still help a lot imo.
 

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Yes, so very well said sir. It's soooooo hard to get that essential confidence back. That being as it is, a decent/average OLine would still help a lot imo.

that’s no lie, man a decent to good Oline would help us a lot. We are missing some of the most important areas. Then of course, the way our Husker luck is, Martinez had to take a step backwards instead of taking a step forward. That doesn’t help either. He’s been very inaccurate this year and constantly misses (Doesn’t see) the wide open WRs and TEs down the field.
 

bshirt73

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that’s no lie, man a decent to good Oline would help us a lot. We are missing some of the most important areas. Then of course, the way our Husker luck is, Martinez had to take a step backwards instead of taking a step forward. That doesn’t help either. He’s been very inaccurate this year and constantly misses (Doesn’t see) the wide open WRs and TEs down the field.

Yes, I wish I knew what's so wrong with him this year. "Something" is very wrong.....he was so sensational last year so why so marginal this year with passing "and" running the ball? Our defense, marginal as it is still is an improvement over last year imo (I know.....that's not saying much).

Heh, but our OLine is way, wayyyy worse than last year's 2nd half of the season so.....it's a rough, tough year for us (again). I guess there's no easy way to quickly upgrade the big uglies.
 

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Yes, I wish I knew what's so wrong with him this year. "Something" is very wrong.....he was so sensational last year so why so marginal this year with passing "and" running the ball? Our defense, marginal as it is still is an improvement over last year imo (I know.....that's not saying much).

Heh, but our OLine is way, wayyyy worse than last year's 2nd half of the season so.....it's a rough, tough year for us (again). I guess there's no easy way to quickly upgrade the big uglies.

One thing we can hope for is Bryce Benhart being ready and taking the OT spot next year and then moving Farniok over to guard (where he belongs). That should/could help tons. I think Benhart and Jaimes could hold the tackle spots down next year and then let Turner Corcoran take Jaimes spot over after that year.

And if Adrian Martinez is still struggling, Frost has got to consider letting Luke McCaffrey take over at QB. McCaffreys legs alone will make up for his youth and learning curves and any issues he has with throwing the ball (although I think he will do just fine with his accuracy).
 

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Scott Frost lost his chance to gain confidence against Colorado with terrible play calling

Colorado game is a game where Frost got completely out coached. I’d say Indiana and Purdue are the other two. Tough to blame Chins when the offense doesn’t move the chains.
 

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Colorado game is a game where Frost got completely out coached. I’d say Indiana and Purdue are the other two. Tough to blame Chins when the offense doesn’t move the chains.

i still have trouble saying “out coached” when I’m seeing players on the field doing stupid crap ruining drives. Or defenses making horrible reads. Maybe it’s just me...
 

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So much of football is about confidence and belief. We get upset at Frost for talking up the team and trying to build confidence, but it is so important. Minnesota is a prime example of the importance or confidence. They were lucky to beat some bad teams early, but they won and now they believe. They really benefited from the weak schedule early to build belief and confidence. Much like Iowa did in their “undefeated” season and like KSU used to do.

Minnesota has a big OL, great receivers and is undersized everywhere else but plays hard, smart fundamentally sound football.

This is who we want to be. Throw shade at Fleck, the guy can coach and motivate his kids.
 

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One thing we can hope for is Bryce Benhart being ready and taking the OT spot next year and then moving Farniok over to guard (where he belongs). That should/could help tons. I think Benhart and Jaimes could hold the tackle spots down next year and then let Turner Corcoran take Jaimes spot over after that year.

And if Adrian Martinez is still struggling, Frost has got to consider letting Luke McCaffrey take over at QB.

Well, that sounds damn good to me! Also, you betcha, if AMart can't bounce back that Luke kid can really MOVE. So, we'll just hang in there......never say die!
 

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i still have trouble saying “out coached” when I’m seeing players on the field doing stupid crap ruining drives. Or defenses making horrible reads. Maybe it’s just me...

I judge the play calling or lack there of. The other coaches made constant adjustments while our head man didn’t make them.
 

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I judge the play calling or lack there of. The other coaches made constant adjustments while our head man didn’t make them.

I feel you, me and you just see it differently. Nothing wrong with that, not all of us will see things the same.
 

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i still have trouble saying “out coached” when I’m seeing players on the field doing stupid crap ruining drives. Or defenses making horrible reads. Maybe it’s just me...

That's the epitome of coaching. Great coaches drill and drill on the little things so that the stupid stuff doesn't happen. Average coaches assume the players know and can execute the simple stuff.
 

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That's the epitome of coaching. Great coaches drill and drill on the little things so that the stupid stuff doesn't happen. Average coaches assume the players know and can execute the simple stuff.

lol, and some have no other choice but to play the players they have at the moment...
 

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I never blamed The defense, I blamed Frost

I blame both the defense and offense. Both came out of half time flat. Mo Barry even admitted they where all playing like they had the game won already. You should never do that, or you will lose every single time.
 

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I blame both the defense and offense. Both came out of half time flat. Mo Barry even admitted they where all playing like they had the game won already. You should never do that, or you will lose every single time.

So ironic Mo would say that, due to having a career win percentage less than .500.
 

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I judge the play calling or lack there of. The other coaches made constant adjustments while our head man didn’t make them.
What “adjustments” exactly did you see? Since we jumped out to an early lead, did that mean the other staff wasn’t prepared? So sick of people cluelessly throwing this term out there. Yes our staff needs to improve in a number of areas and may need to make some staff changes, but this whole “adjustments” nonsense is comical.
 

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Most of it is exactly that, confidence. Once you lose that or even some of that, it’s hard to get it going again. Even more so for a young coaching staff staff and a young team. I have no doubt in my mind Frost will get us winning again and competing for BIG 10 titles yearly, we just have to get through years like this to get to those years unfortunately.

I backed Adrain Martinez all year long but now, I’m really tempted to say give the keys to Luke McCaffrey and let that young man roll. He’s a clear cut baller just like his dad and his brothers and his legs and arm could do some major damage against slower teams.
Agree about Martinez. How long do you stick with somebody who has regressed? I’m afraid of the answer with this crew...
 

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If Wisconsin comes to Lincoln beat up, tired and being called for as many penalties as they are in the 1st quarter of the Iowa game; we might catch a break and develop confidence like Illinois did. Agreeing with me means drinking koolaid, but it's not an expensive drink.
 

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So much of football is about confidence and belief. We get upset at Frost for talking up the team and trying to build confidence, but it is so important. Minnesota is a prime example of the importance or confidence. They were lucky to beat some bad teams early, but they won and now they believe. They really benefited from the weak schedule early to build belief and confidence. Much like Iowa did in their “undefeated” season and like KSU used to do.
Stupid fans get upset when we lose and happy when we win. Decent fans look for positives when we are losing and look for negatives when we win. Minnesota is 5-0 in one score games this year and their record is based on random luck. They should have 2 to 3 losses with at least one of them coming to a bad opponent. The ball has bounced the right way for them through the first 9 games...suddenly it won't and people will wonder "what went wrong"? They are a good team...a 9 or 10 win team in most seasons...this one will likely end up a major outlier though because they are winning so many close games...and winning close games is not a trait of a good team it is based on luck. Our best teams rarely or never played in close games, we destroyed our opponents and a close game was two scores..or statistically an unlosable game.
 

yort2000

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Stupid fans get upset when we lose and happy when we win. Decent fans look for positives when we are losing and look for negatives when we win. Minnesota is 5-0 in one score games this year and their record is based on random luck. They should have 2 to 3 losses with at least one of them coming to a bad opponent. The ball has bounced the right way for them through the first 9 games...suddenly it won't and people will wonder "what went wrong"? They are a good team...a 9 or 10 win team in most seasons...this one will likely end up a major outlier though because they are winning so many close games...and winning close games is not a trait of a good team it is based on luck. Our best teams rarely or never played in close games, we destroyed our opponents and a close game was two scores..or statistically an unlosable game.

That is not random luck. Good coaching wins close games. Random luck is the difference between 3-2 and 5-0. Being in the position to be 5-0 in that situation is good coaching.
 

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That is not random luck. Good coaching wins close games. Random luck is the difference between 3-2 and 5-0. Being in the position to be 5-0 in that situation is good coaching.
I’m sure you would be saying playing close games with South Dakota State, Georgia Southern and Fresno State is the definition of great coaching if we started the season like that.
 

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College football is more emotional and confidence is situational and conditional. I enjoy college football because of the momentum shifts. Hope Nebraska can catch some breaks and shift the cloud of despair that is hanging over the fans at the moment.
 

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So much of football is about confidence and belief. We get upset at Frost for talking up the team and trying to build confidence, but it is so important. Minnesota is a prime example of the importance or confidence. They were lucky to beat some bad teams early, but they won and now they believe. They really benefited from the weak schedule early to build belief and confidence. Much like Iowa did in their “undefeated” season and like KSU used to do.
Chicken or egg discussion. Hard to have confidence w/o winning. Hard to win w/o confidence. Keep doing things the right way and things will break your way.
 

Solana Beach Husker

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That is not random luck. Good coaching wins close games. Random luck is the difference between 3-2 and 5-0. Being in the position to be 5-0 in that situation is good coaching.
Naw...good coaching means you aren't in close games. Winning a game by 6 just means you missed an opportunity to win the game by 9 or 13...if a single play can lose you the game it is luck. 5x this year Minnesota could have lossed on a freak play...a safety falling down, a wr slipping and falling, a bad snap...go back and look at stats...if you play a 1000 one score games...you will win 500 and lose 500...great teams like the Patriots do not play in one score games...they beat teams by two scores or more. When they end up playing close games..ie super bowls...they end up losing half of them.
 

Joe_Bananas

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Chicken or egg discussion. Hard to have confidence w/o winning. Hard to win w/o confidence. Keep doing things the right way and things will break your way.
Should add this is why recruiting is so important. Being more talented masks other weaknesses.
 

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Chicken or egg discussion. Hard to have confidence w/o winning. Hard to win w/o confidence. Keep doing things the right way and things will break your way.
Absolutely winning breads confidence. Minnesota was not a good team when they were beating Georgia Southern in overtime. But they gained confidence and started to believe. We see it all the time UCF in their undefeated season, Iowa in their two loss season they call an undefeated season. Happens all the time. And it goes the other way too, which we have seen far too often.
 

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Stupid fans get upset when we lose and happy when we win. Decent fans look for positives when we are losing and look for negatives when we win. Minnesota is 5-0 in one score games this year and their record is based on random luck. They should have 2 to 3 losses with at least one of them coming to a bad opponent. The ball has bounced the right way for them through the first 9 games...suddenly it won't and people will wonder "what went wrong"? They are a good team...a 9 or 10 win team in most seasons...this one will likely end up a major outlier though because they are winning so many close games...and winning close games is not a trait of a good team it is based on luck. Our best teams rarely or never played in close games, we destroyed our opponents and a close game was two scores..or statistically an unlosable game.

Nebraska Fans need to quit using 1994, 1997 and especially 1995 (the best college football team ever) as the benchmark. Even so, we had close games in 94 and 97 and yes, we won them all because of good coaching.


1994

NU 17 - KSU 6
NU 13 - OU 3
NU 24 - Miami 17

1997

NU 45 - MU 38 OT
NU 27 - CU 24
 

yort2000

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Naw...good coaching means you aren't in close games. Winning a game by 6 just means you missed an opportunity to win the game by 9 or 13...if a single play can lose you the game it is luck. 5x this year Minnesota could have lossed on a freak play...a safety falling down, a wr slipping and falling, a bad snap...go back and look at stats...if you play a 1000 one score games...you will win 500 and lose 500...great teams like the Patriots do not play in one score games...they beat teams by two scores or more. When they end up playing close games..ie super bowls...they end up losing half of them.

BS. I totally disagree. Being above the bell curve on the number of close games you should statistically win is a sign of good coaching. Blowouts are a sign of a talent advantage. Blowing everyone out (1995) is a sign of great talent and great coaching.
 

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BS. I totally disagree. Being above the bell curve on the number of close games you should statistically win is a sign of good coaching. Blowouts are a sign of a talent advantage. Blowing everyone out (1995) is a sign of great talent and great coaching.
Your safety slipping and falling has nothing to do with great coaching. The ball is oblong and bounces funny, and the game is played outside in uncontrolled conditions. A one score game can be, and is easily decided by uncontrollable factors such as a kicker pulling their groin, a qb missing a series, a ref missing a PI call...a two score game is not so easily decided as that will need series of events to change the score. And a series of events is indicative of a talent advantage at coach, players, or both. In the Minnesota game there was inevitably an event during PSUs last drive that cost them the game because somebody slipped, or a ref missed a call...ie when the ref missed a PI call in the middle of the game that would have placed the ball at PSUs two yard line and instead lead to a minni INT...that has nothing to do with coaching but decided the game because the teams were evenly matched for the day. Minn either plays down to their competition..4-0 in close games against inferior teams, or PSU had a bad day, or a combination of factors. The point is, if you look back at every team over time they will rarely if ever go 5-0 in a season in 1 score games...our best over the last 40 years has been 3-1...and our best years we rarely had more than 2 close games...we either rolled or were rolled.
 

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Your safety slipping and falling has nothing to do with great coaching. The ball is oblong and bounces funny, and the game is played outside in uncontrolled conditions. A one score game can be, and is easily decided by uncontrollable factors such as a kicker pulling their groin, a qb missing a series, a ref missing a PI call...a two score game is not so easily decided as that will need series of events to change the score. And a series of events is indicative of a talent advantage at coach, players, or both. In the Minnesota game there was inevitably an event during PSUs last drive that cost them the game because somebody slipped, or a ref missed a call...ie when the ref missed a PI call in the middle of the game that would have placed the ball at PSUs two yard line and instead lead to a minni INT...that has nothing to do with coaching.

exactly. This team, this year, could very easily be 7-2 as well as 4-5. We are closer then some realize. Some of these guys are just dead stuck on wanting to blame the coaching and always the coaching. I think they gotten used to it over the years and now they just assume that’s always the issue.