Concession gripes

ru66

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not for nothing but boy some of you act like either real babies or the senior population you like to ridicule--I've never seem more cranky old men
 
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Local Shill

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not for nothing but boy some of you act like either real babies or the senior population you like to ridicule--I've never seem more cranky old men
You think the concessions are good? You're a fool. Do you tolerate horrendous performances by your employees?
 
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Sweet Pea's Corner

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Anytime anyone mentions problems within RU that old kook ridicules the posters instead of adding a solution. He is the true meaning of accepting mediocrity.
 
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ElmiraExpress

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The Somerset Patriots have concessions run by Centerplate, which uses a mix of seasonal union labor and non profit groups. They have had that account for 20 years and have a GM (Mike McDermott) who really knows his stuff. Sodexo has been here for under 4. And you can dispute the 90% figure if you'd like, I happen to have run some of the largest concession operations in the entire country, so I think I know what is accurate. (To Sodexo's credit they did offer me a job, but they are cheeeeaaappp). I try to refain from posting on these issues, and yes the concessions could be run better, but your assertion that the problem is the labor force is wrong. It is the on site manager and probably some very restrictive budgetary guidelines. I have visited and consulted at dozens of concessions operations, including Indiana, BYU, UNLV, Cal, Stanford, multiple NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL venues, as well as minor league baseball (I ran Staten Island Yankees after I was at Yankee Stadium). I can assure you my information is accurate. If you want leverage, ***** to your season ticket rep and to Hobbs.

If Hobbs is talking to random fans about concessions, then he is the wrong guy for the job. He has some very important and difficult issues to attend to. While the concessions at the RAC are worse than awful, hopefully Hobbs won't take your call ... unless you are also donating a practice facility as well !
 
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The Somerset Patriots have concessions run by Centerplate, which uses a mix of seasonal union labor and non profit groups. They have had that account for 20 years and have a GM (Mike McDermott) who really knows his stuff. Sodexo has been here for under 4. And you can dispute the 90% figure if you'd like, I happen to have run some of the largest concession operations in the entire country, so I think I know what is accurate. (To Sodexo's credit they did offer me a job, but they are cheeeeaaappp). I try to refain from posting on these issues, and yes the concessions could be run better, but your assertion that the problem is the labor force is wrong. It is the on site manager and probably some very restrictive budgetary guidelines. I have visited and consulted at dozens of concessions operations, including Indiana, BYU, UNLV, Cal, Stanford, multiple NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL venues, as well as minor league baseball (I ran Staten Island Yankees after I was at Yankee Stadium). I can assure you my information is accurate. If you want leverage, ***** to your season ticket rep and to Hobbs.
So that was a long-winded way of agreeing that the service is bad. Also, in my original post, I didn't support banning the community groups, just moving them off the main stands. I usually eat beforehand anyway, but when it's difficult to get a bottle of water something is wrong.
 

S.W.A.I.N

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So that was a long-winded way of agreeing that the service is bad. Also, in my original post, I didn't support banning the community groups, just moving them off the main stands. I usually eat beforehand anyway, but when it's difficult to get a bottle of water something is wrong.
So you put the community on non revenue producing areas so its no longer a viable fundraiser as they provide labor and only get a commission. They may as well work a min wage job and donate that money. You don't understand how it works. If you want union workers, the contract will certainly not allow NPO groups to take a job from a represented employee.
Was that concise and to the point enough?
 

S.W.A.I.N

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If Hobbs is talking to random fans about concessions, then he is the wrong guy for the job. He has some very important and difficult issues to attend to. While the concessions at the RAC are worse than awful, hopefully Hobbs won't take your call ... unless you are also donating a practice facility as well !
If you think season ticket holders don't care about concessions/hospitality you are 100% wrong.
 

RUPete

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So you put the community on non revenue producing areas so its no longer a viable fundraiser as they provide labor and only get a commission. They may as well work a min wage job and donate that money. You don't understand how it works. If you want union workers, the contract will certainly not allow NPO groups to take a job from a represented employee.
Was that concise and to the point enough?
If they can't get it done...so be it. Now, that's concise. All kidding aside, I think we both agree that the service needs to improve. You clearly know this business better than I do. I can only speak from my experience as a season ticket holder for 20+ years. My experience has been that these groups have trouble handling crowds at the main stands. Are they the only issue? Probably not, but they are one of them. I don't want to be the community group grinch, but I see it as an issue.
 
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Sweet Pea's Corner

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Can't wait. Does RU read these boards and come up with these ideas just to piss us off? Well the mac and cheese wasn't to bad. Let's hit with a combo meal.... they won't have a clue what that involves .
 

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Only fools eat at these venues (RAC, PruCenter, met stadium)
Have had food & beverage at Seton Hall games at PruCenter multiple times. Not bad. And this after splendid outings at Ironbound eateries before games. Light year difference from RAC concessions which are insultingly bad. The fools are the Rutgers Athletics Dept and whoever runs the concessions. Adds nothing to the game day experience, especially for the casual fan who catches a game or three a year. Reflects poorly on Rutgers and the way they go about their business and treat paying customers.
 
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RUPete

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It's funny, but I rarely think about going to the concessions because the experience is so bad. We also have a few posters saying people are idiots for not eating first and wanting to use the concession stands. How bad is the situation to get us to that point?
 

Sweet Pea's Corner

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It's funny, but I rarely think about going to the concessions because the experience is so bad. We also have a few posters saying people are idiots for not eating first and wanting to use the concession stands. How bad is the situation to get us to that point?

This! Some posters blame people for using the concessions. That's funny.
 

Knightmoves

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For what it's worth, I received a Game Day Experience survey this morning for the RU-Indiana game and indicated that concessions need the most attention with comments.

Sounds like you've taken the bull by the horns there, Sport. Any chance you can post your comments for all to read ? Pls keep us informed of any additional progress you make with improving the RAC concessions.
 
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Mr_Twister

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For what it's worth, I received a Game Day Experience survey this morning for the RU-Indiana game and indicated that concessions need the most attention with comments.
Did you respond "Yes" to the survey when it asked would you like someone to follow up with you directly? Would be most interesting to get a name, their job title, and their reaction to your comments and the plan of action proposed to resolve the problem. Hopefully the Fan Advisory Board cites concessions as a real issue, as well.
 

Tango Two

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Yes- I ate at a diner beforehand. Didn't go near the stands. I did notice that people who ventured out to the stands at halftime didn't return until the second half was underway.

Eating before is the ticket
 

Sweet Pea's Corner

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Stop please with the eat before the game. This is called customer service. All bets are off if an RU rep reply is sorry but eat before the game.
 
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Turtle31

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Wondering what the concessions will be like Sunday for the Globetrotters? Certainly we should expect that the customer flow would be higher at such a family oriented event.
If anyone posts here that one shouldn't expect decent service at that event is just delusional. Let's see what we get.
 

ScarletRunner

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Sounds like you've taken the bull by the horns there, Sport. Any chance you can post your comments for all to read ? Pls keep us informed of any additional progress you make with improving the RAC concessions.
Perhaps his feedback will have no effect, but it can't possibly have less of an effect than your numerous messages repeating the same thing on this thread, and likely took him less time.
 

Tango Two

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Wondering what the concessions will be like Sunday for the Globetrotters? Certainly we should expect that the customer flow would be higher at such a family oriented event.
If anyone posts here that one shouldn't expect decent service at that event is just delusional. Let's see what we get.
 

Plum Street

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This thread is pathetic . Grumpy people complaining about the crappy concessions . News flash folks the coach stinks , the team stinks and now the concessions stink . Why do you people bother going if everything stinks ?
 

RUonBrain

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This thread is pathetic . Grumpy people complaining about the crappy concessions . News flash folks the coach stinks , the team stinks and now the concessions stink . Why do you people bother going if everything stinks ?

They are RUTGERS fans!

I haven't been to the RAC in years, but the only thing more annoying than the concessions there is the people complaining about the people complaining about the concessions.

You are right!
Everything sucks right now.
That is all the more reason to let people vent (about all of this).

The only way things will change is if those in power listen to the laments of the fans.
If we don't complain, why should the AD department change anything?
 
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srru86

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I've asked this before but even Einstein couldn't explain it. Can someone please explain the logic in this about the RAC and the stadium?

If I want to bring a bottle of water in it must be sealed and have the cap on.
If I buy a water at a concession stand, the cap is removed from the water presumably to lessen injuries when *I* or someone else throws the bottle on the field, court or in the stands.

I once tried to ask the esteemed longtime Senior Associate Athletic Director for Facilties/Events/Operations, but the answer was a typically bureaucratic non-answer.
If they banned bringing in any outside drinks would that solve the conundrum for you?

And yes, more generally, the selection and service is lousy.