I apologize for not following the discussion carefully enough, but I am very inexperienced at dealing with streaming. My TV (several years old, but still pretty smart) does give me a way of using Youtube TV. About how much would it cost to use Youtube monthly? Are there other things to watch beside people's videos? Is there any other service that is likely to give me access to Rutgers games with maybe some better content? I still believe a deal will be worked out between BTN and Comcast, but I want to be prepared.
Comcast could dump Big Ten Network
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Basically this answers my question. Thank you. I was given a Roku for Xmas last year 2016, it's still in the box. Do you think it would be new enough for YouTube tv?
YouTube, YouTube Premium and YouTube TV are three different things.
YouTube - 100% free, you just watch videos and share videos It is video based social media
YouTube Premium - same as above but you get no ads and you can stream music. This is not free, this is a paid service. The app on your phone allow you to listen to music on YouTube Premium while doing other stuff on your phone.
YouTubeTV - This is not free, it is paid service. This allow you to stream TV channels, movies and sports just like cable.
Prices can be found here: https://tv.youtube.com/welcome/
It definitely should work. You'd have to add the YouTube TV channel and then sign up for YouTube TV service.
many thanks. My problem with cutting the cable cord is that we like watching Phillies games, and we think the channel is available only through comcast. We also like getting local news and weather, and it seems unclear whether we'd get these channels. So basically we'd be adding YoutubeTV at $40 per month while still using cable. Not an easy choice to make,and my guess would be that at some point Youtube TV will find ways to make life unpleasant for those who cancel every year.
I would think so. I don't have it but it might not be a "default" app right out of the box but I'd guess it would have some sort of "app store" where you can download for free and add it to your Roku device. It's the same idea as adding apps to your phone that aren't installed when you buy it.
It's part of Google I doubt it, that's not usually the MO of many tech companies. Look at TMobile even, they started the trend of getting rid of contracts, lower pricing, unlimited this or that and that's not changed since. It's better to have someone use the service even for the short term rather than not at all. Who knows you get some "stickyness" from those samplers so why dissuade them with a poor experience.
Pricing can always go up and it has with YouTube TV and the other streaming services already and you see the same with Netflilx, Prime etc..but ease of cancelling I don't suspect will be as much of an issue.
Camden:
YTTV has 60+ channels. All local stations. All the important sports & news channels. You should be able to cancel Comcast & see your Phillies games.(Channel10 & CSN) If you miss the lifestyle channels there's another streaming app called Philo (35 Channels) that meets those needs ($17/month).
https://www.phillyvoice.com/youtube-tv-launches-philly-comcast-sportsnet/
https://tv.youtube.com/welcome/
Move out of the area and you can get the mlb.tv app. Best way to watch baseball - archives all games so you can watch any time, can jump to innings or watch shorter replays, can choose home or away broadcast, and it's much cheaper than carrying cable just for baseball. Something like $130 for every team or $80 for a single team, full season.
MLB local blackouts prevent you from watching live games inside a team's broadcast footprint, tho
anyone looking for 5G to solve anything other than possibly the cost of higher speed internet, is fooling themselves.
and don't hold your breath till 5G hits your house.
and once it someday does, don't count on it to cut your internet bill all that much.
that said, the programming costs, thus the costs of cable or virtual cable packages, have nothing to do with the delivery system.
the problem is the bundle itself, and a bundle on You Tube or Hulu, (which Comcast owns a chunk of), or Amazon, or anything else, will still have the same cost issues as it does on cable.
only flat out govt corruption allows for the bundle to still exist.
get govt to blow up the bundle, and what you want will become way way more affordable, regardless of who you get it from.
the beyond anti competitive bundle itself, is why your video bill is grossly over priced beyond belief.
this occurs only because corrupt legislators and regulators allow it to.
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I live in Massachusetts and am dropping Comcast and installing Direct TV on August 1st. Unfortunately I don't have Verizon in my town so Direct TV is my only alternative. Comcast sucks --their rates have skyrocketed and now their offerrings have been cut. To hell with Comcast.....
Big Ten coaches go on offensive: Keep our football games on Comcast
https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/...aches_go_on_offensive_keep_big_ten_games.html
In other words, it's Comcast who has the leverage, not the Big Ten. I think there will be a deal -- just instinct -- but that the Big Ten won't do as well as we would hope.
Which -- that I think there is going to be a deal? I think that Comcast probably does not want to be in the headlines at a time that is difficult for them. That I think the item indicates that Comcast has the leverage? Because otherwise the Big 10 coaches wouldn't be involved at all -- they're trying to tell their bosses "we really want a deal." And the side that more wants a deal is often the losing side when the deal is made.
I don't think the coach video is intended to sway the Big Ten brass; I think it was initiated by the Big Ten brass to show that they have leverage over Comcast because they have more influence over fans than Comcast does. The inference from the video is that if Comcast does not reach a deal, then fans will drop Comcast so that they don't miss Big Ten games.
Don't you think Comcast is a little sour over Fox selling certain assets to Disney instead of them? I don't think money is the issue. Comcast ego is bruised.
That's a possibility, but I think the profit motive will be more powerful. Remember that, as more people pull the plug on cable, Comcast will not want to give people a motive to switch to services that do carry BTN. It's not as though Comcast is in a monopoly position any more and can simply do what it likes.
Not true at all. Comcast reports new customers to Wall Street from what i've been told. The company has no problem having customers leave and come back 2 years later as new customers. You should have seen how many customers were happy to switch back to Comcast because the YES network was brought back.
I know many people who left Comcast when the YES fiasco happened & none of them returned once they signed up with FIOS
I think they've lost net new subscribers in video but have added new subscribers in broadband. I believe it's the same for other cable providers. I don't know if it's as much about content though as just the shift to video streaming over the internet.
Ok. And I sold residential services for Comcast and lots of customers came back after YES was brought back.
Yup - I have Youtube TV - run it through my XBox 1. It's pretty good for Sports:
BTN
ESPN
ESPN 2
ESPN U
ESPN NEWS
FS1
FS2
YES
SNY
NBC SN
SEC
NBA TV
MLB NETWORK
GOLF CHANNEL
CBS SPORTS NETWORK
NOT getting Phillies games is one of the BENEFITS of cord cutting!
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I live in NW Jersey and get the Phillies Games and get NY stations on Youtube TV
2 CBS
4 NBC
5 FOX
7 ABC
9
No 11
So they adjust whatever market your in to your local news outlets - I don't watch them but you would get your local news and teams.
My thing is have Comcast for my IP - I don't think they could block BTN on Youtube TV if they fall out. Hopefully they cant.
That's the fear some people have about the net neutrality issue unfolding now. Internet providers like Comcast can control what you can actually see on the internet. Depending on the deal with Comcast, different companies may not have easy access to offer their sites on the internet. Youtube may have to drop BTN if they expect Comcast to allow them access.
Not defending the company dude. Just stating facts. I actually am not a big fan of any cable or phone company. Think they are all ******.
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The things is Youtube TV is a package - so Comcast would have go into their software and block all Youtube TV....to screw with the BTN. imo
Is it possible - sure and I'll just jump to Verizon. Will let you know.
I'd be surprised if Comcast blocked YouTubeTV or any other service. I don't think they can block a specific channel being streamed either. It's the service in total if anything they might be able to slow but Google isn't some small company, it could pay whatever fee if there was one. Same for Amazon and Netflix even for that matter. It would likely get passed along to consumers anyhow.
Besides as of now as I said above most of these cable providers are losing net new video subscribers while adding net new broadband subscribers. I think video still adds more gross revenue to the bottom line for now to these companies but as far as profits I'm not sure which side is more profitable.
Regardless if people are going strictly to streaming and suddenly you choke down their streaming well you've lost them for video and you're encouraging them to also look for any possible alternative for streaming. Is that smart business, especially long term say 10 years down when 5G becomes more reliable (not the initial introduction in the early 2020s) . That's going to be a tough environment as is and thne you do things to make your customers unhappy and suddenly those net new subs in broadband can also turn into net losses just like video.
Besides as of now as I said above most of these cable providers are losing net new video subscribers while adding net new broadband subscribers. I think video still adds more gross revenue to the bottom line for now to these companies but as far as profits I'm not sure which side is more profitable.
Regardless if people are going strictly to streaming and suddenly you choke down their streaming well you've lost them for video and you're encouraging them to also look for any possible alternative for streaming. Is that smart business, especially long term say 10 years down when 5G becomes more reliable (not the initial introduction in the early 2020s) . That's going to be a tough environment as is and thne you do things to make your customers unhappy and suddenly those net new subs in broadband can also turn into net losses just like video.
In past, I would never fear something like this, but times have changed. The unlikely is very likely now.:weary:
Camden--Youtube TV has a 7 day free trial you can use (edit: actually now they're doing 14 day trials if you sign up for the trial by 8/15). I tried it out last month to see how it was. NBC Sports Philadelphia is on the lineup (are all of the local CBS/Fox/ABC/NBC stations) but NBC Sports Philadelphia Plus is not on the lineup. So basically you'd be potentially missing out on 5-10% of games each season. Overall, had a really good experience with them and likely will be switching over to that by the end of the year.
Youtube TV is no joke - I run Comcast internet and they give me like 30 non HD channels which i never watch for like 69 bucks and pay 40 month for Youtube TV in HD.
All I watch is Yankees - Mets and TBS for Big Bang Theory re-runs post season 4 sucks but like i said for Sports its good.
And there are a crap load of movies you can get on demand for free - for the kids Harry Potter - the Hobbit - Lord of the Rings etc.
All I watch is Yankees - Mets and TBS for Big Bang Theory re-runs post season 4 sucks but like i said for Sports its good.
And there are a crap load of movies you can get on demand for free - for the kids Harry Potter - the Hobbit - Lord of the Rings etc.