Cole Snyder

Retired711

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Nov 20, 2001
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The old we should have kept a player because he's doing good against lesser competition then he'd face if he stayed if my answer to the implication being made by the OP.
Heck, just about every QB RU faced has been dubbed Johnny Unitas by many on this board and now we can add Cole to that list.as a lost Norm Van Brocklin .

I feel good that Snyder is having success as a Bull, but fear he'd not do so well as a Knight .
Evan might not be the Earl Morrall savior and more like Lee Grosscup so far, but I doubt Snyder would either in this RU offensive machine.
Cole might have just been a Don Heinrich type if he stayed.instead of a Bart Starr like some might want to imply
You must be as old as I am to be remembering Johnny Unitas and Norm Van Brocklin. The latter still holds the NFL record for most passing yards in a game.
 
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LotusAggressor_rivals

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I look at it different- Why the flaming F- can we not find a QB in 8 years?????
Evaluation, acquisition, and development. Everybody gets excited about the first 2. The failure is in the development. The bad QB play at RU for nearly a decade is a coaching problem. That's why the answer at QB has always either transferred or is in high school. Of the last 11 OCs RU has had, Friedgen was the only one who actually taught the position. It's no coincidence that Nova was the last competent QB at RU.
 

Doctor Worm

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The old we should have kept a player because he's doing good against lesser competition then he'd face if he stayed if my answer to the implication being made by the OP.
Heck, just about every QB RU faced has been dubbed Johnny Unitas by many on this board and now we can add Cole to that list.as a lost Norm Van Brocklin .

I feel good that Snyder is having success as a Bull, but fear he'd not do so well as a Knight .
Evan might not be the †offensive machine.
Cole might have just been a Don Heinrich type if he stayed.instead of a Bart Starr like some might want to imply
Are there no analogies which might be a tad more current?
 

Retired711

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Evaluation, acquisition, and development. Everybody gets excited about the first 2. The failure is in the development. The bad QB play at RU for nearly a decade is a coaching problem. That's why the answer at QB has always either transferred or is in high school. Of the last 11 OCs RU has had, Friedgen was the only one who actually taught the position. It's no coincidence that Nova was the last competent QB at RU.
My guess --it's just my guess -- is that playing QB is much different in college than in high school. In high school, a QB can succeed with a big arm alone. A college QB needs a big arm (that's Vedral's weakness), but also needs to go through progressions, understand a complex offense, and know when to throw the ball away. So it's no surprise to me that it's hard to evaluate and develop QBs. But what do I know?
 

LotusAggressor_rivals

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The old we should have kept a player because he's doing good against lesser competition then he'd face if he stayed if my answer to the implication being made by the OP.
Heck, just about every QB RU faced has been dubbed Johnny Unitas by many on this board and now we can add Cole to that list.as a lost Norm Van Brocklin .

I feel good that Snyder is having success as a Bull, but fear he'd not do so well as a Knight .
Evan might not be the Earl Morrall savior and more like Lee Grosscup so far, but I doubt Snyder would either in this RU offensive machine.
Cole might have just been a Don Heinrich type if he stayed.instead of a Bart Starr like some might want to imply
How old are you?
 
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mildone_rivals

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Ha. I rigged the ballots, got the homecoming queen elected and then made out with her.

That's winning, son.
It's... something. We need to see pics to know if it was winning or not. I mean, what if she had a mole or pointy elbows or something? 😉
 

NickRU714

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I almost made out with the homecoming queen.



Love this song.
Great pull.

Whoa. Listening this version now.

They edited out "almost got drunk at school when I was 14".
But left in "lost out to a slut with much bigger breastes". WTF??
 

NickRU714

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Evaluation, acquisition, and development. Everybody gets excited about the first 2. The failure is in the development. The bad QB play at RU for nearly a decade is a coaching problem. That's why the answer at QB has always either transferred or is in high school. Of the last 11 OCs RU has had, Friedgen was the only one who actually taught the position. It's no coincidence that Nova was the last competent QB at RU.

We keep hiring for "recruiting" and not "coaching".

Everyone did backflips because we signed the "Rivals Top NJ QB" - Jonathon Lewis.
Then OC Kill/McNulty make him a TE within a year?


Is that a miss by Rivals?
By Kill/McNulty.
Both?
But yet we still cheer every February for the next savior via recruiting rankings.
 

mildone_rivals

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Alcoholism bad. Slut shaming and objectification good.
I mean, I'm not sure saying she has big boobs is shaming her, exactly. But yeah, the word "slut" has all these negative connotations for most people.

It's a massive a double-standard, often rooted in intense jealousy, and based on a highly repressed Victorian viewpoint. Slut shaming is basically a societal brain fart.

Life is short. Sex is healthy, fun and free. People should be having lots more of it.
 

Retired711

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Old enough to remember Charlie Conerly and be alive when he became the NY Giant's starting QB.
But Beaced has me beat by being around when RU played it's first game
which means you remember the sudden-death game with the Baltimore Colts. I was a kid in Queens -- the game was blacked out in New York City.
 
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LotusAggressor_rivals

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We keep hiring for "recruiting" and not "coaching".

Everyone did backflips because we signed the "Rivals Top NJ QB" - Jonathon Lewis.
Then OC Kill/McNulty make him a TE within a year?


Is that a miss by Rivals?
By Kill/McNulty.
Both?
But yet we still cheer every February for the next savior via recruiting rankings.
Lewis wasn't the first. D.C. Jefferson was a HS QB that was also converted into a TE. There will always be plenty of fairy dust to sprinkle on QB recruits.
 

Anteid

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you started this thread with:
"6/8 for 115 yards in first quarter against Bowling Green today. 4 runs for 26 yards.
2022 stats 109/181 (60.2%) 1214 yards 8 TDs, 3 INT, 3 Rushing TDS and 85 yards rushing.
He's no good."
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I said in one of my replies in this thread : "Like I said, glad Cole is doing well at Buffalo.
But I also realize the Bulls don't face the same type of competition Evan has been playing against..
Also when a RU player isn't playing up to snuff ,the usual we could have used so and so posts pop up about a player who left.
Your thread is just another message like that."
and I misinterpreted your message ???
Don't think so.
When Snyder left Galvin and Noah were healthy ,Evan was considered a third string..
So I'm not sure if another scholarship QB was an absolute need when Cole left..
But as it looks now you have a good point in saying one was needed.and I feel one should have been included when getting commits from the class of 2022.
Going portal for a QB for this year's roster seems like a good idea, but also raises the possibility of Simon moving on.
But the way Evan seems to b over-matched, the gamble of bringing in an experienced QB and causing Simon to depart looks like a good gamble because the QB position isn't producing this year.
I think Galvin would have left if we would have bought in a more polished QB , He definitely the future QB we need so I believe the coaches didn’t expect Noah to get hurt in practice but things happen and it’s not the end of the world .
 

Retired711

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I think Galvin would have left if we would have bought in a more polished QB , He definitely the future QB we need so I believe the coaches didn’t expect Noah to get hurt in practice but things happen and it’s not the end of the world .
You're far from the only poster who says that Gavin is "definitely the future QB we need." What is your basis for saying that? I'm not saying you and the others who say that are wrong: I just would like a better idea of why you and others think that way.
 

Knight Shift

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Buffalo up 24-7 on the fighting Don Browns of UMass at the half. Cole Snyder 12/15 for 174 yards and 2 TDs. 🤣
 

MADHAT1

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What's the backstory on Snyder?
Who recruited him and who let him leave?
my opinion is after 3 seasons Cole found himself falling in the depth chart, knew Gavin was being setup for the starters roll with Noah a bridge to that and felt for playing time leaving was his best option
 

Knight Shift

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my opinion is after 3 seasons Cole found himself falling in the depth chart, knew Gavin was being setup for the starters roll with Noah a bridge to that and felt for playing time leaving was his best option
My opinion, which I think I stated above, is the QB room would have been much stronger if Cole had stayed, and he would have likely rose above Simon. But we don't know how that would have worked out. But I agree with you it was his best option to leave. Just wonder who did the QB evaluations the last two seasons.
 
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MADHAT1

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On same level as Temple. How did that go?
well Temple beat the Minutemen 28-0 .
So I guess with this probable (24-7 as I post this with 8 minutes left in game) victory over UMass you are putting the Bulls on the same level as the Owls
Guess I can agree with that, but I feel Buffalo might be a little bit better
 

mdk02

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my opinion is after 3 seasons Cole found himself falling in the depth chart, knew Gavin was being setup for the starters roll with Noah a bridge to that and felt for playing time leaving was his best option

Reasonable. Can't count on #1 AND #2 getting hurt.
 

MADHAT1

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My opinion, which I think I stated above, is the QB room would have been much stronger if Cole had stayed, and he would have likely rose above Simon. But we don't know how that would have worked out. But I agree with you it was his best option to leave. Just wonder who did the QB evaluations the last two seasons.
I would guess it was Gleason, wasn't he the QB coach along with being HC ?
 

Knight Shift

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well Temple beat the Minutemen 28-0 .
So I guess with this probable (24-7 as I post this with 8 minutes left in game) victory over UMass you are putting the Bulls on the same level as the Owls
Guess I can agree with that, but I feel Buffalo might be a little bit better
Bulls are leading their division in the MAC. Temple and UMass are both hot messes right now. Bulls are not. They started off slowly, but they are rolling. Let's hope with the OC change, Rutgers does the same.
 

Knight Shift

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Buffalo up 34-7 with around 2 mins remaining.
Snyder done with 20/31 277 yds, 3 TDs and 2 INT. 1 INT was ugly, the other was nice play by UMass DB.

Zamar Wise from Newark (former RU recruit) in at QB for UMass. 1/5 passing, but his receivers have not helped him.

Maybe RU could get Zamar wise back. 😉
 

Pils86

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He was an Ash recruit and both Simon and Wimsatt were higher rated recruits and had more size so I think the coaches looked more on this than actual performance. He probably was our best qb last year and would be this year and we beat Neb if he was starting that game. He is playing at a lower level but has lower level OL blocking and receivers that are not as good, but he is getting it done.
 
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Doctor Worm

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my opinion is after 3 seasons Cole found himself falling in the depth chart, knew Gavin was being setup for the starters roll with Noah a bridge to that and felt for playing time leaving was his best option
Agree. To suggest that anyone is to blame for "letting him leave" is overly simplistic at best. No evidence that Snyder got "the talk". Not saying he didn't, just no evidence that he did.
 

Knight Shift

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Agree. To suggest that anyone is to blame for "letting him leave" is overly simplistic at best. No evidence that Snyder got "the talk". Not saying he didn't, just no evidence that he did.
No evidence either way.
Glad he found a functional offense to display his abilities. Nobody can say either way how he would have performed at RU had he stayed. BTW, Buffalo's HC is in his second year.