Surprised this hasn't been discussed or if it has I missed it...starting at exactly 40min in. 40min-44min here with particular interest to the last 20 seconds. I'll let everyone decipher what they take from it for themselves...
http://www.supertalk.fm/audio-archives/h2h-archives/?recording_id=26472
http://www.supertalk.fm/audio-archives/h2h-archives/?recording_id=26472