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TU_BLA

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Anthony Grant out at Alabama. Do we need to worry about a P5 school trying to poach Haith? Or does BAMA chase after White from LaTech. Ole Miss probably not open after they made the tournament this year.
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texcane1982

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Originally posted by TU_BLA:
Anthony Grant out at Alabama. Do we need to worry about a P5 school trying to poach Haith? Or does BAMA chase after White from LaTech. Ole Miss probably not open after they made the tournament this year.

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Based on Haith's contract and a driving force as to why he came to TU, I would say no. I would be shocked if he tortured himself taking over a program where Football is clearly #1, and in a conference such as the SEC. I would say the same for Mike White, who turned down Tennessee last April. The Tennessee basketball job is clearly a better job than Alabama.

IMO there is a greater chance of Grant ending up on the TU bench as an Asst., than Haith ending up on the Alabam bench as Head Coach.


TX
 

I.I.

Heisman
Dec 4, 2003
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Mike White and Bryce Drew back in high demand again. Haith no... ..not till there is some NCAA wins.. Manning was taken a lot due to being a celebrity in the basketball world....not just because we won a diluted C-USA tournament. Haith is far from a basketball celebrity.
 

Tulsafanzz

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I think White may leave now, if offer similar jobs to last season. La Tech's senior laden team still didn't get a bid. CUSA is a one bid, 14 team conference. As BLA said, Ole Miss made tourney, so Kennedy staying put. He should've left last year, I think he'll leave this year.
 

ctt8410

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Originally posted by I.I.:
Mike White and Bryce Drew back in high demand again.
Bobby Hurley and Brad Underwood as well. Lots of the same names as last year increased their stock.
 

Gold*

Heisman
Dec 3, 2003
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What jobs are open? Bama? White would be great at OSU, but a lot of teams with hot seat coaches made it. Hmmmm. . .
 

TU_BLA

Heisman
Mar 8, 2012
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Both Hurley's are fantastic coaches. Bobby at SUNY-Buffalo and his brother whose first name shall not be mentioned (or I can't remember it) has done an amazing job turning Rhode Island around in just a couple of years.

What is the likelihood Pastner gets canned at Memphis? Who would they go after? White seems a good choice and possible fit there. What about Ford? OSU can't fire him after making the tournament can they? Underwood there?

Honestly,mare there any P5 schools whose coaches are really in trouble? Texas Tech wouldn't fire Tubby a after 2 seasons would they? Underwood would be a fit there. This may be an odd year where the only P5 coaches that leave are going to the NBA. Many of the others found new coaches last year.
 

TU Sepp

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Feb 8, 2004
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With 18 victories osu and Ford are now indebted to OU and Castiglione for getting them into the Tourney...
 

mcane

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Dec 3, 2003
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primarily a football term to describe the conferences that are ruling the NCAA, the Power 5, by making their own rules and restricting access and opportunity to all other D-I programs. (my view- their view is confirming the reality of the gap that exists).

It is a dangerous trend for this to occur in basketball - it was clearly happening as a conference of one - the old Big East - due to ESPN early promotion. The American and the new Big East are not generally considered to be part of the basketball power elite (the same P5 as in football), but if you add the MWC and Atlantic 10, those 4 conferences are challenging the bottom of the P5 for prominence. The MVC appears to be moving to that group, but has really been top-heavy with Wichita, NIU and formerly Creighton.

The American can gain respect when Tulane, ECU, USF, Houston and UCF are 500 or better programs. There was a clear demarcation this year after Memphis - top 6 , bottom 5. And, per the NCAA, and to my surprise, a less clear demarcation of the top 2 (SMU and Cinncy), and next 4 (Temple, TU, UConn and Memphis). Having Memphis and UConn have subpar seasons, by their standards, hurt the American. TU could have helped the conference and itself by avoiding flops in ORU and SEOSU and by being more competitive with OSU, OU and Wichita. The wins over Auburn and Creighton looked good at the time but only so-so at the end of the season. Had Creighton been an NCAA team (and the win over OU made one think that might be the case, but the game here showed them to be slow) or Auburn a middle of the pack SEC team, it would have made a difference.
 

TU_BLA

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Our RPI actually got dragged down by Auburn and Creighton. The Auburn game was a tournament so no avoiding that. The Creighton game is a traditional MVC rivalry and it actually looked like a tough game coming into the season and here was no reasonable way that the game could have been foreseen as an RPI drag especially after Creighton's success last season.You keep playing those games IMO because they will not be drags every season.
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TU Man

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rip means little any more. out of conference and road wins and strength of conference are everything.

we had none of those three...
 

I.I.

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RPI is still very important. That is the leading indicator used by the committee used when looking at your 1-50 record and 51-100 record, etc...How to determine which teams are going to be 1-50 when you schedule is tough. You need to avoid the 1-10 teams because those are usually losses. Try to schedule a few 30-50 teams and hope they don't slip to 52 and the end. Strength of schedule seems more important but it is tough for TU to get home and home with teams that help the SOS.

It almost comes down to the Puerto Rico Tournament, Las Vegas Tournaments, etc that ,make or break the bubble like it did in 2001.

Some think the ORU game cost us a bid. I actually think it was the OSU game in Las Vegas and the Cincy game at home.
This post was edited on 3/17 8:18 AM by I.I.
 

TU_BLA

Heisman
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Originally posted by TU Man:
rip means little any more. out of conference and road wins and strength of conference are everything.

we had none of those three...
We were 7-2 on the road in conference, 0-2 non-conference, 1-1 neutral non-conference. Again, the ORU loss hurt TU the absolute most in terms of tangible measurements this year. SEOSU was a visual loss only. Even the team sheet handed to committee members hides it at the very bottom. Strength of conference had a couple of issues...TU didn't win any of the games that could have helped and the other games that conference members did win were not as strong as initially perceived or thought they might when initially scheduled (Creighton for us, Florida for UCONN, San Diego St for Cincinnati, and the list goes on). You can't predict that a team that was within a whisper of the Sweet Sixteen last year was going to tank this year (Creighton).
 

pinaction_rivals

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Originally posted by I.I.:

RPI is still very important. That is the leading indicator used by the committee used when looking at your 1-50 record and 51-100 record, etc...How to determine which teams are going to be 1-50 when you schedule is tough. You need to avoid the 1-10 teams because those are usually losses. Try to schedule a few 30-50 teams and hope they don't slip to 52 and the end. Strength of schedule seems more important but it is tough for TU to get home and home with teams that help the SOS.

It almost comes down to the Puerto Rico Tournament, Las Vegas Tournaments, etc that ,make or break the bubble like it did in 2001.

Some think the ORU game cost us a bid. I actually think it was the OSU game in Las Vegas and the Cincy game at home.
This post was edited on 3/17 8:18 AM by I.I.
I tend to agree that the committee uses whatever gets the most P5 teams in. I mean Texas was iffy, but imo UCLA was one of the worst decisions any committee has ever made.
 

pinaction_rivals

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Originally posted by I.I.:

RPI is still very important. That is the leading indicator used by the committee used when looking at your 1-50 record and 51-100 record, etc...How to determine which teams are going to be 1-50 when you schedule is tough. You need to avoid the 1-10 teams because those are usually losses. Try to schedule a few 30-50 teams and hope they don't slip to 52 and the end. Strength of schedule seems more important but it is tough for TU to get home and home with teams that help the SOS.

It almost comes down to the Puerto Rico Tournament, Las Vegas Tournaments, etc that ,make or break the bubble like it did in 2001.

Some think the ORU game cost us a bid. I actually think it was the OSU game in Las Vegas and the Cincy game at home.
This post was edited on 3/17 8:18 AM by I.I.
I tend to agree that the committee uses whatever gets the most P5 teams in. I mean Texas was iffy, but imo UCLA was one of the worst decisions any committee has ever made.
 

pinaction_rivals

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Figures, SMU would make me eat my words on UCLA.


Although that was a bad goal tending call.
This post was edited on 3/19 4:26 PM by pinaction
 

Steve Zissou

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Originally posted by pinaction:
Figures, SMU would make me eat my words on UCLA.
Awful last shot by UCLA. If the SMU dude is on offense and catches it as an alley hoop there is no way it gets called as goal tending.
 

TU_BLA

Heisman
Mar 8, 2012
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Rick Ray out at Mississippi State. How cute is that all these SEC teams thinking they're basketball schools. Let Kentucky carry the basketball and the rest of you try to hold up that faux notion of SEC football just being better than everyone else
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TU_BLA

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Forgot about them and I like Billy Donovan. Grew up watching Providence and that '86-87 team was one of the magical teams without any superstars except for the coach. Sort of like TU's 2000 team.
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TU_BLA

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Just saw a tweet that says DePaul is targeting Dave Leitao as HC. We'll see. DePaul is a dumpster fire inside of a chemical dump inside of a nuclear reactor meltdown.
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dmarsh1985

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Like Leiato, but kinda seems that we need a younger gun..who might hit it off with recruiting..? Have to wait and see
 

I.I.

Heisman
Dec 4, 2003
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Originally posted by dmarsh1985:
Like Leiato, but kinda seems that we need a younger gun..who might hit it off with recruiting..? Have to wait and see
Hope Dave gets it. Great guy.
 

Tu Geo

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Originally posted by Steve Zissou:
Originally posted by pinaction:
Figures, SMU would make me eat my words on UCLA.
Awful last shot by UCLA. If the SMU dude is on offense and catches it as an alley hoop there is no way it gets called as goal tending.
North Carolina State beat Houston on a shot just like that for the National Championship.

GO TU!!!
 

TU_BLA

Heisman
Mar 8, 2012
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Originally posted by Tu Geo:

Originally posted by Steve Zissou:
Originally posted by pinaction:
Figures, SMU would make me eat my words on UCLA.
Awful last shot by UCLA. If the SMU dude is on offense and catches it as an alley hoop there is no way it gets called as goal tending.
North Carolina State beat Houston on a shot just like that for the National Championship.

GO TU!!!
NCSt won that game before goaltending was a rule the way we know it today. Moreira doesn't get called for goaltending on that play back then.
 

TU_BLA

Heisman
Mar 8, 2012
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Just to keep this going with updates of mid-major to P5 openings of consequence. Tennessee fired Donnie Tyndall today with cause because the NCAA is likely to levy some serious personal sanctions on Tyndall, not just So. Miss. Also, just announced was that Steve Lavin is leaving St. John's. It's odd because I believe just a day or 2 ago both sides announced agreement on an extension.

Just tweeted, 247 sports is saying Barnes not expected to return to Texas. First announcement. There was some speculation about it but this is the first time we've heard anything outside of speculation. Let the rat race begin.
 

TulsaAM

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Originally posted by TU_BLA:
Just saw a tweet that says DePaul is targeting Dave Leitao as HC. We'll see. DePaul is a dumpster fire inside of a chemical dump inside of a nuclear reactor meltdown.
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So, to be clear, you are saying DePaul is a bad place? LOL
 

lawpoke87

Heisman
Dec 17, 2002
166,351
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TU_BLA posted on 3/27/2015...


Just tweeted, 247 sports is saying Barnes not expected to return to Texas. First announcement. There was some speculation about it but this is the first time we've heard anything outside of speculation. Let the rat race begin.______________________________

The Shockers just got nervous.
 

ctt8410

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Steve Prohm gets a raise and extension that pays him 500k per year until 2020.
 

TU_BLA

Heisman
Mar 8, 2012
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Originally posted by TulsaAM:

Originally posted by TU_BLA:
Just saw a tweet that says DePaul is targeting Dave Leitao as HC. We'll see. DePaul is a dumpster fire inside of a chemical dump inside of a nuclear reactor meltdown.
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So, to be clear, you are saying DePaul is a bad place? LOL
Yes, yes I am. The last time DePaul was relevant in men's basketball is when a Meyer was coaching.
 

texcane1982

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Originally posted by lawpoke87:
TU_BLA posted on 3/27/2015...


Just tweeted, 247 sports is saying Barnes not expected to return to Texas. First announcement. There was some speculation about it but this is the first time we've heard anything outside of speculation. Let the rat race begin.______________________________

The Shockers just got nervous.
agree

Marshall, Baker, and Van Vleet are a packaged deal. If they declare for the NBA draft, Marshall leaves, or if he leaves they will declare for the draft.

An opportunity like Texas does not come open very often, Barnes only took Texas to 1 final 4 but he was there for over 10 years. This opportunity would give Marshall unlimited resources, a plush job in a power conference that is not full of tradition rich schools like the ACC or Big Ten.

IMO the best jobs to have in the current Big 12 are...........

[facilities, budget, fan/booster support, national branding, and tradition]


1. Kansas
2. Texas
3. Iowa State
4. Oklahoma State
5. Baylor
6. Oklahoma
7. West Virginia
8. Kansas State
9. TCU
10. Texas Tech


Just my opinion.


TX
 

TU_BLA

Heisman
Mar 8, 2012
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TX, I's flip flop OU and Baylor. Baylor's emergence in $ sports is a recent thing, like 2004 or later for both Football and basketball. Women's basketball and baseball are different. Back when I worked at Baylor students and alumni went to games but no one else went. OU's traditions and support far exceed Baylor and the Ferrell Center is not really any better or worse than the OU hole in the ground.
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PhoggyBottom

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1. Kansas
2. Texas
3. OU
4. ISU
5. OSU
6. Baylor
7. West Virginia
8. TCU
9. KSU
10. TTech

Marshall will leave either this summer or next. He is not going to wait around and see what happens when Baker and VanVleet leave.

This post was edited on 3/27 11:30 PM by PhoggyBottom