Coaches taking the blame

ZaneHickey

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I understand why they do, but, sometimes, protecting players that simply make some really bad plays (happens in sports) is cringeworthy.
 

mgbreeze

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I understand why they do, but, sometimes, protecting players that simply make some really bad plays (happens in sports) is cringeworthy.y
My personal leader for a Rhule-ism that is wearing thin is how he answers tough questions (aka why TF were you throwing on third and goal with Purdy?) with "we were trying to win the game." No **** Coach?
 
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I understand why they do, but, sometimes, protecting players that simply make some really bad plays (happens in sports) is cringeworthy.
Well, they' deal with those players in a different way. Rather than resorting to public blame/embarrassment they'll handle it privately out of the public spotlight. They'll coach them some more IF they think it's correctible or one-time. IF they think it's a fundamental issue, they'll encourage them to leave via the portal. And IMO, that's the best approach for the culture they want to instill. Now in contrast, Coach Prime has a totally different approach called: throw them under the bus.
 

ZaneHickey

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Well, they' deal with those players in a different way. Rather than resorting to public blame/embarrassment they'll handle it privately out of the public spotlight. They'll coach them some more IF they think it's correctible or one-time. IF they think it's a fundamental issue, they'll encourage them to leave via the portal. And IMO, that's the best approach for the culture they want to instill. Now in contrast, Coach Prime has a totally different approach called: throw them under the bus.
Coach Osborne used to always say, "we just have to execute better". It is a weird time in college sports. Kids get the commitment/personal hype videos...NIL dough...but have to have the egos (the adults have built up, in many cases) protected. Just a strange dynamic these days, IMO.
 

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We need to be able to pass the ball to win. Coaches can do so much but D1 qbs should make these throws. Didn't rhule say in the presser the goaline int was supposed to be a run?
 

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As they should, they had three different QBs in there yesterday and the result was the same.
They brought in Sims and they need to accept the responsibility for that. Unfortunately Scott was freaking worthless as a head coach and his staff sucked balls and they didn’t recruit for ****. These are the players we are stuck with for the rest of the year. Let’s see if we can bring in much better offensive players. All positions.
 

Yantzeee

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Don’t understand why so many people on this board will except the saying:

“Not the offensive staffs fault, they have a lot of inexperienced players on offense.”

But a lot of those same people won’t except the saying:

“Not the offensive players fault, they have a lot of inexperienced coaches”.

You know both are true and why we have such a shitstorm going on offense
 

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Don’t understand why so many people on this board will except the saying:

“Not the offensive staffs fault, they have a lot of inexperienced players on offense.”

But a lot of those same people won’t except the saying:

“Not the offensive players fault, they have a lot of inexperienced coaches”.

You know both are true and why we have such a shitstorm going on offense
Just like Sims had a prior history of turnovers Satterfield has a history of inept offenses.
 

61bigredfan

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Yantzee, That’s a fair take. I am most mystified why Sims appears to be unteachable. HH has had limited coaching (especially his throwing motion), and Had his ankles wrapped before the injury, which may have contributed to his issues, so I get that. Sims seems to have all the tools, but hasn’t improved at all.
Maybe Chubba can take us over the 6 win deal?
 

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We need to be able to pass the ball to win. Coaches can do so much but D1 qbs should make these throws. Didn't rhule say in the presser the goaline int was supposed to be a run?
No that was the first play

It is the coaches fault. This loss lies solely with Satt and the head man. They make a lot of money to be making boneheaded decisions. No excuses
 

mgbreeze

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Don’t understand why so many people on this board will except the saying:

“Not the offensive staffs fault, they have a lot of inexperienced players on offense.”

But a lot of those same people won’t except the saying:

“Not the offensive players fault, they have a lot of inexperienced coaches”.

You know both are true and why we have such a shitstorm going on offense
Both are true, but a competent QB would make all of it look a hell of a lot better.
 
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People are going to b1tch about him no matter what he says after the game. There's no good answer because you just lost and people are going to be angry.

His responses aren't really for the fans, they're for his players. Better to take accountability for your squad and ahve their back than throw players under the bus when you are trying to get their best effort.
 

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More than one thing can be true. The coaches are making mistakes/questionable decisions. It happens. They always will until the end of time.

The players are executing poorly in many cases. It happens. That will also be true until the end of time.

Someone has to play QB. Each choice is riddled with limitations and question marks.
 

oldjar07

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We need to be able to pass the ball to win. Coaches can do so much but D1 qbs should make these throws. Didn't rhule say in the presser the goaline int was supposed to be a run?
Exactly, our QB's don't even look capable of making HS level reads in the passing game right now. I've never seen an offense at Nebraska look as inept as this year, and that's 100% on the coaching staff for not finding a real QB to put on the roster.
 

HuskerBruce81

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We need to be able to pass the ball to win. Coaches can do so much but D1 qbs should make these throws. Didn't rhule say in the presser the goaline int was supposed to be a run?
Running all 3 plays, burning clock and kicking the fg probably would have won the game. So no, we didn't need to pass the ball there to win. Also, we don't have the tools for a passing game. Most passes should be set up by prior running plays. Rhule is the one who blew smoke up our asses about complimentary football this season and he was full of ****.
Just like Sims had a prior history of turnovers Satterfield has a history of inept offenses.
Satterfield's inept offenses have a history of turnovers as well. Combining Sims, Satterfield and Nebraska's recent history of dipshittery turnovers was probably a terrible idea in hindsight.

 

dinglefritz

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We need to be able to pass the ball to win. Coaches can do so much but D1 qbs should make these throws. Didn't rhule say in the presser the goaline int was supposed to be a run?
No. The first down play was supposed to be a plain handoff but the call got screwed up.
 

HuskerO58

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My personal leader for a Rhule-ism that is wearing thin is how he answers tough questions (aka why TF were you throwing on third and goal with Purdy?) with "we were trying to win the game." No **** Coach?
Because when he gives us straight answers, you have posters crying a week later, "Rhule lied to us."

It doesn't matter what he says, people somewhere will pick it apart & complain.
 

meo1960

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Don’t understand why so many people on this board will except the saying:

“Not the offensive staffs fault, they have a lot of inexperienced players on offense.”

But a lot of those same people won’t except the saying:

“Not the offensive players fault, they have a lot of inexperienced coaches”.

You know both are true and why we have such a shitstorm going on offense
It is curious that DC White has made an immediate positive impact on defense while OC Satts side of the ball has been a huge ClusterFu_ _ all year.
 

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One of the biggest problems is no one, I mean no one on offense is learning from their mistakes.

I think our OC/QB coach is who he is and I doubt he will improve at Nebraska. His past results are below average at best. Gonna be a long 2 or 3 years until we get rid if him.
 

HuskerO58

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Exactly, our QB's don't even look capable of making HS level reads in the passing game right now. I've never seen an offense at Nebraska look as inept as this year, and that's 100% on the coaching staff for not finding a real QB to put on the roster.
Pretty sure another poster went through what was available at the time and how those transfers are all working out.

Only a 10% success rate on transfer QBs being any good. That shows it's not nearly as easy as you're making it out to be.
 
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Coach Osborne used to always say, "we just have to execute better". It is a weird time in college sports. Kids get the commitment/personal hype videos...NIL dough...but have to have the egos (the adults have built up, in many cases) protected. Just a strange dynamic these days, IMO.
Sure ego is involved, but I simply call it treating players with dignity. What's to be gained by publicly humiliating someone. In fact it hurts future recruiting. And don't forget these are still kids for the most part not seasoned old adults.
 

ZaneHickey

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Sure ego is involved, but I simply call it treating players with dignity. What's to be gained by publicly humiliating someone. In fact it hurts future recruiting. And don't forget these are still kids for the most part not seasoned old adults.
I get what you're saying. It just seems weird to me that sometimes the most obvious player mistakes, being taken on by a coach is awkward. I thought TO's approach was non-specific and factual - and didn't involve a bus.

Ultimately, this won't bother me for long. I got the Wordle in 2 today. 😎 Where's my NIL $$!!
 

oldjar07

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Pretty sure another poster went through what was available at the time and how those transfers are all working out.

Only a 10% success rate on transfer QBs being any good. That shows it's not nearly as easy as you're making it out to be.
I know what poster you're talking about and he has a history of embellishing things, and his criteria for a 10% success rate was lacking in the reasoning department. If you compared these transfer players to what we have at the qb position now on our roster as a measure of success, you'd have closer to an 80% success rate.
 

dinglefritz

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It is curious that DC White has made an immediate positive impact on defense while OC Satts side of the ball has been a huge ClusterFu_ _ all year.
The DC doesn’t have to rely on QBs. He also doesn’t have to worry about his players giving the ball away.
 

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I like Matt Rhule, this is not a criticism of him it’s just a obvious analysis. We should with out question be 8 & 2, we aren’t because of the coaching. Look at these last few games. Does anyone believe for one minute that Raiola would be playing these linemen had his starters not gotten hurt, these younger linemen are playing 25% better! As a team we’ve only had one penalty in two games. With out question, in the last three games Rhule has had more confidence in Alvano then any of our quarterbacks, yet we choose to trust them more inside the thirty more than Tristan. Johnson and Grant have been hitting almost five yards a carry. Johnson is averaging 75 yds a game, yet Satterfield goes to the interception prone quarterbacks, 14 interception vs 8 touchdowns.

On fourth and short, inside the thirty all day long and next week, every NFL coach worth his salt would take a field goal, go with Alvano! Satterfield said all week, “Haarberg needs to get back to basics and just run through their face”. So when Haarberg comes out of the medical tent and says he’s ready, Satterfield says “no”. It wasn’t the medical team that held him out. You don’t want to play someone hurt but how does he prove his metal?

MR says he wants to be the team that wins the fourth quarter, three games we lost in the fourth, Minnesota, MSU and Maryland. Go back to your gut check and rely on the players that have proven themselves, there’s only a couple. Take the play calling out of Satterfields hands in the fourth quarter and go with ball security and points. We can win these last two, take the fourth quarter into your own hands.
 

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Coach Osborne used to always say, "we just have to execute better". It is a weird time in college sports. Kids get the commitment/personal hype videos...NIL dough...but have to have the egos (the adults have built up, in many cases) protected. Just a strange dynamic these days, IMO.
As I recall (and my memory is fading) Osborne used to say stuff like "we just have to execute better". BUT....he often dropped a little aside that let you know what he was thinking, without throwing anyone under the bus directly. Such as:

We could have been in better defenses sometimes (McBride)

We need to be more accurate passing (QB)

We could have held blocks longer (O-line)

We let a few receivers get by us (DBs)

Sometimes we didn't have the right play called (himself)

If you didn't listen to him all the time and/or didn't listen closely his PCs sounded like standard coachspeak. But he actually said quite a lot.
 

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Running all 3 plays, burning clock and kicking the fg probably would have won the game. So no, we didn't need to pass the ball there to win. Also, we don't have the tools for a passing game. Most passes should be set up by prior running plays. Rhule is the one who blew smoke up our asses about complimentary football this season and he was full of ****.

Satterfield's inept offenses have a history of turnovers as well. Combining Sims, Satterfield and Nebraska's recent history of dipshittery turnovers was probably a terrible idea in hindsight.


I felt on our last series with first and goal at the 5 we didn't play to win. Playing to win for this team is three straight power runs. We played to lose by throwing. All year long we throw picks in the end zone when we are close.
 

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I felt on our last series with first and goal at the 5 we didn't play to win. Playing to win for this team is three straight power runs. We played to lose by throwing. All year long we throw picks in the end zone when we are close.
For all the talk about our OL there was at least a dozen plays were they moved Maryland’s line five yards off the line of scrimmage.
 

ZaneHickey

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As I recall (and my memory is fading) Osborne used to say stuff like "we just have to execute better". BUT....he often dropped a little aside that let you know what he was thinking, without throwing anyone under the bus directly. Such as:

We could have been in better defenses sometimes (McBride)

We need to be more accurate passing (QB)

We could have held blocks longer (O-line)

We let a few receivers get by us (DBs)

Sometimes we didn't have the right play called (himself)

If you didn't listen to him all the time and/or didn't listen closely his PCs sounded like standard coachspeak. But he actually said quite a lot.
Bingo.
 

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Exactly, our QB's don't even look capable of making HS level reads in the passing game right now. I've never seen an offense at Nebraska look as inept as this year, and that's 100% on the coaching staff for not finding a real QB to put on the roster.
they needed to find 3. Injuries happen
 

huskercabby

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Coach Osborne used to always say, "we just have to execute better". It is a weird time in college sports. Kids get the commitment/personal hype videos...NIL dough...but have to have the egos (the adults have built up, in many cases) protected. Just a strange dynamic these days, IMO.
Very strange indeed! My feelings. You can't have it both ways! You can't be put up on a pedestal and paid more money than the average fan makes. Then play just down right bad and not have any consequences. It's not right!
This is not going to turn out well.
 

Kakdawg

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I understand why they do, but, sometimes, protecting players that simply make some really bad plays (happens in sports) is cringeworthy.

Yeah it's a fine line. Imo the coaches or RHULE has realized all our QBs are ***. So he's in protect mode right now trying his best to get the most out of whoever he puts out there. The worse thing he could do would be to "throw" one of the QBs knowing he may need that guy and also knowing that guy (whoever it is) sucks.

One thing when you have a guy who you KNOW is better than he's performing. Whole different thing when they all suck and you know there is really nothing you can do but just try and keep whoever engaged and confident.

However spot to be in as a coach.




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