Coach suspended after beating a team 161-2.....

AlCoDog

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I'm not saying the bench players should not try or play like a retard.

A little friendly advice, for someone who seems concerned about people's feelings, and setting a good example for youth. Probably not the best choice of words to go around using.
 

olblue.sixpack

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Couple of points.

The winning team has won most of their games by wide margins. None 150+ but some really big blowouts. The game following the suspension they won 85-15. The losing team has lost every game. None by 150. But by about an average score of 60-10.

From a competitive standpoint it seems this year's Olive Branch VS a MAIS 1A.

The three problems I have.
1. This isn't a league game so how in the blue hell did it get scheduled? Repeat not a league game. With that fact, how did it not get called off.
2. The board has set an precedent. But where is the line in the sand? We know 161-2. What about 100-10? 75-4? A football game thats 84-7? They have passed down a punishment that is purely subjective.
3. Why were you pressing after midway 1st quarter if at all?

3 is the best question of all. Some might say maybe that's the only style they know how to play. I would say it's pretty easy to call time out and tell them to pack in a 2-3 zone.
 

patdog

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I've got no problem with the 85-15 or 60-10 games. Or with the 112-32 beatdown UGA put on our women's team. Point #1 is the most relevant. Why in the hell was this game even played?
 

FlotownDawg

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I only used that word because the person I was replying to had used it to describe the way the players should theoretically play. I don't go around using that word.
 

thekimmer

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Couple of points.

From a competitive standpoint it seems this year's Olive Branch VS a MAIS 1A.

The three problems I have.

2. The board has set an precedent. But where is the line in the sand? We know 161-2. What about 100-10? 75-4? A football game thats 84-7? They have passed down a punishment that is purely subjective.

I suppose its kind of like Potter Stewart's comment about pornography. He said it is difficult to define but you know it when you see it.
 

msstate7

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Who was responsible for scheduling the game? Suspend them.

The backups for the winning team may never get to play. Pretty crappy to not let them play their best
 

LawDawg97

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I think his use of the word was more in the Michael Scott sense

A little friendly advice, for someone who seems concerned about people's feelings, and setting a good example for youth. Probably not the best choice of words to go around using.



And was in reply to someone else that used it.
 

FlotownDawg

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The team won their next game 80-19. I'm sure the back ups get to play a lot. I do agree that this game should never have been scheduled. Irresponsible on the part of the coaches or whoever scheduled the game to let it be played. But once it is played, the coach of the winning team has a responsibility to call off the dogs once the score gets out of hand. It doesn't mean the backups just dribble around for 10 minutes and never take a shot. They can play the game they normally would with the exception of a running a half court trap defense. That is unfair to the other team that is so badly outmatched. It's about having sportsmanship and showing mercy to a team that is clearly inferior in every way.
 

SSBGDog

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I'll say this...most adults are way more concerned with their kids' self esteem than the kids are. My HS basket coach got fired after my freshman year. I was shocked. I didn't realize we had only won 3 games that season. I didn't care either. My self esteem did come from my ability to shoot or dribble. My guess is that neither is that the case with these girls.
 

jacksonreb

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at some point, enough is enough...

it is the other teams job to stop them but past a certain point the guy is just being an a**hole. i'm glad they suspended him


In this case, yes. That game should have never been scheduled. But at some point, you really should call off the dogs. Running half-court traps against a clearly outmanned team when your up by 100 is ridiculous.
 

FlotownDawg

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I agree that he should have stood up for his players more

and threatened to pull his players off the court unless the other team stopped pressing. I know a guy who coaches boys basketball at a small 1A school and he was in a similar situation. They were playing a much larger school that was really good and liked to press a lot. He said he didn't mind it during the first half, but at halftime the other team was up by about 40 or 50 points. They start the second half and the other team goes into their press. He immediately calls a timeout and stares down the other coach. They start to play again, the other team presses again, and he calls another timeout. After he burned his third time out in a row, the other coach finally got the message and stopped pressing. The coach told me if he had burned through all of his timeouts and the other team continued to press, he would have pulled his players off the court. That's what this coach might should have done. However, there may be a fine or some discipline that goes along with forfeiting a game that he didn't want to deal with.
 

Knoxdog55

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Wait a minute. A coach's team wins 161-2? Is the coach interested in moving up to men's basketball? Will he move to Starkville?
 

elsid76

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This is why run limits are used in youth and sometimes even college baseball. As a kid my team scored 20 runs in one inning.
Due to time limit the game went only 2 innings and we won 25-2, using a kid in the second inning who just wanted to pitch.
There should be a way to do this sort of thing in basketball too.
 

msstate7

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Wait a minute. A coach's team wins 161-2? Is the coach interested in moving up to men's basketball? Will he move to Starkville?

My sources say the coach will be forced to help ray's staff. School officials say this will make him more sympathetic to the teams getting pounded*
 

patdog

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The rule in Alabama at least is that once a team gets up by a certain amount in the second half, the clock doesn't stop for free throws, fouls, out of bounds, etc. I think it's something like when a team goes up by 30, the clock runs continuously and doesn't stop unless the lead is cut to 20.
 

Dawg1976

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I think punishment was warranted. Team scored 104 points in the first half leaving the starters in playing a full-court trap the entire half! They backed off in the second half playing the bench and only using a half-court trap (what sportsmen).

Shouldn't school officials, refs, the other coach bear some responsibility too?

The other thing though is how in the world is it possible to have that much of a talent differential?

Link

I bet the winning coach was pissed he gave up the 2 points.
 

Hump4Hoops

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40-0 at the half is not an apt comparison.

It would be more like 70-0 at half. At that point, anything more than our last team trying to eat up minutes offensively.

Defensively is completely different. Shutouts in football are commonplace. Not in basketball.
 

DAWG61

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161 points!! How's that even possible? Damn the other team sucks. Haha how many turnovers did they have? A hundred?
 

QuaoarsKing

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Maybe they should've gone to a running clock once the winners got up by 50? That would have sped up the game without the stigma of a forfeit. Run the clock during free throws, out of bonds balls, even timeouts and quarter breaks, etc.

Also, has there been any explanation of why this game was scheduled in the first place?
 

archdog

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Good grief. I coach my kids in baseball, basketball, and soccer and I stress sportsmanship. I don't coach because I am a legend in my own mind, but because it gives me a chance to be involved with my kids and their interests. We've had our asses kicked plenty. Sounds to me like based on the posts in this thread, it's easy to tell who the overly sensitive hall monitors are.

Bet you never got beat 162-2 by an ******* calling for a trap every play. 162-2 is just being an *******. That guy does not deserve to be suspended, he deserves to get the **** kicked out of him.
 
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