Coach JoMo on SEC Media Days

[DawgsOnTheWing]

Just watched Moorhead's session on SEC Media Days. Really like what I see/hear in this guy. Hope the on-field results are even more impressive. One thing he reminded us of stings, though......1 winning record in the SEC in 15 years. That's got to change.

 

[ShrubDog]

It’s probably on my end but I cannot find any of the press conference. Nothing on SECN or youtube right now.

 

[Hoo22]

http://www.espn.com/watch/player?id=3388613

Moorhead comes on around 4:45

 

[campshelbydog842003]

I’ve heard Moorhead say the 1 time in 15 years thing multiple times now. Am I the only one that sees that as a subtle jab at Mullen?

 

[GloryDawg]

It’s probably on my end but I cannot find any of the press conference. Nothing on SECN or youtube right now.

 

[saltslugs]

I’ve heard Moorhead say the 1 time in 15 years thing multiple times now. Am I the only one that sees that as a subtle jab at Mullen?

I don't think that's his point. Mullen wasn't even the coach for many of those years.

He's simply re-aligning our expectations so that we aren't upset when we go 6-6 this year (jk).

 

[MeridianDog]

I’ve heard Moorhead say the 1 time in 15 years thing multiple times now. Am I the only one that sees that as a subtle jab at Mullen?

I think he is a speak the truth kind of guy, with no smoke to blow up anyone's ***. What he said was the truth. If it hurts the old coach's feelings, it just does,

 

[MSUDawgFan86]

I’ve heard Moorhead say the 1 time in 15 years thing multiple times now. Am I the only one that sees that as a subtle jab at Mullen?

Heh Nope you’re not the only one. I love when he brings it up because his focus is to do better than .500 in Conference. I also love it for the idiots last year who got on their knees in front of Mullen and called him “the 2nd best coach in the SEC.” It was hilarious then and it’s even funnier now. I would say he’s the 5th best coach in the SEC behind Saban, Kirby, Malzahn, Jimbo. He’ll be 6th after this season because Moorhead will surpass him after he actually coaches some games.

 

[patdog]

Without listening to the whole thing, what is the 1 time in 15 years thing?

 

[FQDawg]

Without listening to the whole thing, what is the 1 time in 15 years thing?

That we've only had a winning record in SEC play one time in the last 15 years. Every other year we've been 4-4 or worse.

 

[patdog]

It's actually 1 in 17 years then. In the modern SEC West, you have to have a hell of a football team to have a winning SEC record.

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

I’ve heard Moorhead say the 1 time in 15 years thing multiple times now. Am I the only one that sees that as a subtle jab at Mullen?

I think he’s saying we still have work to do. Everybody praises Mullen for what he did and what he’s left, rightfully so, but we can do better still. I think that’s what he means.

 

[wtw2400]

It's actually 1 in 17 years then. In the modern SEC West, you have to have a hell of a football team to have a winning SEC record.

LSU went 6-2 in 2017 and lost to Troy. I would have to imagine we're dead last in the last 15 years in winning SEC seasons.

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

It's actually 1 in 17 years then. In the modern SEC West, you have to have a hell of a football team to have a winning SEC record.

hell LSU went 6-2 last year. It’s hard but 5-3 every few years shouldn’t be unreachable like it’s been for Mullen.

 

[MarkDallas]

I've loved the things he's said since he was hired. But I've listened to Moorhead, Green, & McLaurin so far from media days and been unimpressed. It doesn't matter... I'd much rather perform on the field than win the press conference. But so far, everything has been flat, canned answers.

 

[HuskyBDawg]

Mississippi State has had five 4-4 seasons and one 6-2 season in fifteen years. In the past, I have heard even (4-4) seasons described as "winning," although that is not typical today. MSU has had at least a 4-4 season in five of the last eight years. That's a good record in the recent past.

I like Coach Moorhead, his knowledge and ingenuity in football strategy, as well as his focus on teaching players. However, I don't appreciate the narrative of Mississippi State being a big old loser for fifteen years. If he wants to make the point that State fans should have lessened expectations, then it would be better if he just stated that directly.

 

[Dawgzilla]

His alumni chapter speech was "1 winning SEC season in the last 15 years, only 3 in the last 20 years, and only 4 in the last 30."

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

I’ll be learning RPOs from him tomorrow. I’ll bump this and let you know what I think.

 

[Dawgzilla]

Finebaum took it as a slam on Mullen when Moorhead said it a month or so ago.

I like the statement, because I do think it pinpoints the problem with Mullen at State; we all talk about how he couldn't win the big games and all that, but the real point is that he wasn't winning enough SEC games.

I don't think Moorhead means it as a slam on Mullen, so much as just stating his goal of being competitive in the SEC as opposed to just going to bowl games.

 

[Dawgzilla]

My impression of Coach Moorhead at Media Days:

First of all, I noticed three things right off the bat: 1) He speaks really fast; 2) He has a ton of enthusiasm; and 3) He knows way too much about "Hoosiers".

Now fast speaking can be broken down into three components. First is words per minute, second is enunciation, and third is content. For words per minute, Coach is on the high end, particularly when speaking to Southerners.....(I could do this all day).

 

[drumrcraig]

His point is the exact opposite of what you are saying. He is trying to deliver the message that being .500 in the SEC is no longer the goal. He expects us to have winning records in the SEC every single year. That is the goal that he is setting for this team and for this university. He is actually trying to get us to raise our expectations of what normal can be for this football program.

 

[MSUDawgFan86]

Mississippi State has had five 4-4 seasons and one 6-2 season in fifteen years. In the past, I have heard even (4-4) seasons described as "winning," although that is not typical today. MSU has had at least a 4-4 season in five of the last eight years. That's a good record in the recent past.

I like Coach Moorhead, his knowledge and ingenuity in football strategy, as well as his focus on teaching players. However, I don't appreciate the narrative of Mississippi State being a big old loser for fifteen years. If he wants to make the point that State fans should have lessened expectations, then it would be better if he just stated that directly.

That’s not what he was saying at all but please continue.

 

[HuskyBDawg]

Some members of the media and other fanbases enjoy characterizing Mississippi State as a lesser program. This is the narrative that I was referencing in my previous post.

You can pick out particular time periods and statistics to emphasize a point that you want to make. Repeatedly saying that "...there's been one winning record in the SEC for Mississippi State in the last 15 years" reinforces an idea that MSU has been a losing program. The OP in this thread stated that it stings to hear that statement, and I feel the same way.

In fact, Mississippi State has been a strong program over the last eight years. Most of us already have high expectations for the Bulldogs, and longtime fans are well aware of disappointments from the past.

I like and appreciate Coach Moorhead, but there are better ways to state where the baseline of the program's current status is today.

 

[fishwater99]

Mississippi State has had five 4-4 seasons and one 6-2 season in fifteen years. In the past, I have heard even (4-4) seasons described as "winning," although that is not typical today. MSU has had at least a 4-4 season in five of the last eight years. That's a good record in the recent past.

I like Coach Moorhead, his knowledge and ingenuity in football strategy, as well as his focus on teaching players. However, I don't appreciate the narrative of Mississippi State being a big old loser for fifteen years. If he wants to make the point that State fans should have lessened expectations, then it would be better if he just stated that directly.

It's the truth and JoMo wants to change it. Your boy Dan Mullen is gone with his losing attitude. Get on board Boy...

 

[DawgsOnTheWing]

and 3) He knows way too much about "Hoosiers".

That's fine by me. You can never know too much about Hoosiers.*

 

[Salty Sands Dawg]

The truth hurts. The fact is the great Dan Mullen had nine years to deliver and only came through one time with a winning SEC record (2014) and even then he could have done more! He spent most of the other opportunities (2010, 2012, 2015 and 2017) whoring himself out for his next gig and costing us on the field. If he had been just a little more attentive to the program in November during most of those seasons, we could have had a lot more than just a winning record in the SEC and Joe Mo. would have less likely been able to use it as a talking point.
Thankfully, that show is over and hopefully, we now have a coach that is not only more committed to Mississippi State but committed to building something greater than an SEC middle of the pack program.
As for my standards, they’re in line with Joe Mo. and while I like what I see so far, time will tell for sure.

 

[tired]

I don't think that's his point. Mullen wasn't even the coach for many of those years.

He's simply re-aligning our expectations so that we aren't upset when we go 6-6 this year (jk).

Not sure what you're trying to say. He was coach for over half of those years.

 

[The Fatboy]

Some people won't be happy unless a coach channels Trump during his press conference.
There is no need to make headlines or shoot cannonballs over another team's bow.

 

[fishwater99]

The truth hurts. The fact is the great Dan Mullen had nine years to deliver and only came through one time with a winning SEC record (2014) and even then he could have done more! He spent most of the other opportunities (2010, 2012, 2015 and 2017) whoring himself out for his next gig and costing us on the field. If he had been just a little more attentive to the program in November during most of those seasons, we could have had a lot more than just a winning record in the SEC and Joe Mo. would have less likely been able to use it as a talking point.
Thankfully, that show is over and hopefully, we now have a coach that is not only more committed to Mississippi State but committed to building something greater than an SEC middle of the pack program.
As for my standards, they’re in line with Joe Mo. and while I like what I see so far, time will tell for sure.

Preach it Salty Sands!!!

 

[HuskyBDawg]

It's the truth and JoMo wants to change it. Your boy Dan Mullen is gone with his losing attitude. Get on board Boy...

Just to clarify, as there is obviously work to do on improving my writing skills:

1. Being a DM fan is NOT one of my character flaws.

2. I'm excited about having a smart, strategic, energetic and personable coach teaching, mentoring and leading the MSU football team. I see these characteristics, along with persistence, as being part of the Mississippi State brand.

3. I view the head coach of the football team to be an ambassador and a salesman for the Mississippi State program and the MSU brand. He represents more than the current football team or administration. His statements about the program's history do matter.

4. No expert in marketing or advertising would advise a spokesman for a product/service/program to repeatedly make negative comments about the past of the product/service/program he represents. Your competitors don't need talking points coming from your own people.

5. Stating that Mississippi State has ONLY had X number of winning seasons in Y years IS a negative statement. drumrcraig pointed out that Coach Moorhead used these statements in the context of setting higher expectations. That can be accomplished without prefacing the enthusiastic announcement of big goals with selective, negative information from the past. I already have high expectations for MSU.


The caveat on #4 is that, if you have corrected the problems from the past and are selling a better product/service/program, then you may want to point out that you are new and improved. I have high hopes for the JoMo reign in MSU football, but at this point, he has ZERO winning records in the SEC. I don't enjoy hearing people rag on Mississippi State, even if it's coming from a well-intentioned new coach. When he has fifteen winning records in the SEC, I'll say let 'er rip.

It may be that my view is different because I'm seeing the statements in print and focusing on them out of context. But, negative words in print can't be couched in good intentions or enthusiasm. They are in simple black and white.

Most of you are familiar with the articles pointing out that Mississippi State is the most underrated program in the SEC. Credit has not been given where it is due. That comes from what I call a negative "narrative" that certain media members and fans promote toward our teams, our school, and the state of Mississippi. You all are familiar with it. I don't want to hear their talking points coming from our coach.

I believe Coach Moorhead wants great things for MSU. That a smart man like him would repeatedly point out some of MSU football's shortcomings in public makes me question why he is doing so.

SO, if one of you "connected" guys would tell JoMo that I don't like him saying Mississippi State has ONLY had X number of winning seasons in Y years, then he will probably stop doing it, and I can go back to being happy again. Thanks ahead of time.

HAIL STATE!

tl;dr - Dan Mullen is not my boy.

 

[RPOdawg]

Joe did an outstanding job today representing our program and university. I thought he came across as a very relatable person and very knowledgeable. I’m glad he called ole miss by their name and complemented Matt Luke. I’ve grown tired of this back and forth pissing match between the schools. It’s easy to see why he’s recruiting so well and why the players love him. I’d play for that man.

 

[wsjmsu75]

Some people won't be happy unless a coach channels Trump during his press conference.
There is no need to make headlines or shoot cannonballs over another team's bow.

Channels who? Meaning, he should glorify our SEC West competitors while throwing us under the bus? As in, Putin press conference?

 

[ChinaDogSunflower]

You mustn't have been a fan very long

Mississippi State has had five 4-4 seasons and one 6-2 season in fifteen years. In the past, I have heard even (4-4) seasons described as "winning," although that is not typical today. MSU has had at least a 4-4 season in five of the last eight years. That's a good record in the recent past.

I like Coach Moorhead, his knowledge and ingenuity in football strategy, as well as his focus on teaching players. However, I don't appreciate the narrative of Mississippi State being a big old loser for fifteen years. If he wants to make the point that State fans should have lessened expectations, then it would be better if he just stated that directly.

You have much to learn. Welcome to the family.

 

[Salty Sands Dawg]

Just to clarify, as there is obviously work to do on improving my writing skills:

1. Being a DM fan is NOT one of my character flaws.

2. I'm excited about having a smart, strategic, energetic and personable coach teaching, mentoring and leading the MSU football team. I see these characteristics, along with persistence, as being part of the Mississippi State brand.

3. I view the head coach of the football team to be an ambassador and a salesman for the Mississippi State program and the MSU brand. He represents more than the current football team or administration. His statements about the program's history do matter.

4. No expert in marketing or advertising would advise a spokesman for a product/service/program to repeatedly make negative comments about the past of the product/service/program he represents. Your competitors don't need talking points coming from your own people.

5. Stating that Mississippi State has ONLY had X number of winning seasons in Y years IS a negative statement. drumrcraig pointed out that Coach Moorhead used these statements in the context of setting higher expectations. That can be accomplished without prefacing the enthusiastic announcement of big goals with selective, negative information from the past. I already have high expectations for MSU.


The caveat on #4 is that, if you have corrected the problems from the past and are selling a better product/service/program, then you may want to point out that you are new and improved. I have high hopes for the JoMo reign in MSU football, but at this point, he has ZERO winning records in the SEC. I don't enjoy hearing people rag on Mississippi State, even if it's coming from a well-intentioned new coach. When he has fifteen winning records in the SEC, I'll say let 'er rip.

It may be that my view is different because I'm seeing the statements in print and focusing on them out of context. But, negative words in print can't be couched in good intentions or enthusiasm. They are in simple black and white.

Most of you are familiar with the articles pointing out that Mississippi State is the most underrated program in the SEC. Credit has not been given where it is due. That comes from what I call a negative "narrative" that certain media members and fans promote toward our teams, our school, and the state of Mississippi. You all are familiar with it. I don't want to hear their talking points coming from our coach.

I believe Coach Moorhead wants great things for MSU. That a smart man like him would repeatedly point out some of MSU football's shortcomings in public makes me question why he is doing so.

SO, if one of you "connected" guys would tell JoMo that I don't like him saying Mississippi State has ONLY had X number of winning seasons in Y years, then he will probably stop doing it, and I can go back to being happy again. Thanks ahead of time.

HAIL STATE!

tl;dr - Dan Mullen is not my boy.

Relative to your #3 and #5, you must not have watched, listened to or read a transcript of any of Mullen's press conferences during the last nine years. He routinely took shots at Mississippi State and our history on a variety of levels, as if to point out that NO ONE other than him had accomplished anything positive or productive.
Again, thankfully, we've turned that page and hopefully to brighter days ahead.

 

[mount lefroy]

. However, I don't appreciate the narrative of Mississippi State being a big old loser for fifteen years. If he wants to make the point that State fans should have lessened expectations, then it would be better if he just stated that directly.

1. It’s not a narrative. It’s a fact that the rest of the world points to when we aren’t taken seriously.

2. If you think he said it to make the point we should have lessened expectations, you are a non comprehending 17stick.

Fact is he assumes most state fans are smart enough to understand that being considered “good” with that record in the conference isn’t good enough.

 

[Chesusdog]

Was interesting to hear him talking about two receivers that had stood out to him. One I expected was Austin Williams, the other which I did not was Stephen Guidry. Hope that means we'll see a lot of him this fall.

 

[maroonmania]

Finebaum took it as a slam on Mullen when Moorhead said it a month or so ago.

I like the statement, because I do think it pinpoints the problem with Mullen at State; we all talk about how he couldn't win the big games and all that, but the real point is that he wasn't winning enough SEC games.

I don't think Moorhead means it as a slam on Mullen, so much as just stating his goal of being competitive in the SEC as opposed to just going to bowl games.

I don't think he means it necessarily as a slam on Mullen either. I thinks he's making the point that there is still plenty of room for this program to improve and elevate and he plans to do it. More to the point, what Mullen did was a significant improvement over our traditional past but we, as a program and as fans, should not be satisfied with it.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

Just to clarify, as there is obviously work to do on improving my writing skills:

1. Being a DM fan is NOT one of my character flaws.

2. I'm excited about having a smart, strategic, energetic and personable coach teaching, mentoring and leading the MSU football team. I see these characteristics, along with persistence, as being part of the Mississippi State brand.

3. I view the head coach of the football team to be an ambassador and a salesman for the Mississippi State program and the MSU brand. He represents more than the current football team or administration. His statements about the program's history do matter.

4. No expert in marketing or advertising would advise a spokesman for a product/service/program to repeatedly make negative comments about the past of the product/service/program he represents. Your competitors don't need talking points coming from your own people.

5. Stating that Mississippi State has ONLY had X number of winning seasons in Y years IS a negative statement. drumrcraig pointed out that Coach Moorhead used these statements in the context of setting higher expectations. That can be accomplished without prefacing the enthusiastic announcement of big goals with selective, negative information from the past. I already have high expectations for MSU.


The caveat on #4 is that, if you have corrected the problems from the past and are selling a better product/service/program, then you may want to point out that you are new and improved. I have high hopes for the JoMo reign in MSU football, but at this point, he has ZERO winning records in the SEC. I don't enjoy hearing people rag on Mississippi State, even if it's coming from a well-intentioned new coach. When he has fifteen winning records in the SEC, I'll say let 'er rip.

It may be that my view is different because I'm seeing the statements in print and focusing on them out of context. But, negative words in print can't be couched in good intentions or enthusiasm. They are in simple black and white.

Most of you are familiar with the articles pointing out that Mississippi State is the most underrated program in the SEC. Credit has not been given where it is due. That comes from what I call a negative "narrative" that certain media members and fans promote toward our teams, our school, and the state of Mississippi. You all are familiar with it. I don't want to hear their talking points coming from our coach.

I believe Coach Moorhead wants great things for MSU. That a smart man like him would repeatedly point out some of MSU football's shortcomings in public makes me question why he is doing so.

SO, if one of you "connected" guys would tell JoMo that I don't like him saying Mississippi State has ONLY had X number of winning seasons in Y years, then he will probably stop doing it, and I can go back to being happy again. Thanks ahead of time.

HAIL STATE!

tl;dr - Dan Mullen is not my boy.

One pre-season statement from a new coach that hasn't taken the field yet equals an essay of unhappiness already?

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[G-Dawg]

I think he’s saying we still have work to do. Everybody praises Mullen for what he did and what he’s left, rightfully so, but we can do better still. I think that’s what he means.

Mullen=Jim Mora Saints (got them to a new level)......Moorehead=Sean Payton Saints (hopefully, minus the bounty-gate)

 

[HuskyBDawg]

My Benedict Arnold / Scott Strickland ratio has taken a beating today.

Welp, if you can't run with the big DAWGS, then you best stay on the porch.

I've learned a few things today:

If you play in traffic at the PACK, you WILL get run over.

Some of you DAWGS are really po'd about MSU's SEC records. I respect that.

The animosity toward Coach DM is greater than I thought, but, for many fans, it's based more on lack of performance than his lack of a Southern gentleman's etiquette.

If you can't say something nice about JoMo, you best just shut up. Coach JoMo is AWESOME!!! Never thought he wasn't.​

I was there when we beat the Bear (freshman year) and will be in front of a big screen tv on Sep 29.

HAIL STATE !