Clouse on the recruiting end game

[inWV]

On 1620, Clouse gave Bell, Jean-Baptiste, Tago, Taylor, Washington, Canty and Hunt as the likely targets, with Bell and JJB as jump balls. The latter five he said are likely commits. If my math is right, we would be at 1872 per rivals, which would currently be 16 over S Carolina. I think that would lock NU in for a top 20 class per Rivals. If Frost and Co go for big air and get Bell and JJB, that class would challenge for the 16th spot.
So the trajectory is probably somewhere between 16-20. At this point, regardless of exact finish, serious props to this staff for snapping necks and cashing checks. Big first step to roster turnover.

 

[davecisar]

UCLA, Florida and Florida State are going to pass Nebraska- so its highly unlikely even under the best of circumstances to say NU could finish better than 19th. Im still thinking they end up at #20. Which would be great.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

UCLA, Florida and Florida State are going to pass Nebraska- so its highly unlikely even under the best of circumstances to say NU could finish better than 19th. Im still thinking they end up at #20. Which would be great.

Yes it will be interesting to see where we rank among the programs undergoing a staff change. Oregon currently also has a very highly ranked class.

 

[Headcard]

Yes it will be interesting to see where we rank among the programs undergoing a staff change. Oregon currently also has a very highly ranked class.

They do. But they didn't undergo much of a staff change, keeping both coordinators.

 

[chicolby]

At the end of the day, this staff did major work to land the kinds of players Nebraska needs to boost its ability to compete. If the class is "ranked" 19, 17 or 23 is of little consequence to me. Sounds like the coaching staff was shocked by the lack of numbers in the defensive backfield and at wide receiver and they've done a nice job to fix this gap.

 

[Nate004]

Back in December after Moore decomitted, I was nervous. We were ranked in the 90's, and nobody really knew how well Frost would recruit. As a transition class, I was actually *hoping* to get back in 30's and thought the 40's were more realistic. The work that Frost and his staff has done is amazing. The fact that this is going to press being a top 20 class will really help him in the coming years.

 

[davecisar]

Yes it will be interesting to see where we rank among the programs undergoing a staff change. Oregon currently also has a very highly ranked class.

Right now if you compare the better teams that changed coaches and compare- NU looks pretty good.

Adding up the last 3 years of Rivals Team Rankings- average them together

Take where conservatively these teams will end up ranking:

NEBRASKA 20th- Average was 25 so +5
Oregon- ends up 16th- Average was 20 so +4
Florida 15th- Average was 15 so push
UCLA- 18th- Average was 15 so -3
Tennessee- 17th- Average was 12 so -5
FSU 13th- Average was 3 so -10
A&M 25th- Average was 13 so -12


Again- this is based on a final projection for 2018- but that should be in the ballpark at the end. NU would have shown the largest improvement in recruiting with Oregon a close second. Tennessee in spite of the fiasco- seemed to come out of this pretty well as does Florida. A&M/FSU both got pretty late starts

So looks like Nebraska and Oregon would be the only 2 teams to improve their recruiting ranking this year compared to their last 3 year average

 

[timnsun]

Right now if you compare the better teams that changed coaches and compare- NU looks pretty good.

Adding up the last 3 years of Rivals Team Rankings- average them together

Take where conservatively these teams will end up ranking:

Oregon- ends up 16th- Average was 20 so +4
Tennessee- 17th- Average was 12 so -5
UCLA- 18th- Average was 15 so +3
A&M 25th- Average was 13 so -12
FSU 13th- Average was 3 so -10
Florida 15th- Average was 15 so push

NEBRASKA 20th- Average was 25 so +5

Again- this is based on a final projection for 2018- but that should be in the ballpark at the end. NU would have shown the largest improvement in recruiting with Oregon a close second and UCLA not far behind. Tennessee in spite of the fiasco- seemed to come out of this pretty well as does Florida. A&M/FSU both got pretty late starts

According to your stats UCLA is actually -3 not +3…

 

[Suh is King_rivals270016]

Back in December after Moore decomitted, I was nervous. We were ranked in the 90's, and nobody really knew how well Frost would recruit. As a transition class, I was actually *hoping* to get back in 30's and thought the 40's were more realistic. The work that Frost and his staff has done is amazing. The fact that this is going to press being a top 20 class will really help him in the coming years.

YES INDEED!

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

I guess that is one way to look at it if you are looking to spin it more positive. But if Nebraska is ranked 20 at the end of the cycle and Tennessee is ranked 17th, Tennessee still has a higher ranked class. The fact remains if things finish as you suggest then according to Rivals, Nebraska will be ranked 5th of 6 of the schools you provided that had coaching changes.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

I guess that is one way to look at it if you are looking to spin it more positive. But if Nebraska is ranked 20 at the end of the cycle and Tennessee is ranked 17th, Tennessee still has a higher ranked class. The fact remains if things finish as you suggest then according to Rivals, Nebraska will be ranked 5th of 6 of the schools you provided that had coaching changes.

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I guess that is one way to look at it if you are looking to spin it more positive. But if Nebraska is ranked 20 at the end of the cycle and Tennessee is ranked 17th, Tennessee still has a higher ranked class. The fact remains if things finish as you suggest then according to Rivals, Nebraska will be ranked 5th of 6 of the schools you provided that had coaching changes.

If a program consistently for a variety of reasons- Like a Florida State, Florida, Texas A&M for example start at a place significantly higher- than NU- which they do. The best way to determine if progress is being made is to see how much closer we have moved the needle.

If we take into consideration wins and losses Im pretty sure 19-19 will be at the bottom of the barrel- a pretty deep chasm to dig out of. In contrast FSU is without question a top 5 program, playing for National Titles- the rest all have MUCH better National Recognition and resumes than Nebraska. Taking that into consideration- NU has probably lapped the field from an improvement perspective. Get a few wins under the belt and NU could be a top 15, then top 10 program- in recruting- then what matters most- the games.

It's a real shame those who made the mistake of being Riley apologists, could just admit their mistake, move on and get behind Frost.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

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Bottom line is bottom line, right? I was told moral victories weren't a part of the Nebraska way.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

If a program consistently for a variety of reasons- Like a Florida State, Florida, Texas A&M for example start at a place significantly higher- than NU- which they do. The best way to determine if progress is being made is to see how much closer we have moved the needle.

If we take into consideration wins and losses Im pretty sure 19-19 will be at the bottom of the barrel- a pretty deep chasm to dig out of. In contrast FSU is without question a top 5 program, playing for National Titles- the rest all have MUCH better National Recognition and resumes than Nebraska. Taking that into consideration- NU has probably lapped the field from an improvement perspective. Get a few wins under the belt and NU could be a top 15, then top 10 program- in recruting- then what matters most- the games.

It's a real shame those who made the mistake of being Riley apologists, could just admit their mistake, move on and get behind Frost.

You are looking for ways to make it better than it is. That is the real shame. Why can't having the 20th ranked class be what it is? Why do you find the need to try and make it something else. If Nebraska finishes 25th in the final polls and Alabama finishes 8th, does that show Nebraska is making more progress than Alabama? .....No, it just means Nebraska is making progress.

This has nothing to do with Mike Riley or my support of the head football coach at Nebraska. This is about you attempting to make the 20th ranked class appear better than it is.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

Bottom line is bottom line, right? I was told moral victories weren't a part of the Nebraska way.

you are 100% correct ... but both you and I know that isn't necessarily how things are going to play out

I saw one report that lists us as having the 2nd toughest schedule in the nation next year - I suspect there is going to be a big embracing of moral victories

 

[davecisar]

Bottom line is bottom line, right? I was told moral victories weren't a part of the Nebraska way.

Ok so when UCF went from 0-12 to 6-6 and were competing- that doesnt mean anything?

When a team like NU is digging out from the hole of incompetence dug by one of the worst coaching staffs in DI- you look for measurable improvements- on the path to greatness. Not the "everything is great except the games" and all smiles after losses mediocrity/incompetence by Smilin Mike.

Big difference between guys who have won championships and that is the standard to guys who think 4 wins is "still on the right path" after the previous guy won 9/10 games for 7 years straight and who thinks 9 wins is Nirvana. The Riley apologists need to learn more about the game and NU Football, get on board or get out of the way.

Im guessing they wont need to move very far, I didnt hear anyone supporting Riley in my seating area- probably people that never even go to the games.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

you are 100% correct ... but both you and I know that isn't necessarily how things are going to play out

I saw one report that lists us as having the 2nd toughest schedule in the nation next year - I suspect there is going to be a big embracing of moral victories

Oh there is no doubt that the bottom line guys from the past 10 years will be embracing all of the moral victories they can. Frankly, I don't really have a problem with it. I just like to remind them that they are bottom line guys.

 

[davecisar]

you are 100% correct ... but both you and I know that isn't necessarily how things are going to play out

I saw one report that lists us as having the 2nd toughest schedule in the nation next year - I suspect there is going to be a big embracing of moral victories

No

NU won 4 games last year
Squeaked by Something Arkansas (not the Razorbacks)
Struggled in win over Rutgers
Got lucky in win over Purdue
Lost to Northern Illinois
Got CRUSHED by Minnesota
Got CRUSHED by Iowa
Got boat raced by PSU, OSU. WIsconsin and Oregon (thanks for letting up)

We shall see if there is significant improvement with primarily Smilin Mikes players off of that great standard of success.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Ok so when UCF went from 0-12 to 6-6 and were competing- that doesnt mean anything?

When a team like NU is digging out from the hole of incompetence dug by one of the worst coaching staffs in DI- you look for measurable improvements- on the path to greatness. Not the "everything is great except the games" and all smiles after losses mediocrity/incompetence by Smilin Mike.

Big difference between guys who have won championships and that is the standard to guys who think 4 wins is "still on the right path" after the previous guy won 8/10 games for 7 years straight and who thinks 9 wins is Nirvana. The Riley apologists need to learn more about the game and NU Football, get on board or get out of the way.

None of that is at all relevant to your initial post. You listed 6 teams that are going through coaching changes and attempted to minimize the success of those schools on the recruiting trail by showing they are not doing as well as Nebraska based on some random 3 year average.

What was UCFs 3 year win total average before Frost took over?

12-1, 9-4, 0-12. Looks like 7 wins. Frost won 6 the first year so using your metric Frost was -1 his first year. See how someone can take numbers and make them say whatever they want?

 

[JohnRossEwing]

Who cares, it is clear he is doing a good job.

In the end, it only matters if he wins games.

 

[davecisar]

None of that is at all relevant to your initial post. You listed 6 teams that are going through coaching changes and attempted to minimize the success of those schools on the recruiting trail by showing they are not doing as well as Nebraska based on some random 3 year average.

What was UCFs 3 year win total average before Frost took over?

12-1, 9-4, 0-12. Looks like 7 wins. Frost won 6 the first year so using your metric Frost was -1 his first year. See how someone can take numbers and make them say whatever they want?

You need to pack up all your Riley and Mr Rodgers posters and get on the bandwagon that is the Mike Riley Oregon State Beavers- they will be rocking it this year.

Im liking those UCF numbers Frost took a team that totally tanked and was able to change that losing culture around in one year. Maybe he can do the same at NU- Im liking what Im seeing so far.

Random average? Im thinking the last 3 years is the most relevant- it reflects where that program is today.

Ill be at the games. Not sure how anyone that supported a verified loser like Mike Riley cant get behind this hire. Real shame- you made a mistake, you backed a loser, you didnt use good judgement or dont know the game well enough to make good judgements- get over it and move on.

 

[BIGRedKoolaid]

I like the star averages more..we should finish top 20..
But what i like more is the staff identifying who they want in their system and getting them

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

No

NU won 4 games last year
Squeaked by Something Arkansas (not the Razorbacks)
Struggled in win over Rutgers
Got lucky in win over Purdue
Lost to Northern Illinois
Got CRUSHED by Minnesota
Got CRUSHED by Iowa
Got boat raced by PSU, OSU. WIsconsin and Oregon (thanks for letting up)

We shall see if there is significant improvement with primarily Smilin Mikes players off of that great standard of success.

hey -- I am 100% behind the hiring of Frost and was calling for Riley to be out early -- just pointing out that we all have biases and blindspots and it is healthy to be aware of them

we need to be careful that the prism with which we view things isn't too thick that we lose objectivity - we are too quick to paint things as all good or all bad

I agree we can play better and still lose and likewise I think we are really struggling recruiting on the Oline and therefore Austin should be scrutinized much in the same way as Cav would have

my bar for next year is 6 wins - we need to get bowl eligible

GBR

 

[JohnRossEwing]

Could you imagine if they made a star ranking system for "looks" of high schoolers...man...the internet would EXPLODE

 

[Harry Caray]

On 1620, Clouse gave Bell, Jean-Baptiste, Tago, Taylor, Washington, Canty and Hunt as the likely targets, with Bell and JJB as jump balls. The latter five he said are likely commits. If my math is right, we would be at 1872 per rivals, which would currently be 16 over S Carolina. I think that would lock NU in for a top 20 class per Rivals. If Frost and Co go for big air and get Bell and JJB, that class would challenge for the 16th spot.
So the trajectory is probably somewhere between 16-20. At this point, regardless of exact finish, serious props to this staff for snapping necks and cashing checks. Big first step to roster turnover.

No mention of Ogbonnia? I think we have a really good chance with him because he wants to be a thrower on the track team too (like the Davis bros). He also wants to major in engineering (Ndamukong Suh anyone?). Should be an easy sell there.

I am hoping for Montgomery Jr. as well, we are in his Final 3 before he's even visited.

I still think Washington is a strong lean to ASU. The visit will have to blow him away. Jarrett Bell seems to be waiting for a Notre Dame offer. It just seems like he is not sold on Nebraska for some reason.

 

[bshirt73]

Ok so when UCF went from 0-12 to 6-6 and were competing- that doesnt mean anything?

When a team like NU is digging out from the hole of incompetence dug by one of the worst coaching staffs in DI- you look for measurable improvements- on the path to greatness. Not the "everything is great except the games" and all smiles after losses mediocrity/incompetence by Smilin Mike.

Big difference between guys who have won championships and that is the standard to guys who think 4 wins is "still on the right path" after the previous guy won 9/10 games for 7 years straight and who thinks 9 wins is Nirvana. The Riley apologists need to learn more about the game and NU Football, get on board or get out of the way.

Im guessing they wont need to move very far, I didnt hear anyone supporting Riley in my seating area- probably people that never even go to the games.

I seriously doubt the Riley apologists will ever acknowledge "results".

To them, MR's four wins will always be preferred over Bo's 9 or 10 wins, Frank's Big12 conference championship, NC title game or whatever. Luckily for the rest of us, with NU finally dealing with "results", we now have a truly massively improved HC & AD.

Let the apologists have their dream bubble fantasy. It's good times coming around the corner for the rest of us.

 

[davecisar]

I seriously doubt the Riley apologists will ever acknowledge "results".

To them, MR's four wins will always be preferred over Bo's 9 or 10 wins, Frank's Big12 conference championship, NC title game or whatever. Luckily for the rest of us, with NU finally dealing with "results", we now have a truly massively improved HC & AD.

Let the apologists have their dream bubble fantasy. It's good times coming around the corner for the rest of us.

I just think those who thought Riley was the answer and bought into the BS narrative that a .500 coach who never won anything was going to take this 9/10 win program and give us the little nudge, tweaks and "disciline" to get us to 11/12/13 wins.

Those guys just need to start out every post with:
My opinion on Nebraska football and its coaching staff- really shouldnt mean much to anyone. Please dont take what I say seriously because my past decisions and opinions on the subject have proven that I know very little about the subject or processing information efficiently to make correct decisions and opinions in this subject area. This doesnt make me a bad person, it just means I have no credibility at all when it comes to NU football, so please dont listen to me or let me influence your opinion in any way whatsoever

 

[JohnRossEwing]

I seriously doubt the Riley apologists will ever acknowledge "results".

To them, MR's four wins will always be preferred over Bo's 9 or 10 wins, Frank's Big12 conference championship, NC title game or whatever. Luckily for the rest of us, with NU finally dealing with "results", we now have a truly massively improved HC & AD.

Let the apologists have their dream bubble fantasy. It's good times coming around the corner for the rest of us.

This is funny and true.

 

[CC_Lemming]

I'd just like to point out that nobody offering criticism of the recruiting class brought up Riley. One poster brought up Riley to impugn another poster's assessment of the class, and then he and a bunch of others went on some tirade and tangent about how there are still Riley apologists who don't care about results blah, blah, blah. Nevermind the fact that no one actually stated that or tried to defend that view.

I'd also point out that no one said they were trying to make the recruiting class look better than it in fact is. When teams like Tennessee consistently out recruit us, it makes perfect sense to find some way of measuring relative success, and comparing the improvement of rankings, as opposed to the rankings themselves, is one way to do that. Of course, that may be problematic for a number of reasons but I do not see why one of those reasons had to be the equivalent of trying to put lipstick on a pig.

 

[Cloud_a_Heart]

hey -- I am 100% behind the hiring of Frost and was calling for Riley to be out early -- just pointing out that we all have biases and blindspots and it is healthy to be aware of them

we need to be careful that the prism with which we view things isn't too thick that we lose objectivity - we are too quick to paint things as all good or all bad

I agree we can play better and still lose and likewise I think we are really struggling recruiting on the Oline and therefore Austin should be scrutinized much in the same way as Cav would have

my bar for next year is 6 wins - we need to get bowl eligible

GBR

My bar for next year is 7 regular season wins, so if the bowl game is a loss there is still a "winning" season. I will be happy with anything more, disappointed with anything less, but will continue to be a loyal fan regardless!

 

[jay-cheese]

Accountability on anonymous message boards...HA! Valid objective, just not realistic (that's the big reason most people post to begin with, they can show people how dumb/stupid/ridiculous their comments/opinions are and never have to own up to them)

GBR

 

[JohnRossEwing]

Accountability on anonymous message boards...HA! Valid objective, just not realistic (that's the big reason most people post to begin with, they can show people how dumb/stupid/ridiculous their comments/opinions are and never have to own up to them)

GBR

No ****!

It is a freaking message board! The biggest Frost fan is going to be posting negative **** after the first 3 and out.

People need to chill the **** out

 

[inWV]

I'd just like to point out that nobody offering criticism of the recruiting class brought up Riley. One poster brought up Riley to impugn another poster's assessment of the class, and then he and a bunch of others went on some tirade and tangent about how there are still Riley apologists who don't care about results blah, blah, blah. Nevermind the fact that no one actually stated that or tried to defend that view.

I'd also point out that no one said they were trying to make the recruiting class look better than it in fact is. When teams like Tennessee consistently out recruit us, it makes perfect sense to find some way of measuring relative success, and comparing the improvement of rankings, as opposed to the rankings themselves, is one way to do that. Of course, that may be problematic for a number of reasons but I do not see why one of those reasons had to be the equivalent of trying to put lipstick on a pig.

I didn't see any harm in the comparison to UT, UCLA et al. either. And yes, the ranking is what it is and certainly no one would turn down being several spots ahead of where NU will likely land. I'm stoked about the class finishing ahead of where even the most optimistic of us predicted (I was a Rivals 25-30 guy myself). Some people dig the troll game and others are really down with recrimination. That's the nature of this board.

 

[Mr.Scary13]

Ok so when UCF went from 0-12 to 6-6 and were competing- that doesnt mean anything?

When a team like NU is digging out from the hole of incompetence dug by one of the worst coaching staffs in DI- you look for measurable improvements- on the path to greatness. Not the "everything is great except the games" and all smiles after losses mediocrity/incompetence by Smilin Mike.

Big difference between guys who have won championships and that is the standard to guys who think 4 wins is "still on the right path" after the previous guy won 9/10 games for 7 years straight and who thinks 9 wins is Nirvana. The Riley apologists need to learn more about the game and NU Football, get on board or get out of the way.

Im guessing they wont need to move very far, I didnt hear anyone supporting Riley in my seating area- probably people that never even go to the games.

Who would that be?

 

[cornhustler]

the 90's

Great decade man! Bad class rank.

 

[Huskercigar]

Bottom line is bottom line, right? I was told moral victories weren't a part of the Nebraska way.

Who's calling moral victories? We are trying to judge progress. As opposed to degression we have seen.

 

[Huskercigar]

Oh there is no doubt that the bottom line guys from the past 10 years will be embracing all of the moral victories they can. Frankly, I don't really have a problem with it. I just like to remind them that they are bottom line guys.

And you can believe that all the Riley apologists will still challenge every measuring stick regardless of how they ignored them under MR.

 

[cornhustler]

Ndamukong Suh

He should randomly be on campus this weekend...

 

[WoodRiverJennings]

Ok so when UCF went from 0-12 to 6-6 and were competing- that doesnt mean anything?

When a team like NU is digging out from the hole of incompetence dug by one of the worst coaching staffs in DI- you look for measurable improvements- on the path to greatness. Not the "everything is great except the games" and all smiles after losses mediocrity/incompetence by Smilin Mike.

Big difference between guys who have won championships and that is the standard to guys who think 4 wins is "still on the right path" after the previous guy won 9/10 games for 7 years straight and who thinks 9 wins is Nirvana. The Riley apologists need to learn more about the game and NU Football, get on board or get out of the way.

Im guessing they wont need to move very far, I didnt hear anyone supporting Riley in my seating area- probably people that never even go to the games.

Loolz

Nobody is trying to spin anything to make Riley look good in this thread. You go off on some weird *** tangent about getting on board or getting out of the way in every reply.

We all know Mikes coaching staff sucked. We all know HCSFs staff has done some good things thus far. Chill out.

 

[inWV]

I was a Riley apologist at the beginning of the 2017 season, left that train after the NIU debacle, with all remaining hope snuffed out at the end of the NW game. That is over now.
Frost is now the coach and I hope never to have to be a Frost apologist.