Clock management again

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My time and distance might be a little off IIRC, On the 4th down (3 to go?) with approx. 2:30 left in the game and we are marching for the go ahead score. We have 3 timeouts in our pocket and we have to make this play is to keep this drive alive and have a chance to pull this win off. This play is THE GAME!! Perfect time to call a TO, regroup, take a couple minutes to figure out a play to get the first down. Nope. We are going to just take the 35 second play clock and then chuck it to the corner for a jump ball! I was screaming at the TV to call the TO. In the end I think we still had a TO to burn. Pathetic. If KF is so oblivious to the clock, put someone in the booth who knows what to do. Happens time after time, year in year out
 

83Hawk

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My time and distance might be a little off IIRC, On the 4th down (3 to go?) with approx. 2:30 left in the game and we are marching for the go ahead score. We have 3 timeouts in our pocket and we have to make this play is to keep this drive alive and have a chance to pull this win off. This play is THE GAME!! Perfect time to call a TO, regroup, take a couple minutes to figure out a play to get the first down. Nope. We are going to just take the 35 second play clock and then chuck it to the corner for a jump ball! I was screaming at the TV to call the TO. In the end I think we still had a TO to burn. Pathetic. If KF is so oblivious to the clock, put someone in the booth who knows what to do. Happens time after time, year in year out
Clock management has been one of Kirk’s peccadillos. Happened at the end of the first half, too.
 

uihawk82

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My time and distance might be a little off IIRC, On the 4th down (3 to go?) with approx. 2:30 left in the game and we are marching for the go ahead score. We have 3 timeouts in our pocket and we have to make this play is to keep this drive alive and have a chance to pull this win off. This play is THE GAME!! Perfect time to call a TO, regroup, take a couple minutes to figure out a play to get the first down. Nope. We are going to just take the 35 second play clock and then chuck it to the corner for a jump ball! I was screaming at the TV to call the TO. In the end I think we still had a TO to burn. Pathetic. If KF is so oblivious to the clock, put someone in the booth who knows what to do. Happens time after time, year in year out
Pat Angerer on the radiocast said the same thing. It could have been the game changing play and better to go through the playbook for best short yardage type plays against their defense
 

RomanHawk

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Clock management has been one of Kirk’s peccadillos. Happened at the end of the first half, too.
I discussed his clock management with a poster last year who was claiming it was a thing of the past. I said it still exists and it does-right to the present.
 

Grayhair1981

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To play devil's advocate, if they didn't pick up the first, they had three TOs to get the ball back. Of course, they hadn't stopped USC since the first quarter but that is the traditional way to look at that situation. My biggest concern there was the Hawks would score and USC would march down the field and beat them.
 

airhawk

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Clock management has been one of Kirk’s peccadillos. Happened at the end of the first half, too.
Not sure WTH a peccadillo is but I know it has pissed me off for years. I wish I could chalk it up to a senior moment but he has done it over and over again
 

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My time and distance might be a little off IIRC, On the 4th down (3 to go?) with approx. 2:30 left in the game and we are marching for the go ahead score. We have 3 timeouts in our pocket and we have to make this play is to keep this drive alive and have a chance to pull this win off. This play is THE GAME!! Perfect time to call a TO, regroup, take a couple minutes to figure out a play to get the first down. Nope. We are going to just take the 35 second play clock and then chuck it to the corner for a jump ball! I was screaming at the TV to call the TO. In the end I think we still had a TO to burn. Pathetic. If KF is so oblivious to the clock, put someone in the booth who knows what to do. Happens time after time, year in year out
I think we wanted to not repeat the same mistake if leaving time on the clock
 
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Pat Angerer on the radiocast said the same thing. It could have been the game changing play and better to go through the playbook for best short yardage type plays against their defense
Angerer and Dolphin seemed less than impressed with that last drive - especially those last three runs.
 

DukeSlater

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He’ll get that cleaned up!
Exactly. Give KF a break. He can't be expected to handle complicated issues like clock management after only 26+ years on the job. I'm confident by year thirty or so you'll see some improvement. After all, little ole Iowa is a developmental program, and some things take longer to develop than others.
 

HoggI74

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If KW wears a size 8 1/2 instead of an 11, we have first and goal from the 6 with all the TOs...great Sunday afternoon QB-ing here...
 

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If KW wears a size 8 1/2 instead of an 11, we have first and goal from the 6 with all the TOs...great Sunday afternoon QB-ing here...
Not Sunday afternoon QB doofus. The most important thing on that play was a first down…not heaving a pass to the corner on a ****** rainy day. Ever heard of using the sideline as an extra defender? Maybe if there were 10 seconds left rather than over 2 minutes.
Shoe size? That the best you got?
 

Easthawk1062

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I thought the end of the half clock management was absolutely atrocious. After cracking off the big run to get to mid field with 18 seconds left and you don’t burn a timeout. After that play and the penalty you’ve got 7 seconds left. Terrible.
 

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Had KF used his 2 timeouts in the first half properly, we probably kick a FG, which means all we would have needed was a FG at the end to take the lead. For a guy who’s always playing in the margins, you’d think he’d be better at finding “hidden” points like that.
 

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Had KF used his 2 timeouts in the first half properly, we probably kick a FG, which means all we would have needed was a FG at the end to take the lead. For a guy who’s always playing in the margins, you’d think he’d be better at finding “hidden” points like that.
Needs to have someone on staff that keeps track of this stuff so Kirk doesn’t have to. He is so bad at it. All comes back to his play not to lose attitude. Has no concept of momentum and how to use it or stop it
 

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My time and distance might be a little off IIRC, On the 4th down (3 to go?) with approx. 2:30 left in the game and we are marching for the go ahead score. We have 3 timeouts in our pocket and we have to make this play is to keep this drive alive and have a chance to pull this win off. This play is THE GAME!! Perfect time to call a TO, regroup, take a couple minutes to figure out a play to get the first down. Nope. We are going to just take the 35 second play clock and then chuck it to the corner for a jump ball! I was screaming at the TV to call the TO. In the end I think we still had a TO to burn. Pathetic. If KF is so oblivious to the clock, put someone in the booth who knows what to do. Happens time after time, year in year out
The longer that game went the worst it would have gotten. USC scored on 5 consecutive possessions and if not for that phantom D hold call and them sitting on ball final moments, made the score look better. No doubt, Riley would had ran it up had they been given that sack cause fumble.
Great 1st half, Hawks were ready and fun. But simply couldn't stop the USC offense. And the announcers were saying they were missing top two rbs, one that was 2nd in nation rushing, two top linemen, and TE. Wth! No wonder they are dumping Notre Dame, they would be in playoffs win or lose vs Ducks.
Great effort by Hawks, proud of them. Got to beat Nebby, or an ugly 7-5.
 

Ironman39

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Had KF used his 2 timeouts in the first half properly, we probably kick a FG, which means all we would have needed was a FG at the end to take the lead. For a guy who’s always playing in the margins, you’d think he’d be better at finding “hidden” points like that.
He's afraid of his players making mistakes........


Ftr, you guys are wrong about the end of game being a poor "clock management" issue. Poor play calling/decision-making/player execution, sure.

There was over 2 minutes to go, and CFB has the 2 minute warning now, so effectively Iowa had 4 timeouts to work with, and Kirk in all his wisdom has more trust in our defense blindly getting a stop even when they've struggled to do so all 2nd half. That's not "clock management".

Of course, we didn't get to find out if the defense could've come up with one more stop because one of our idiot assistant coaches verbally assaulted an official for being warm dogsh** at their job (i.e. just being honest = flag and game over).

Great stuff all around. :D
 
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Hawk4Ever!

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Pat Angerer on the radiocast said the same thing. It could have been the game changing play and better to go through the playbook for best short yardage type plays against their defense
Angerer and Dolph had a good call. Seemed to enjoy the setting (not the rain). Like KF , both were amazed by #6 and somewhat stunned how easy it was for USC to get the ball to that freak and move the ball so easily.
 

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The 2005 Capital One bowl ending was atrocious clock management.
The KF 'seemingly unaware' (of the clock) game ... Dolph is getting better as he ages. But miss the drunk Eddie, he was hilarious, but he simply wasn't interested in the games anymore.
 

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Angerer and Dolph had a good call. Seemed to enjoy the setting (not the rain). Like KF , both were amazed by #6 and somewhat stunned how easy it was for USC to get the ball to that freak and move the ball so easily.
QB was hardly ever chased out of the pocket.

Iowa's front 7 simply don't get enough pressure on QB.
Getting gashed up the middle in the run game has become all too common.
 
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To play devil's advocate, if they didn't pick up the first, they had three TOs to get the ball back. Of course, they hadn't stopped USC since the first quarter but that is the traditional way to look at that situation. My biggest concern there was the Hawks would score and USC would march down the field and beat them.
Agree, nothing after the 1st quarter showed the D was going to stop the USC offense. If USC needed the points, no doubt they would have gotten it, especially a GW FG. Riley just schooled Parker, Hawks looked very confused on D. Poor Lut and X are going to have nightmares about #6.
 

Grayhair1981

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He's afraid of his players making mistakes........


Ftr, you guys are wrong about the end of game being a poor "clock management" issue. Poor play calling/decision-making/player execution, sure.

There was over 2 minutes to go, and CFB has the 2 minute warning now, so effectively Iowa had 4 timeouts to work with, and Kirk in all his wisdom has more trust in our defense blindly getting a stop even when they've struggled to do so all 2nd half. That's not "clock management".

Of course, we didn't get to find out if the defense could've come up with one more stop because one of our idiot assistant coaches verbally assaulted an official for being warm dogsh** at their job (i.e. just being honest = flag and game over).

Great stuff all around. :D
Yeah I was 100% not buying the "aw shucks, I guess one of the coaches stepped onto the field" explanation for the unsportsmanlike. Someone said something and I can definitely understand why. It would have been hard to not say that based on how things went.
 
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airhawk

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To play devil's advocate, if they didn't pick up the first, they had three TOs to get the ball back. Of course, they hadn't stopped USC since the first quarter but that is the traditional way to look at that situation. My biggest concern there was the Hawks would score and USC would march down the field and beat them.
All I am saying is at that point in the game the first down was the most important thing. That 4th down was THE biggest play of the game for us. We had to get that play right and we didn’t. Regroup, go thru the playbook and get the best option
At that point of the game priorites:
#1. Get the first down, drive continues
*if #1 fails. Everything else is a moot point
#2 Score a TD
#3 If #1&#2 come true the chances of us holding them from scoring weren’t great as we hadn’t since the first quarter but it was a chance we had to take.
Bottom line, take a timeout there, get it right and continue the drive. Who knows maybe we can run the clock down and score with little time left. But no, we end the game with a whimper
 

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I happened to watch highlights from the 2015 ISU game today. The sequence at the end of the first half there was the ‼️ of KF and clock/game management. Had first down around ISU 20 yard line with about a minute left. Ran the clock down, ran the ball once, let the clock run down to 1 second, called TO. Then ran a fake FG from the 20 that failed. You can't make this s*** up
 
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I happened to watch highlights from the 2015 ISU game today. The sequence at the end of the first half there was the ‼️ of KF and clock/game management. Had first down around ISU 20 yard line with about a minute left. Ran the clock down, ran the ball once, let the clock run down to 1 second, called TO. Then ran a fake FG from the 20 that failed. You can't make this s*** up
The KFz headscratcher. He's among the best in the business at a number of things...absolutely terrible at a couple, like clock management.