Taking the simpleton point of view here on Cliff, if he was the one player that affected the teams performance most when he was off or on the court, wouldn't that make him the most important?
FWIW I’m not specifically defending Cliff. I mean, l like Cliff but I am not knowledgeable enough about basketball to really add to that discussion. My point is more general.
The longer we go without that “Center” piece the more it become an issue. I expect Pikiell and staff to button this up sooner than later.
I have reached out to both. I’ll let you know what they say.
National guy who knows his stuff. Nice to see
There was absolutely nothing that Pike or the rest of the coaching staff could do about the fact that Cliff simply cannot shoot
They could screen away and have Cliff dive towards the basket
Agree. We really can’t assess the importance of losing Cliff until we know who his replacement is.
Depends on how all the parts fit together. They may not need that this year for the 5 because Dylan will be doing a lot of the elevating. That said the athleticism and shot blocking will definitely be a notch lower and it's hopefully replaced by someone that has a bigger offensive skill set.
I doubt we will be better off overall with Cliff's replacement. Hopefully we get someone who proves me wrong
We already know that because they can't afford someone better. They can't even afford what Cliff is being offered.
Many on these boards are acting like Cliff isn't a big loss and we are better off without him.
Oh, they can afford his 8 ppg in P5 games. They probably can’t afford replacing his highlight blocks and dunks, but so what.
I guess you should call UNC and advise them of this.
Yeah, Thank God our coaches aren't distracted by our posts and are somehow able to continue doing there jobs.
This is exactly it. Thank you for pointing it out by trying to make another point.I guess you should call UNC and advise them of this.
Most coaches recognize that his production suffered from crap guard play but don't let that stop you from telling us you know very little.
is this why he never once in 4 years had the vision to pass to open perimeter shooter ? not once. or shot so hard off the backboard that the shot clock shook ? Or kicked good passes out of bounds ? Guard play LOL.I guess you should call UNC and advise them of this.
Most coaches recognize that his production suffered from crap guard play but don't let that stop you from telling us you know very little.
So true it’s amazing how guys claiming to know it all are blind to this obvious point
The year before last when they had the semblance of an offense he averaged almost an assist a game (0.9).
Maybe because Pike couldn’t get him to move and Cliff couldn’t comprehend or had the dog in him to do it.
You guys are lost on this one. Name a center that won a title by himself, or even with just mediocre talent around him? Hell, there are only like 11 that have ever won three and that list includes such luminaries as Will Perdue, Javelle McGhee, Luc Longley, Bill Cartwright, James Edwards, and Clyde Lovellette. Think we can agree they didn't lead their teams. Bill Russell? History says he had some damn good talent around him, Cousy, Heihnson, ect. Kareem - usually had some talent around him. Shaq and Robert Parish are the others. Shaq beat Mutumbo, but had a guy named Kobe as a sidekick.
I remember one of those games he shut him down and literally when he came out of the game he torched the back up.
All the guys you named were more than rim protecting, 15% miss dunkers
The point is centers don't lead teams to titles, stop acting like Cliff should have.
It's a guard dominated game nowadays. Very few centers are dominate period today.
You don’t know what my measurables are
We will see, and you make a lot of assumptions. You don’t know what I make.
