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SirScarlet

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RUChow said:
Don't need to be told the same thing again. Again, is this based on some info or just on opinion, because if it's based solely on bigger programs recruiting him then that's a loser's mentality IMO.
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Read Hawks post above

If he is open for business we got no shot. ZERO.

If his recruitment is legit, we will be there til the end.
 
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NewJerseyHawk

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SirScarlet said:
Read Hawks post above

If he is open for business we got no shot. ZERO.

If his recruitment is legit, we will be there til the end.
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This is the summary....it doesn't mean the player is a bad person or has bad character. It also doesn't mean the player doesn't have value to a blue blood program.

There are a small number of programs that just don't spend any time or effort in recruiting a player as talented defensively etc...UVA'S Tony Bennett has run as successful and stand up program in a rugged ACC against the power brokers like UNC, Duke, NCState, Louisville, Pittsburgh and lesser extent Wake Forest Florida State who all engage in recruiting. UVA isn't pursuing an Omoyuri or a lot of the names, one would think that winning would open up doors to.

There are the Wisconsin, Iowa', Norrhwestern, Stanford, Vanderbilt and some smaller schools that find kids that are looking for excellent coaching, facilities to develop their games, legitimate requirements towards education and can succeed. These schools can make the tournament and sustain a level of success.

A player like Omoyuri, jump starts that process towards success for a program like RU....or he sustains the lifecycles of those programs whose sole purpose is answering the bell of being in the Sweet 16 or Elite 8 every other year and the value of sustainable success at those schools, requires elite NBA caliber prospects....at any cost.

It doesn't mean RU shouldn't stay involved here...there's value in having your name nationally mentioned with a Top 50-60 kid and changes the perception of the program, even if you don't land the player. It does mean that in the 1% chance something changes, you're there....RUs season goes better than expected in 2019-2020 and Omoyuri decides to wait until the spring to decide, would be the only viable path in staying involved vs the competition with more options to offer.
 
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Silkcity Pirate

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NewJerseyHawk said:
This is the summary....it doesn't mean the player is a bad person or has bad character. It also doesn't mean the player doesn't have value to a blue blood program.

There are a small number of programs that just don't spend any time or effort in recruiting a player as talented defensively etc...UVA'S Tony Bennett has run as successful and stand up program in a rugged ACC against the power brokers like UNC, Duke, NCState, Louisville, Pittsburgh and lesser extent Wake Forest Florida State who all engage in recruiting. UVA isn't pursuing an Omoyuri or a lot of the names, one would think that winning would open up doors to.

There are the Wisconsin, Iowa', Norrhwestern, Stanford, Vanderbilt and some smaller schools that find kids that are looking for excellent coaching, facilities to develop their games, legitimate requirements towards education and can succeed. These schools can make the tournament and sustain a level of success.

A player like Omoyuri, jump starts that process towards success for a program like RU....or he sustains the lifecycles of those programs whose sole purpose is answering the bell of being in the Sweet 16 or Elite 8 every other year and the value of sustainable success at those schools, requires elite NBA caliber prospects....at any cost.

It doesn't mean RU shouldn't stay involved here...there's value in having your name nationally mentioned with a Top 50-60 kid and changes the perception of the program, even if you don't land the player. It does mean that in the 1% chance something changes, you're there....RUs season goes better than expected in 2019-2020 and Omoyuri decides to wait until the spring to decide, would be the only viable path in staying involved vs the competition with more options to offer.
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All valid points but besides going against the blue bloods you have to deal with the Roselle Catholic coaching staff a very shady group especially the assistance coaches.
 
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Pitt5593

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wheezer said:
I hope we are joking about these money offers, but not shocked if true..

If money offers are known and out there, you would think they would get nailed by the NCAA, and at minimum, the player would not play there.
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Please google an article called “ The Bagmen of the SEC”. This will give you a taste of the real world.
 
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GL213

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Russ Wood said:
Here's the thing:

It happens.

Sometimes it happens and everyone knows it happens.

The schools that are really good at it, almost don't even try to hide that it happens. What they do really well is hide the proof that it hapoens.
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Remember it's in cash,hard to find a paper trail.
 
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RUJMM78

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silkcitypirate said:
All valid points but besides going against the blue bloods you have to deal with the Roselle Catholic coaching staff a very shady group especially the assistance coaches.
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Your comments won't enhance Rutgers chances of ever attracting a Roselle Catholic recruit such as Cory Floyd.
 
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RUJMM78

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MV9000 said:
Cant say there will be a lack of effort on our end lol.
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Lack of effort by coaching staff isn't the problem in closing the deal with recruits.The problem is perception of Rutgers versus the recruiting competition .Recruits have options from teams that have a history of winning which puts Rutgers in a difficult position.I think a winning season will have a greater impact on recruiting than the opening of the practice facility.I would not be surprised that more recruits sign in the spring versus the fall.
 
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GoodOl'Rutgers

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Maybe he chooses to shock the world and picks Rutgers.

If he wants to send shockwaves with his choice.. that would do it and would be very different than all the blue chippers making the expected choices.
 
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higgins3

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Reiber is more well rounded than Bergen Catholic player. Credit to staff if they stay in it till the end. With conversation in this thread, i wouldn't judge them for stopping effort. Gotta be in to win it, though.
 
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TDIrish27

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higgins3 said:
Reiber is more well rounded than Bergen Catholic player. Credit to staff if they stay in it till the end. With conversation in this thread, i wouldn't judge them for stopping effort. Gotta be in to win it, though.
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How many times have you seen either kid play in person ?
 
MadRU

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Notre Dame, Penn State and many other schools think Zona is good enough.
 
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NewJerseyHawk

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Zona has an Ivy or ND roadmap, that was made very clear way before last season started. Don't know where ND and their board is for players but the scouting reports on Zona was his lack of defense against quicker and more mobile bigs and not being a true 5 that can run protect. His offense from 15 to 20 feet as a stationary shooter is his strength but he's going to be an overall net negative when he's not making shots, without another element to impact the game.
 
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TDIrish27

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NewJerseyHawk said:
Zona has an Ivy or ND roadmap, that was made very clear way before last season started. Don't know where ND and their board is for players but the scouting reports on Zona was his lack of defense against quicker and more mobile bigs and not being a true 5 that can run protect. His offense from 15 to 20 feet as a stationary shooter is his strength but he's going to be an overall net negative when he's not making shots, without another element to impact the game.
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I agree----think he's an A-10 or Ivy League kid.

But the RU commit is in the middle of ACC country and didn't get an ACC offer.

Just saying
 
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RU_DIO

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RUJMM78 said:
Lack of effort by coaching staff isn't the problem in closing the deal with recruits.The problem is perception of Rutgers versus the recruiting competition .Recruits have options from teams that have a history of winning which puts Rutgers in a difficult position.I think a winning season will have a greater impact on recruiting than the opening of the practice facility.I would not be surprised that more recruits sign in the spring versus the fall.
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You make great points but many times with certain recruits it comes down to financial compensation.
 
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