Kind of ironic they meet up Thur here and Rutgers is in the toilet
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See what happens when you fund NIL. They both got paid and are in the Sweet 16. This lesson is lost on you and many others.
I’ve given. It was poor investment. So why don’t you shove it. Plus we spent 3.5mm on players, what did it get us?
Yeah and St. Johns spent a bloody fortune too. Money guarantees nothing
We spent less than a million on the portal transfers. Thats why we didn’t get the return many were expecting.
It’s more than that. Despite their teammates being largely weak Big10 players, Ace and Harper didn’t boost their games any higher.
Ace and Harper were only interested in showcasing and maintaining their draft stock at the expense of team offense.
By being the main focus of opponents, Flagg on the other hand exploits that and elevates teammates with effective passing. Harper rarely did and Bailey never did.
LOL, some of you guys on this red board are delusional. But yeah it’s all on Ace & Dylan as to why the rest of the team couldn’t hit their shots, rebound, box out or play defense.
Not on D but they absolutely hindered what would have a better offense if they shared the ball. Those two and Lathan were such black holes that science can’t explain how light escaped the court and reached our eyes.
For the money they got shouldn’t Ace and Dylan have played defense, boxed out and closed out too. So many on here say we’re so underfunded but we had a good amount of payroll on the court last year and won only 15 games.
You just love to deflect and move the goal posts. You all love to complain but you all have just started what is going to be the next 30+ year NCAA drought. Forget about a name coach coming here. Can’t wait for the excuses as to why you don’t give then. There is no running out the clock and NIL going away. RU will hustle fall further behind and it will eventually impact all sports.
If you couldn’t see that Ace and Harper didn’t share the ball vis a vis team offense then this CBB is simply beyond your grasp.
Pike enabled because he’s soft. Pitino on the other hand benched his best player toward the end of the tourney loss because he selfishly kept chucking and had no assists. As much as Shelby dislikes Pitino for other reasons, it’s nice to see he didn’t tolerate that crap.
Pike shouldn’t have either, and that spineless hc / star players dynamic all year long probably cost the team an ncaa bid.
"We" cut this out.. no Rutgers didn't spend 3.5 Million.. if Rutgers spent 3.5 million on players this team would actually be good..two players got actual NIL deals because of their unique talents. Do you guys not understand this? Ace and Dylan would be paid regardless of where they went, whatever Rutgers gave to martini, dervack, Acuff and Hayes that's what RUTGERS paid for. Do you guys not understand this or do you purposefully misrepresent the situation?
This guy still talking about Flagg. You don't know ball at all, just a troll spewing nonsense referring to yourself in the third person. Duke has an actual real center..Duke starts two veteran guards that run the offense and control the game. New age social media sports fan just here for drama and trolling..
Wild that ppl don’t see this. Cooper has a defined role, got better as the season went in and had way better talent around him.
We didn’t have the luxury to let our freshman grown in to their roles because we had no real roles or structure (coaching) and lacked reliable talent in the supporting roles (Duke still won the ACC w/o Flagg)
Smh
Guarantee RUFan4life gives pennies to NIL, yet he feels it necessary to chime in on every post using NIL as an excuse for everything
Of course Duke has more talent. And they have a cohesive offense without stars who kill any flow and purpose. Ace probably held the ball on the wing waiting to figure out how he’d get a shot off 500 times this year, and shoot he did while everyone else just stood around and watched. And Sommerville’s PPG stat should reflect Passes Per Game: zero.
RU was the only high major program to not have a single portal player average 7 ppg. That’s less about talent and more about Harper and Bailey being black hole hotshots looking to stay atop the draft board with prolific scoring. Fact
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You obviously missed the part where I told you I gave and it was a bad investment. I’m wasting time on you.
Did you ever check out any games and hear coach pike beg ace to take more shots? I know I have, when your jump shooters aren't hitting jump shots it's going to be on the players capable of making one on one moves to score over defenders. Hayes, martini, Acuff, dervack all struggled to score early in the year...Ace in particular played a team first game as he was relegated to being the defacto center. Banging with big big ten bodies in the paint is not what he signed up for but he did it and his offense suffered because of it. But he lead the team in rebounds and blocked shots, also was the best defender on the team this last year guarding all 5 positions at some point in the game. Dylan created many opportunities for teammates and led the team in assists would have had more if his teammates made more shots..
I like this new narrative that we needed JWill, Davis and Derlack taking MORE shots.
That is was Ace and Dylan shunting their scoring.
Did Ace and Dylan make them all shoot under 30% from 3 in their years prior to Rutgers too?
That is was Ace and Dylan shunting their scoring.
Did Ace and Dylan make them all shoot under 30% from 3 in their years prior to Rutgers too?
Luckily Ace and Dylan are gone so our "offensive stars" can shine next season.
Duke has elite starters at every position .Rutgers had two elite players who were double teamed and the rest of the roster shot bricks and played no defense.
NO WE DID NOT. Jesus ******* Christ put down the agenda for a sec. 3.5mm was spent, by third parties, that allowed us to get two specific players. That money was not available for, for example, Cliff. Cliff by all indications got offers for MORE THAN OUR ENTIRE BUDGET.
Everyone will understand how our budget worked better this year and where the money came from and went when they see the product we can afford to put on the court with OUR money and nobody elses
Lathan, Dylan, Acuff, Dercack and Jwill as a starting 5 with Manny, PJ, Jmike and Dortch as your bench wins maybe 6 games all year
Lathan, Dylan, Acuff, Dercack and Jwill as a starting 5 with Manny, PJ, Jmike and Dortch as your bench wins maybe 6 games all year
There are many reasons. There are countless charities that need money now more than ever. There are also significant others and other family members that would rather have discretionary money spent on the family. It also makes sense to put money away for retirement. If a fan likes coffee they should buy themselves a Starbucks drink instead of giving it to last year's starting guard at Texas Tech. Fans should not be shamed in to paying the players.
Hes not saying that...in comparison to other schools RU had over $3 million in salary on 2 players...yes not paid for by RU but you cannot just not include it when comparing to other big 10 schools. In total money Rutgers would be in the top part of the league
It means Pike was terrible in using that additional $1 million. Majority of teams aren't paying 1 million to their 5 starters...at least not this season
EXCUSES! Get out the checkbook now, you mediocrity accepting subhuman.
It's true that you can't not include it, but you also cannot just add it on to the NIL that we had available.
If that $3mm was our money it could have been much, much, much, much, ... (100 times), much more efficienctly spent than that. That was outside money that just evened the playing field for two players.
Did we even have $1mm? Yes I agree he didn't use it well but that's different than claiming he squandered $4mm or whatever.
I think it was about a million...also we had a million from Vegas tourney to dangle. I know not confirmed until later but it was all but done deal RU was playing there in late March
Maybe. It's annoying how much contradictory information is out there. I am more inclined to believe the "we had almost $0 to spend" reports because they track closer to how the roster eventually ended up being put together.
But regardless of Vegas money or whatever, I will maintain that having Ace/Dylan get $x from outside sources is way, way, way less useful than simply having $x to spend on pay for play as we see fit.
I still think the missing link between a lot of the contradictory reports is that Ace/Dylan got a bunch of "our" NIL money as well. But others say that is not true and who really knows.