Class is really huge

ScooterSports

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All 2 and 3 stars. Feels like an Ash class. I thought we brought Schiano in to recruit better. I'll give him a couple more years but this isn't encouraging.
I mean the 2022 class was very solid. That class had six 4* recruits if you include Wimsatt. I think losing Fran Brown really hurt this class. But so far to me 2024 seems like it’ll be closer to 2022 than 23.
 
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NickRU714

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I mean the 2022 class was very solid. That class had six 4* recruits if you include Wimsatt. I think losing Fran Brown really hurt this class. But so far to me 2024 seems like it’ll be closer to 2022 than 23.

Was intrigued by your last sentence and the seemingly good prospects for 2024.
Looked and we only have 1 commit who seems to be outside the NJ Top 25 with offers from UConn and Temple?

This is why I don't bother with recruiting and figuring out how the class is ranked and if it means anything.
 

ScooterSports

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Was intrigued by your last sentence and the seemingly good prospects for 2024.
Looked and we only have 1 commit who seems to be outside the NJ Top 25 with offers from UConn and Temple?

This is why I don't bother with recruiting and figuring out how the class is ranked and if it means anything.
yea but Rutgers at least seems to be looking good for good recruits. Currently looks like the #1 for a 4* receiver and Erasmus Hall has a 4* that Rutgers looks in a pretty good position with.
 

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All 2 and 3 stars. Feels like an Ash class. I thought we brought Schiano in to recruit better. I'll give him a couple more years but this isn't encouraging.
With Ash, he didn't have to worry about buying recruits...well, at least on the up and up. Greg has his hands full and very little purchasing power. The lack of a named OC is going to hurt the offensive side of recruiting. I'm still thinking/hoping our OC is known at this point to the staff and recruits, but hasn't been named yet because he is involved in a bowl game. If not, WTH with our OC?!?!?!?
 
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I would be concerned if most of the recruits were 2 stars, but what is the difference between a 3-star and 4-star player?

Probably a need to get bigger/stronger/lose baby fat, lack of major media coverage, etc. or his high school didn't play high level schools.

Greg has taken lower rated players to NFL as starters.
 

RU#1fan

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Specifically,. who would call a play in the red zone that would take advantage of a 6-8 WR instead of running a QB turned TE up the middle 3 times? And would Schiano allow this hypothetical OC to actually call such a play in that situation?
Schiano would be to busy on the sidelines talking to his Kicker/Punter talking strategy.
 
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ashokan

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Does the name McCourty ring a bell? 2 stars.


Army took highly ranked Michigan and Oklahoma into three overtimes - lost to Wisconsin 20-14
I don't know if Army ever had a 4 *
Kelly won BE with a bunch of no star ham-n-eggers
TCU and Boise had great teams with mediocre recruits.
Conversely there was a stretch where FSU was getting top classes in the nation but losing 2-5 games a year
Some 4* and 5* players are nice but RU had great players in 2007 and still had a poor red zone.
I don't wait for savior recruits and recruiters.
Savage was a great QB recruit and RU wrecked him
 

T2Kplus20

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All 2 and 3 stars. Feels like an Ash class. I thought we brought Schiano in to recruit better. I'll give him a couple more years but this isn't encouraging.
Does it really matter? Any players that became stars will just leave for SEC NIL money. The highest bidder rules the day. Hard to get excited anymore.
 

ashokan

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Anyone else remember 6'6" Ramsey Barden on the Giants? I was so excited for him. What a bust.

WR height isn't all it's cracked up to be.


Giants were trying to find Plaxico 2.0
Only recently did I realize how good Plax actually was
I was watching a YouTube of all the TDs between Manning and Plax
Those two made a great tandom
People forget that in the David Tyree Super Bowl win Burress had two TDs
Eli was a great long ball thrower

 
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czxqa

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Army took highly ranked Michigan and Oklahoma into three overtimes - lost to Wisconsin 20-14
I don't know if Army ever had a 4 *
Kelly won BE with a bunch of no star ham-n-eggers
TCU and Boise had great teams with mediocre recruits.
Conversely there was a stretch where FSU was getting top classes in the nation but losing 2-5 games a year
Some 4* and 5* players are nice but RU had great players in 2007 and still had a poor red zone.
I don't wait for savior recruits and recruiters.
Savage was a great QB recruit and RU wrecked him
Hang on now, that's not true about Tommy. It's been discussed to death. The helicopter father, the girlfriend he spent the summer at the beach with instead of learning the new Captain Kirk schemes with his teammates, checking out a bit after making freshman all American, etc. Bottom line he was young, got bad advice and made some less than perfect decisions, as many of us did at that age. In the end he wanted to come back, and the only reason we didn't take him was because he couldn't get the waiver to have to sit a year and our schollie situation was we couldn't give one for a sit out year. Otherwise he would have finished here instead of Pitt, and he made the NFL anyway.
 

ashokan

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Hang on now, that's not true about Tommy. It's been discussed to death. The helicopter father, the girlfriend he spent the summer at the beach with instead of learning the new Captain Kirk schemes with his teammates, checking out a bit after making freshman all American, etc. Bottom line he was young, got bad advice and made some less than perfect decisions, as many of us did at that age. In the end he wanted to come back, and the only reason we didn't take him was because he couldn't get the waiver to have to sit a year and our schollie situation was we couldn't give one for a sit out year. Otherwise he would have finished here instead of Pitt, and he made the NFL anyway.

Savage was having bad seizures after hits with the Texans
Rutgers is where he was first getting beat-up and concussed - he was prone that way
The problem really got bad in 2010 when RU set D1 sacks allowed record
More concussions and damaged ribs were spooking everyone since the concussion hysteria was getting started them.
Savage was a pocket passer and RU pockets lasted a few nanoseconds before the hits poured-in
Savage was big and not too mobile - he had a habit of taking full impacts
Physically Savage was becoming a mess in 2010 and I know the family was concerned - any family would have been at that time (hysteria).
Savage was the best QB I ever saw at Rutgers
He had to be the momentum leader for program growth
Alas RU could not recruit OL and 2010 became a disaster
Throw in EL's injury and it was the worst season I ever saw in college football.
Schiano seemed tired after all that and he left not long after.
The the Flood/Ash disasters kicked in.
RU football was never the same after 2010
I know there were some god seasons and games like Michigan but those were coming on with Schiano players and coaching.
Flood never had Schiano's command presence and gravitas - he was a happy puppy passing out Popsicles and the team went to seed





 
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Anyone else remember 6'6" Ramsey Barden on the Giants? I was so excited for him. What a bust.

WR height isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Tall guys usually get easily jammed and have a hard time getting off the line.
 

RUforlife

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All 2 and 3 stars. Feels like an Ash class. I thought we brought Schiano in to recruit better. I'll give him a couple more years but this isn't encouraging.
He brought in Fran Brown, I thought we were headed in the right direction, he should have found a way to keep him, promotion and/or pay.
 
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Pils86

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Savage was having bad seizures after hits with the Texans
Rutgers is where he was first getting beat-up and concussed - he was prone that way
The problem really got bad in 2010 when RU set D1 sacks allowed record
More concussions and damaged ribs were spooking everyone since the concussion hysteria was getting started them.
Savage was a pocket passer and RU pockets lasted a few nano seconds before the hits poured-in
Savage was big and not too mobile - he had a habit of taking full impacts
Physically Savage was becoming a mess in 2010 and I know the family was concerned - any family would have been at that time (hysteria).
Savage was the best QB I ever saw at Rutgers
He had to be the momentum leader for program growth
Alas RU could not recruit OL and 2010 became a disaster
Throw in EL's injury and it was the worst season I ever saw in college football.
Schiano seemed tired after all that and he left not long after.
The the Flood/Ash disasters kicked in.
RU football was never the same after 2010
I know there were some god seasons and games like Michigan but those were coming on with Schiano players and coaching.
Flood never had Schiano's command presence and gravitas - he was a happy puppy passing out Popsicles and the team went to seed






This hit would be a penalty today, and rightfully so.
 
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RUinPAC10land

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With Ash, he didn't have to worry about buying recruits...well, at least on the up and up. Greg has his hands full and very little purchasing power. The lack of a named OC is going to hurt the offensive side of recruiting. I'm still thinking/hoping our OC is known at this point to the staff and recruits, but hasn't been named yet because he is involved in a bowl game. If not, WTH with our OC?!?!?!?

The offense was not good but blaming Sean for this was a stupid move. He needed time to build his offense and now RU is going to miss on a lot of portal players and recruits because of Greg's impatience. This also has to make a lot of potential OC's shy away from taking the job as well. I am a Greg supporter but once again, this was moronic.
 
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