Now that Bookie's gone and others to follow...might as well get the ball rolling. Can't see any reason to not start over.
Class imploding the final nail in the coffin?
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Yep. Nothing impressive on the field, recruits leaving and with Riley I doubt we come close to achieving a full recruiting class. He’s a great guy but it’s time to cut bait.
You got it backward. The final nails in the coffin was losing to Northern Illinois and the AD being fired. The class imploding is a result of having a lame duck staff
Is it really? Bookie says he was solid on Nebraska through April. What happened in April to cause him to have second thoughts?
Class imploding is the effect of Riley’s tenure ending. Not the cause.
He didn’t even commit until April. I don’t think what he wrote is what he is trying to say. If he was struggling with the decision in April why commit?
This. I doubt that Bookie would have decommitted without all the doubt concerning Riley's future. The death spiral was set in motion when Eichorst was fired. Bookie seemed to be "all in" as a Husker before that event.
But this does put Moos in a difficult situation. Because even if he retains Riley, it is very clear that this is just a stay of execution pending appeals. And the appeal is next season's results. So what if goes 7-5 or 6-6 or worse next year which is possible given our schedule? He will be fired. So even if he is retained, there is enough doubt in the air about his future to give any recruit pause.
Sad to say but it seems at this point a foregone conclusion that Riley will be fired. You almost have to at this point in order to hit the reset button. I just hope we get a new coach quickly so that he can try and salvage some semblance of a recruiting class this year
Yep, if you bring him back and he is viewed as a lame duck, you sabotage two recruiting classes. We really did not handle this very well, but nothing we can do now, have to move forward.
Okay but he does say he wanted to be a part of the Husker family from Feb 2016 to Apr 2017. My guess is he immediately regretted his decision but didn't know how to decommit. He's getting wined and dined by elite teams now. I wouldn't play for Nebraska either if I was visiting schools like Clemson and Oklahoma.
I think it's been handled fine. Riley & Co. are gone, period. Anybody thinking otherwise hasn't been paying attention.
...which is why the program leadership (now under Moos) needs to be advancing the behind-the-scenes discussions asap if not sooner.
Things may be ramping up in this regard.
Maybe, but as you said it’s a guess. He also chose to do a blog for Land of Ten well after the fact. He was given plenty of opportunities to decommit, from the IMG phot shoot to any number of interviews the past 6 months. The point of the matter is this class will fall apart and Bookie isn’t the last player to bail on this class. The class falling apart is a result of the Riley lame duck status not the cause of it.
UCF have any recruits we can poach? I hear they might be losing their coach to.
Has he had a full class yet?
Players don't show up...
He's bo with a smile. NU deserves better.
Nothing I have heard directly.....more indirectly.
Many in this cycle know that Riley will not be retained it seems. If you see a couple of more decommit quickly, I am sure you can draw your own conclusions on this.
. You don't need me to spell it out for you.Also, what if our top HC target becomes the top target of another school? Hence, the things may be ramping up comment. This paragraph is just speculation and adding 1 and 1 on my part, however.
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Riley was fired 4 years ago...sadly SE didn't tell him.
I really feel for Riley by all accounts he worked hard, he fired Banker his friend and did have to deal with the toxicity from the Pelini era. The issue is that he should never have hired in the first place, Eichorst and Perlman are the root cause of all this upheaval both to our program and to these coaches.
It never should have happened, Riley could have retired from OSU as the coach who built that program to heights they had never been. Now he will retire as the coach who took us to Purdues level
They need to pull the bandaids off for all concerned
Just for clarification: do Riley and co. share any blame for their lame duck status?
I feel bad for the players. Some of these guys have real talent, and some are probably giving their all. They are kids with dreams, and need/deserve better leadership to maximize their potential.
What the hell difference does it make? But yes not winning enough games has led to their lame duck status. But that doesn’t change the fact that the AD being fired and losing to Northern Illinois were the final nails in the coffin. The implosion of the recruiting class is a result of that. Had the recruiting class stayed intact Riley would still be getting fired at the end of the year.
Had you read the whole thread and not one post you might have seen that I already addressed that.
It makes no difference at all, I just hope this whole thing settled quicker rather than later
So why delay the inevitable with the slow bleed of recruits? Pull a FL and fire MR now...get a jump-start on bringing in the next coach to get momentum moving up on the morale and recruiting fronts instead of the constant feeling of impending doom and a recruiting class of 6.
Who's going to commit to this staff? At least we'd be asking who is or will be committing when a new coach is hired as opposed to what we have now which is taking bets on who's next to leave the recruiting class on the first thing smoking. Why twist in the wind?
The only people twisting in the wind are the ones who think Riley is being retained. Recruits are bailing. Riley should have been fired with Eichorst but he wasn’t. No sane person is going to be asking who is the next to commit. We don’t even know who the next head coach will be.
You can do things behind the scenes without announcing your intentions.
Our HC targets are not going to just up and leave their current positions to come here, nor would they want it announced in the middle of a season that they were leaving to come here.
Recruiting? That isn't going to make a difference in keeping recruits....or gaining traction with new ones. Three weeks ain't making a difference at this point.
I don't say this with glee, I like Mike, but the coffin was shopped for after Ark St, was selected at halftime of the Oregon game, and the body was laid to rest and the lid nailed shut immediately following the NIU game. The dirt was shoveled after Wisconsin and the headstone was set after tOSU. Now that the denial, deals and grief are over, everyone needs to move on.
At least Callahan had a fun offense.
Moos will fire the fans. It's been made clear to me it's OUR fault Mike can't get the right commits because we don't hug him enough.
This, I hate....but it is pretty damn funny.