Class A scheduling idea

hailvictors2

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This is honestly the worst idea I've ever heard. I wonder if Ron will be supplying the orange slices and grape juice at halftime of each of these games. Quit trying to liberalize everything. Its high school football, not pee-wee soccer.
 

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The NSAA already provides several "outlets" for schools like the bottom 10 in class A. They can opt down (schools like SSC have done this). They can get involved in a coop. A coop is something that would be absolutely beneficial for schools like Benson/Bryan/ONW. I pray this idea of Ron's gets no serious attention.
 

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Wow. I doubt this gets any serious play, but I am surprised you guys would toss it aside so quickly. Obviously, these schools have enough enrollment to field football teams and yet they are struggling for numbers because it's tough to get people to come out when you are losing 53-0, 47-6, 62-0....

This is basically creating two conferences: one strong that gets 14 playoff berths; and one weak, that gets two spots (the bottom two in fact!). I don't think that's 'giving' anyone anything. It seems like a sound educational strategy to help the bottom of Class A get on its feet.

I think American football as a whole would be better by adopting these European level-up division formats. Football suffers from a lack of data (so few games) that formats like this help sort things in positive ways.
 
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Wow. I doubt this gets any serious play, but I am surprised you guys would toss it aside so quickly. Obviously, these schools have enough enrollment to field football teams and yet they are struggling for numbers because it's tough to get people to come out when you are losing 53-0, 47-6, 62-0....

This is basically creating two conferences: one strong that gets 14 playoff berths; and one weak, that gets two spots (the bottom two in fact!). I don't think that's 'giving' anyone anything. It seems like a sound educational strategy to help the bottom of Class A get on its feet.

I think American football as a whole would be better by adopting these European level-up division formats. Football suffers from a lack of data (so few games) that formats like this help sort things in positive ways.

get better or play another sport, so tired of this please help me crap, I can't do it without a handout. You want to have open enrollment so you can choose your school then someone is going to get short end of the stick in a city and you can not have your cake and eat it also
 
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You're advocating schools dropping football? As a 'high school football nut', you think that makes the overall sport better in Nebraska? Maybe your handle is ironic, and I missed it?
 
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You're advocating schools dropping football? As a 'high school football nut', you think that makes the overall sport better in Nebraska? Maybe your handle is ironic, and I missed it?
sports has winners and losers no matter what you do, you will still have both Get better Get to work and stop looking for handouts
 
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You're advocating schools dropping football? As a 'high school football nut', you think that makes the overall sport better in Nebraska? Maybe your handle is ironic, and I missed it?
i offer another solution, a bunch of the unbalance is due to open enrollment, well if you really want to go because the education is better at that school then lets try this. all open enrollment students can not participate in any nsaa sports, or do STUDY AND TELL ME WHAT DO THESE SCHOOLS HAVE IN COMMON, not just i think its because but actual facts between the schools, show some data that these schools have in common. Start with hard core data not just change it because we can not win, help us please
 
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Wow. I doubt this gets any serious play, but I am surprised you guys would toss it aside so quickly. Obviously, these schools have enough enrollment to field football teams and yet they are struggling for numbers because it's tough to get people to come out when you are losing 53-0, 47-6, 62-0....

This is basically creating two conferences: one strong that gets 14 playoff berths; and one weak, that gets two spots (the bottom two in fact!). I don't think that's 'giving' anyone anything. It seems like a sound educational strategy to help the bottom of Class A get on its feet.

I think American football as a whole would be better by adopting these European level-up division formats. Football suffers from a lack of data (so few games) that formats like this help sort things in positive ways.
A better strategy to help these teams get back on their feet would be to play together (coop) under existing rules so nobody has to suffer. Or for the Lincoln schools to add junior high footballl.....that would help.

Assume Ron's proposal came into action....how would you like to be Fremont? Columbus? Norfolk? Those teams might have 1 winnable game on their schedule because we took the bottom 10 out. This literally solve nothing....all that will happen is a new set of teams will go 0-9 or 1-8.
 
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You don't understand this until your part of it. The kids at a lot of these Group of 10 schools lift weights, go to football camps and have good coaching also. Every week in Class A you see scores with teams winning by 50,60,70 points and this is with a running clock... what good does that do for either team? College Football has "Power Conferences" so what is wrong with high school footbal doing the same? Let schools play schools of similar ability for "most" of their games. Its better for the kids and better for the game of football.
SO BASICALLY JUST LIBERAL THE HELL OUT OF FOOTBALL, Facts man show me some facts not we just can not do it, help us, give it to us ,please we want it so give us a winning season OMG They all have something in common is it social economics, ELL, free and reduced, lost to open enrollment, what are the facts, but instead of these schools looking into facts and putting some work into it, they do nothing, they just complain and cry, and in doing nothing but cry we really no the reason now
 
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You don't understand this until your part of it. The kids at a lot of these Group of 10 schools lift weights, go to football camps and have good coaching also. Every week in Class A you see scores with teams winning by 50,60,70 points and this is with a running clock... what good does that do for either team? College Football has "Power Conferences" so what is wrong with high school footbal doing the same? Let schools play schools of similar ability for "most" of their games. Its better for the kids and better for the game of football.
Again, someone tell me why a Class A coop isnt the answer. Two teams that are less than 10 miles apart...both of them are historically bad on their own. Combine and make a decent group. There isn't a bad thing that can come out of it, and it punishes nobody.
 
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What would happen if we went back to close enrollment. If you truly wanted to transfer schools you have to move into the district. No opting out, no waiver to transfer. Not always, but in some cases your better athletes are your school leaders and when these athletes leave for greener pastures you potentially losing some leaders that can get other athletes to buy into a vision of improvement. It just takes a spark to ignite a flame, but when the potential spark leaves what is left. I don't know if this is answer, but just a thought that if we went back to closed districts would that change the landscape. Another thought is that if you close the public school districts then students would be more likely to transfer to private school. Again just thoughts, what do other people think.
 
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What would happen if we went back to close enrollment. If you truly wanted to transfer schools you have to move into the district. No opting out, no waiver to transfer. Not always, but in some cases your better athletes are your school leaders and when these athletes leave for greener pastures you potentially losing some leaders that can get other athletes to buy into a vision of improvement. It just takes a spark to ignite a flame, but when the potential spark leaves what is left. I don't know if this is answer, but just a thought that if we went back to closed districts would that change the landscape. Another thought is that if you close the public school districts then students would be more likely to transfer to private school. Again just thoughts, what do other people think.
again show me facts that this is what is happening in the schools that lose, if these schools really believe they can not ever win, then show me why