CL update.. Freeze advoctes changing state flag

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The University should never had issued a statement that required "reading between the lines". And it pigeon-holed Dan. Either make a plain statement that the University supports changing the flag, or say nothing at all.
 

thatsbaseball

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May 29, 2007
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Yep the "leadership" of this state "is what it is" but still controls the purse strings. Just got to play it smart sometimes.
 

RebelBruiser

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Aug 21, 2007
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We don't have a problem at MSU, we actually have the highest percentage of African Americans enrolled in school in the SEC...

Give it up...

So again then, why the waffling? If everything is sunshine and racial rainbows at MSU, why isn't your administration willing to take a firm stance on something that should be REALLY easy to do? This issue is a slam dunk issue. It's a common sense issue. It's not hard at all.

Who are they worried about angering if MSU is the bastion of racial harmony that you all seem to paint it to be?

And that's the point I'm trying to make.

It's easy just to try to deflect, deflect, deflect, and I'll grant you that we've made it easy for you to do so historically, but this is an issue that doesn't need to be deflected, or it shouldn't.

The only reason why I could see them taking the strategy they are is because they feel that they'd piss off a decent portion of your fan base if they had the nerve to stand up against the flag. I can't think of any other reason.
 

LawDawg97

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There is no waffling you 17ing moron. The MSU statement is arguably stronger

So again then, why the waffling?

than the statement of the Governor and Lieutenant Governor. Have you read theirs? If this is such an "easy" issue then why haven't they called a special session to change it next week?

Why don't you send one of your essays in a letter to the editor and ask them that and quit worrying so much about ours.
 

ShrubDog

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Apr 13, 2008
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RB when will your school take the real initiative and ban Ole Miss and the Rebel from all branding propaganda? Yall have the biggest deflector shields on the real problem. UM has a direct responsibility to those objects. Our school and coach have no direct responsibility in the flag issue. Only opinions on what people want to hear.
 

Hump4Hoops

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Also HC queen in 2001. Also Mr. MSU in 2008. Also..

I know we had an African American homecoming queen in 1998 because I knew her and I was there when she was crowned. Your first was in 2012 and it made headlines because it was such a big deal for your school.

It must suck making arguments you can't win.

National Board President in 2012. And who can forget about our 2013 Rhodes Scholar? Hell even the head peeper himself. This is all from light Googling - African Americans elected in leadership positions and/or popularity contests is just not as big of a deal at Mississippi State as it is at ole miss, as hard as Rebel Bruiser is trying to dispute that. Electing a black homecoming queen for the first time says great things about the current culture of the institution, but also says very bad things about its recent past.

Both institutions are far less racist than outside parties like to believe, and both have more terrible fans than they would like to admit. Ole miss, thanks in large part to "Rebel," the school colors, the confederate flag, and the Colonel himelf, have amassed the worst racists of all sidewalk fans. This is not the folks you see on NAFOOM, as much as we love to poke fun.

Describing the finger pointing as "the pot calling the kettle black" has some merit, but there are just more factors - in both perception and history - that make ole miss the most visible, important voice when it comes to the confederate symbol and race relations in Mississippi college athletics.
 
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According to my copy of Maroon and White, Steven Cooper was MSU's first African American student association president in 1988. Kelvin Covington was the first VP that same year, and I know he was president himself in 1990.
 
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