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dwr4msu

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I was looking up some populations and I wondered about Starkville. When I pulled this up, it compared Tupelo and Oxford with Starkville. It appears Oxford has almost caught Starkville in population over the past two decades. Funny, I would have though Starkville had grown more. What are the reasons? I know it just counts city limits. Perhaps Oxford has done some annexing? Or has their been some economic growth I'm not aware of? Just curious.


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bruiser.sixpack

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There has been significantly more new construction inside Oxford City Limits than Starkville. Oxford has 2 public high schools with higher ratings than Starkville HS. No high priced private school in Oxford. Seems like most of the money in Starkville is Old money while newer money is settling in Oxford.

I hope Starkville never gets a Target, sleeze ball company that they are. But we definitely need more high paying jobs, significant industry and a Dogwood style development.
 

My Bru

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When talking about towns that close, a student here or there not filling out paperwork could swing numbers.

I suggest looking at total metros or job numbers, something like that. Oxford is kinda on an island alone but has Memphis within an hour, while MSU is farther from a bigger metro but has Columbus and West Point in close enough proximity that they essentially share resources and are considered the same place.
 

DeltaChicagoDog

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I'm from the Delta and know/know of a number of couples who retired to Oxford once their children were out of the house and more established. Not sure if it's a trend that holds statewide or not. For some couples, the decision was influenced by the adult children not returning to their hometown to live and work.
 

RocketDawg

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New city population estimates (for July 2019) will be released by the Census Bureau in May. County estimates were released a few weeks ago.
 
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The best real estate in Starkville is in the cotton district. I have always understood that the ownership of most of that property is by one person.

Am I wrong that Dan Camp having ownership of much of this real estate (and basically sitting on it and doing very little with it) has severely hampered what should be a fantastic area!
 
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I was looking up some populations and I wondered about Starkville. When I pulled this up, it compared Tupelo and Oxford with Starkville. It appears Oxford has almost caught Starkville in population over the past two decades. Funny, I would have though Starkville had grown more. What are the reasons? I know it just counts city limits. Perhaps Oxford has done some annexing? Or has their been some economic growth I'm not aware of? Just curious.


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Oxford has expanded Significantly and added new businesses and restaurants. Several shopping places for women. There are twice as many good restaurants in Oxford as Starkville. I wish Starkville would up it’s game. The best place to eat close to Starkville isn’t in Starkville. It’s at Anthony’s in West Point. Starkville needs more businesses. More Quality places to eat. They don’t need any more mediocre garbage places.
 

Nicephorus

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I'm from the Delta and know/know of a number of couples who retired to Oxford once their children were out of the house and more established. Not sure if it's a trend that holds statewide or not. For some couples, the decision was influenced by the adult children not returning to their hometown to live and work.

There is a substantially larger local healthcare community in Oxford which is important for retirees. When combined with the natural draw of a college town, probably explains why it has become a popular retirement destination. I imagine this also helps the schools because these people are paying property taxes without utilizing the school system.
 

JungRebel

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Oxford has annexed at least one good swath of land that I am aware of recently. If I'm not mistaken Starkville still covers a bigger area.
 

My Bru

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Oxford has expanded Significantly and added new businesses and restaurants. Several shopping places for women. There are twice as many good restaurants in Oxford as Starkville. I wish Starkville would up it’s game. The best place to eat close to Starkville isn’t in Starkville. It’s at Anthony’s in West Point. Starkville needs more businesses. More Quality places to eat. They don’t need any more mediocre garbage places.
You have to have demand for that. It happens naturally and comes second, it's not an economic engine. Oxford is a different animal than MSU. Again, closer to the Memphis Metro and significantly more rich kids with parents' money to spend. More people will come there for a night or so, and leave.

MSU actually needs better lodging options, because most people that come, stay a few days. And they can't be super expensive.
 

My Bru

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The best real estate in Starkville is in the cotton district. I have always understood that the ownership of most of that property is by one person.

Am I wrong that Dan Camp having ownership of much of this real estate (and basically sitting on it and doing very little with it) has severely hampered what should be a fantastic area!
What should be? Last time I checked it's been a fantastic area since at least the late 90s, and only getting better. COVID might wipe out a lot of things in Starkville but it won't wipe out the Cotton District.
 

bruiser.sixpack

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You have to have demand for that. It happens naturally and comes second, it's not an economic engine. Oxford is a different animal than MSU. Again, closer to the Memphis Metro and significantly more rich kids with parents' money to spend. More people will come there for a night or so, and leave.

MSU actually needs better lodging options, because most people that come, stay a few days. And they can't be super expensive.

This is a reason we need industry, expansions in large volume National chain and regional chain businesses, and other recreational and entertainment venues other than this related to MSU. Hotels will not come to provide extra rooms for 7 weekends in the fall, and 10 weekends in the spring, and the few weeks of camps, orientation and graduation. There needs to be 70 to 80% occupant for Major hoteliers and even modest rate hotel chains to build properties. Starkville cannot promise that when Columbus and West Point also offer hotel rooms within 22 miles.

Oxford has Batesville to the west and New Albany to the east but neither have major hoteliers. So they have similar lodging issues.

I have my suspicions about why’s Oxford is considered a better retirement choice than
Starkville . Heck, we have had well known State grads and former State athletes retire in Oxford.

No need to focus on that reason. But I kind of mentioned it in my other post.
 

fedxdog

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Definitely moving from the Delta. I was playing golf in Oxford with a Delta banker...his quote "the Delta is dead!"
 

Go Budaw

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I seem to recall Oxford doing a couple of annexations over the past decade or so, which was evidenced by their population growing substantially while Lafayette County as a whole more or less stayed the same. Oktibbeha / Lafayette have both had mid 40k-ish population for awhile and have been pretty close to the same forever, regardless of the city limits of their biggest cities.
 

blackjackdog3

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Many reasons for Starkville’s lack of growth but start with city leadership the last 15 years. The public school system is not stellar and the private school situation isn’t much if any better. The hospital situation has been in turmoil with at least 1-2 county supervisors constantly pressing to sell the hospital thus inhibiting physician recruitment.
 

CoastTrash

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Oxford has a US federal courthouse, which brings business folks in town regularly. Due to a lack of vision by state leadership, Aberdeen also has such but not Starkville.
 

RocketDawg

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July 2019 estimates (the ones just released) have Oktibbeha at 49,587 and Lafayette at 54,019. LaFayette is considerbly larger in area than Oktibbeha though (632 vs 458 square miles, or 38% larger).