Chesney at UCLA

[KingLando]

I don't think the problem is Matt Campbell. It's the dummy that fired Franklin w/o a plan. Shoud have waited until the end of the year. t
Try to pay/keep some of our talent. In any case,I have to give the guy a few years to judge him and his team.

Can you explain how waiting until to the end of the year would have helped?

 

[Big_O]

Penn State lost 49 to the portal, took in 41 portal, 21 seniors, 0 grad students,
graduated around 20, signed 15 out of HS.

UCLA lost 29 to portal, took in 42 portal, 36 seniors, 25 grad students.
graduated high 20's, signed 20 out of HS.

Not quite the numbers I found. According to Sports Illustrated Penn State lost 47 to the portal. Other sources stated 46. There were 30 football players who participated in senior day (Daily Collegian and Penn Live). Almost the entire 20+ recruiting class was lost and CMC was able to sign 15 (various sources). CMC was able to get 39 through the portal, almost all 3* players. And 8 of those players were part of the signing class, so that’s really only 31 net if you count a signing class of 15. Multiple departing players were 4* and therefore both quality and quantity of players suffered.

 

[pendal1]

I still don't believe that to be true and 2025's roster proves we can and will spend

The NIL information seems to indicate we spend approximately 29-32 million on NIL. That is behind Ohio State, Michigan, Indiana, Oregon, USC, and Nebraska alone in this conference and Wisconsin is our equal. And the gap is another 20 million and that's only in our conference.
That's not Pirates level but I don't see us competing for titles if we a middling program in terms of resources.

 

[NEPA Lion]

Not quite the numbers I found. According to Sports Illustrated Penn State lost 47 to the portal. Other sources stated 46. There were 30 football players who participated in senior day (Daily Collegian and Penn Live). Almost the entire 20+ recruiting class was lost and CMC was able to sign 15 (various sources). CMC was able to get 39 through the portal, almost all 3* players. And 8 of those players were part of the signing class, so that’s really only 31 net if you count a signing class of 15. Multiple departing players were 4* and therefore both quality and quantity of players suffered.

I had a different source, what i was implying is UCLA on paper seems to have an advantage over us.
Watching games up to now the portal players we lost are better contributors to their respective teams
than the ones we took in.

 

[Big_O]

I had a different source, what i was implying is UCLA on paper seems to have an advantage over us.
Watching games up to now the portal players we lost are better contributors to their respective teams
than the ones we took in.

I wasn’t arguing with you. Actually, I was agreeing with you. UCLA had an advantage over Penn State. Plus I would argue that California is a more fertile recruiting ground compared to Pennsylvania unlike 30-40 years ago.

 

[KingLando]

The NIL information seems to indicate we spend approximately 29-32 million on NIL. That is behind Ohio State, Michigan, Indiana, Oregon, USC, and Nebraska alone in this conference and Wisconsin is our equal. And the gap is another 20 million and that's only in our conference.
That's not Pirates level but I don't see us competing for titles if we a middling program in terms of resources.

Which isn't accurate but this year isn't relevant. We weren't going to spend money just to spend it
The Athletic even stated those numbers are based on "sources".
We spent as much as anyone in 2025 which is why Franklin is gone