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shortgapwvu

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Mainly because those murderers are arrested and go to jail...not simply put on paid admistrated leave.

It's a subtle difference that...in your defense...is probably lost on simpler minds.

Not intending to sound like an ***, I am just filling in the cracks with your statement.

Paid administrative leave is only until they figure out if what you did should get you fired or arrested. If it turns out that you were legally performing your duties, you didn't lose your *** financially for doing something correctly. If you are fired or arrested, who cares if you got a couple extra weeks pay.

I have never personally been on administrative leave for any reason, but dudes who are on it do not enjoy it. It is not a vacation to tell your family that you don't know how much longer you'll have a job. Administrative leave is not just for firing your weapon as someone. It is when an investigation is involved for anything..... most of it being absolute bs. You can't suspend pay until you are sure something is wrong.
 

michaelwalkerbr

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The cop was probably wearing a vest. I guess he's supposed to take one round to be sure of the suspect's intentions and then shoot the gun out of the shooter's hand.
 

michaelgpierce21

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Not intending to sound like an ***, I am just filling in the cracks with your statement.

Paid administrative leave is only until they figure out if what you did should get you fired or arrested. If it turns out that you were legally performing your duties, you didn't lose your *** financially for doing something correctly. If you are fired or arrested, who cares if you got a couple extra weeks pay.

I have never personally been on administrative leave for any reason, but dudes who are on it do not enjoy it. It is not a vacation to tell your family that you don't know how much longer you'll have a job. Administrative leave is not just for firing your weapon as someone. It is when an investigation is involved for anything..... most of it being absolute bs. You can't suspend pay until you are sure something is wrong.
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What about the lady truck driver that was dragged out of her rig by the protesters blocking the interstate so they could loot and burn her load? Doesn't she matter?

Not really. She doesn't fit into the proper victim category. Apparently it only matters when a black man is killed because they refused to obey police commands (Tulsa) or think that getting out of a car and brandishing a weapon was a good idea.... (Charlotte)

Meanwhile we continue to underfund inner-city and rural schools, continue a system that traps poor blacks and whites in a cycle of perpetual poverty, and refuse to provide meaningful life-skill and job training for the poor and disadvantaged. But hey, let's focus on a symptom (police shootings) rather than the cause.....it is so much easier.
 

Eers_Do Work

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Did you just answer his question with a question?

Since the mighty Orlaco replied, that will be my key to continue my board sabatical. Just remember, police don't murder anyone and everyone is guilty until proven innocent when it comes to incidents with the cops.
 

michaelwalkerbr

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Since the mighty Orlaco replied, that will be my key to continue my board sabatical. Just remember, police don't murder anyone and everyone is guilty until proven innocent when it comes to incidents with the cops.

That is a ridiculous statement even as sarcasm. Not all cop shootings are justified, a few are outright homicide. The vast majority are in self defense or the defense of another. You'll find those on section B, page 2 of the paper when that has been proven. It just doesn't sell or drive ratings like the actions of a rogue or poorly trained cop and the rioting, destruction and stealing that follows in the name of protest. Nobody hates bad cops worse than good ones.
 

dave

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Quieting down?

News said 1 was shot by another civilian. There was enough video on the street that whatever happened will be on video. Hopefully someone shares it.
 

Mdeer

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Quieting down?

News said 1 was shot by another civilian. There was enough video on the street that whatever happened will be on video. Hopefully someone shares it.
Seems like it . I'm really close to what they are showing on tv right now . Like a 2 minute walk at most
 

dave

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Seems like it . I'm really close to what they are showing on tv right now . Like a 2 minute walk at most
Most of Uptown is a 2 minute walk but I know the area on TV. Glad it is calming down. Feel bad for the looting victims.
 

HSVMountie

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This ain't good.

At some point white America starts to feel like they're (we're) getting shat on. I absolutely want the 'situation' rationally addressed and corrected (if needed)....

....but I'm not going to be the ***** just because it's politically correct while morally it's just an abuse of our constitution. I served in the military and was more than open to offering my life for ANY American but that doesn't mean those that feel entitled to more rights than me (and I do think there's abuse of rights happening) get a pass 'just because'.

I honestly fight the urge to judge other races... ....but I'm not sure that such an attitude is returned in kind....

Disappointing.
We said. Facts really don't seem to matter. This is an emotional issue. Dealing with emotional issues only works two ways - throw water on it or let it burn out. Letting it burn out is going to take too long.
 

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it's happening about a block and a half from me

Lady walked by my deck and said a cop shot someone in the face
Why aren't you out there and engaging the protesters? You're not afraid of black America are you?
 

mneilmont

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Mainly because those murderers are arrested and go to jail...not simply put on paid admistrated leave.

It's a subtle difference that...in your defense...is probably lost on simpler minds.
Chicago murders solved at 25% rate over past few years. Those officers placed on administrative leave would be at a much different rate. And I am making an assumption you are referring to police by the "administrative leave" connection. Maybe you are pissed like the rest of the blacks and want instant punishment or take the law into your own hands and riot.

Normally any shooting resulting in death, the officer involved will be placed on administrative leave and removed from the streets until there is a conclusion that the shoot is "good or bad". Good says the officer acted properly and returned to regular duty when the shooting can be put behind the officer. You do not want to put an officer on the street who would hesitate to use appropriate force timely. " He who hesitates dies". If it is determined to be bad, normal arrest with legal procedure as called for by Constitution.

This country has gotten beyond the "Git a rope and a horse and hang him from the hangin tree, Jesse". All citizens have Constitutional rights as amended by Bill of Rights. Includes: probable cause; grand jury; jeopardy; speedy public trial; etc.
 

rog1187

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Mainly because those murderers are arrested and go to jail...not simply put on paid admistrated leave.

It's a subtle difference that...in your defense...is probably lost on simpler minds.
All of those murders have arrests and convictions?
 

MountaineerWV

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Not really. She doesn't fit into the proper victim category. Apparently it only matters when a black man is killed because they refused to obey police commands (Tulsa) or think that getting out of a car and brandishing a weapon was a good idea.... (Charlotte)

Meanwhile we continue to underfund inner-city and rural schools, continue a system that traps poor blacks and whites in a cycle of perpetual poverty, and refuse to provide meaningful life-skill and job training for the poor and disadvantaged. But hey, let's focus on a symptom (police shootings) rather than the cause.....it is so much easier.

You see.....the problem I see (and maybe it's the media's fault) is that locally I see stories on the news of a white person who ran from the cops but was "apprehended a few blocks later at another residence". Yet, it seems if an African-American (Tulsa situation) refused commands he's SHOT on sight! And it's not even a leg shot, it's a chest shot for the kill.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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You see.....the problem I see (and maybe it's the media's fault) is that locally I see stories on the news of a white person who ran from the cops but was "apprehended a few blocks later at another residence". Yet, it seems if an African-American (Tulsa situation) refused commands he's SHOT on sight! And it's not even a leg shot, it's a chest shot for the kill.
Hahahaha
 

WVU82_rivals

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Tulsa officer charged with manslaughter for fatal shooting seen on video


The white Tulsa police officer who fatally shot a black man has been charged with manslaughter and a warrant has been issued for her arrest, the Tulsa County District Attorney said on Thursday.

Officer Betty Shelby was charged with first degree manslaughter for the death of Terence Crutcher, 40. The incident was captured on a widely broadcast police video and the case is one in a series that has raised questions of racial bias in U.S. policing.

http://www.reuters.tv/v/6gi/2016/09/22/white-tulsa-cop-charged-with-killing-unarmed-motorist
 
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rog1187

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Tulsa officer charged with manslaughter for fatal shooting seen on video


The white Tulsa police officer who fatally shot a black man has been charged with manslaughter and a warrant has been issued for her arrest, the Tulsa County District Attorney said on Thursday.

Officer Betty Shelby was charged with first degree manslaughter for the death of Terence Crutcher, 40. The incident was captured on a widely broadcast police video and the case is one in a series that has raised questions of racial bias in U.S. policing.
Okay will the looting....err I mean protesting stop now?
 

dave

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You see.....the problem I see (and maybe it's the media's fault) is that locally I see stories on the news of a white person who ran from the cops but was "apprehended a few blocks later at another residence". Yet, it seems if an African-American (Tulsa situation) refused commands he's SHOT on sight! And it's not even a leg shot, it's a chest shot for the kill.
You are a special kind of stupid.
 

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MountaineerWV

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You know, at one point in our history a group called the Sons of Liberty rejected British laws and protesting openly and destructively and they were paraded as "heroes" and are in history books. When people see unjust actions, they take action. Not saying right or wrong......just stating historical fact......
 

dave

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You know, at one point in our history a group called the Sons of Liberty rejected British laws and protesting openly and destructively and they were paraded as "heroes" and are in history books. When people see unjust actions, they take action. Not saying right or wrong......just stating historical fact......
Congrats on ending the week with your dumbest post yet.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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You know, at one point in our history a group called the Sons of Liberty rejected British laws and protesting openly and destructively and they were paraded as "heroes" and are in history books. When people see unjust actions, they take action. Not saying right or wrong......just stating historical fact......
I love your posts. I feel so good about myself after reading them.
 

bornaneer

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You know, at one point in our history a group called the Sons of Liberty rejected British laws and protesting openly and destructively and they were paraded as "heroes" and are in history books. When people see unjust actions, they take action. Not saying right or wrong......just stating historical fact......
Idiot
 

MountaineerWV

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Yeah.....if protestors are majority white, then it's OK. If they are minority, then maybe not so........Tumpsters!!!!!!! YAY.......[thumbsup]