Changes coming or wishful thinking?

[TripleOption67]

Copied this from another Husker board. A former Husker close to the program wrote this.

...Scott Frost does get it....yeah I know all about his Quacking Duck Offense he says he loves so much but he has seen first hand now that just aint gonna cut it in Nebraska or the Big 10.....and make no mistake Frost WANTS TO WIN HERE but he also had to swallow a bitter pill....he got beat by teams that RUN THE BALL AND PLAY GOOD DEFENSE....and he will reflect and adjust in the coming months to better suit where he is now and what it takes to win HERE

 

[Redscarlet]

Let’s hope so for all of the fan’s sake..

 

[dinglefritz]

Copied this from another Husker board. A former Husker close to the program wrote this.

...Scott Frost does get it....yeah I know all about his Quacking Duck Offense he says he loves so much but he has seen first hand now that just aint gonna cut it in Nebraska or the Big 10.....and make no mistake Frost WANTS TO WIN HERE but he also had to swallow a bitter pill....he got beat by teams that RUN THE BALL AND PLAY GOOD DEFENSE....and he will reflect and adjust in the coming months to better suit where he is now and what it takes to win HERE

Ummm we're 3rd in the conference in rushing behind only Ohio State (Dobbins) and Wisconsin (Taylor). We lost our #1 RB to personal issues. Wandale was hurt for over a third of the season. I would say we run the ball pretty damned well. We played pretty darned good defense against Wisconsin and in the last 3 quarters against Iowa until we went to the "prevent the win" D that last series.

 

[schuele]

he got beat by teams that RUN THE BALL AND PLAY GOOD DEFENSE....

He also got beat by teams that don't run the ball and don't play good defense.

Get better, and few will give a crap about style of play.

 

[Ewooc]

I don't see it, he stuck with a QB who was clearly inadequate from the start. He runs screen pass after screen pass with the same negative results. I don't see him changing his whole coaching philosophy based on 2 yrs.

 

[Redscarlet]

Ummm we're 3rd in the conference in rushing behind only Ohio State (Dobbins) and Wisconsin (Taylor). We lost our #1 RB to personal issues. Wandale was hurt for over a third of the season. I would say we run the ball pretty damned well. We played pretty darned good defense against Wisconsin and in the last 3 quarters against Iowa until we went to the "prevent the win" D that last series.

I think he is referring too all the swing passing and maybe more option type offense...

We definitely need to get better on defense and play a defense toward our strengths... We haven’t had 3-4 type players to run this scheme..

 

[HUSKERFAN66]

Copied this from another Husker board. A former Husker close to the program wrote this.

...Scott Frost does get it....yeah I know all about his Quacking Duck Offense he says he loves so much but he has seen first hand now that just aint gonna cut it in Nebraska or the Big 10.....and make no mistake Frost WANTS TO WIN HERE but he also had to swallow a bitter pill....he got beat by teams that RUN THE BALL AND PLAY GOOD DEFENSE....and he will reflect and adjust in the coming months to better suit where he is now and what it takes to win HERE

Hope so. I see several players/positions that improved and some that didn't. Coaches need to improve as well. 1 play per game would have shanged from a 5-7 year to a 9-3. Coaching blunders and poor clock management included. Fixing special teams will be priority#1 for me because IMO that's the easiest fix

 

[dinglefritz]

I think he is referring too all the swing passing and maybe more option type offense...

We definitely need to get better on defense and play a defense toward our strengths... We haven’t had 3-4 type players to run this scheme..

Somebody needs to remind him that Tom liked the swing passes and bubble screens too. We ran option a fair amount Friday to varying degrees of success. As far as 3-4 players, we're short an edge rusher and I don't care if we were in a 3-4 or 4-3. Our OLBers aren't good enough. Period. That makes no difference which scheme you run.

 

[dinglefritz]

He also got beat by teams that don't run the ball and don't play good defense.

Get better, and few will give a crap about style of play.

Just win baby! POY. There's thousands of former players and all of them have an opinion. Not all of them are smart.

 

[Crazyhole]

Those swing passes and bubble screens would be a lot more effective if we had a couple of receivers who can stretch the field vertically. It's too easy for defenses to just put their best DB on JD in man and keep the rest of our skill position players in front of them.

 

[Pennsyhusker_rivals246774]

I think he is referring too all the swing passing and maybe more option type offense...

We definitely need to get better on defense and play a defense toward our strengths... We haven’t had 3-4 type players to run this scheme..

We need to play much better defense. Period. I don’t care how well we played on defense on Friday for two and a half quarters. Because the fact is our defense sucked in the first quarter and then CHOKED when it mattered at the end. The WHOLE DAMN SEASON was on the line with 35 seconds left and we couldn’t stop a team with no timeouts left from moving the ball 44 yards in two freaking plays. We have zero pass rush and give up way too many big plays. Furthermore, had our defense forced more three and outs our offense would not have had such piss poor field position through most of the fourth quarter.

We ran the ball very effectively against a very good Iowa defense. Running the ball was not our issue. Piss poor play from our QB, outrageously awful special teams, and a defense that couldn’t get the job done are why we lost.

 

[frankluv]

We MUST fix the "Special Teams", which includes the kicking team.

 

[NikkiSixx_rivals269993]

Copied this from another Husker board. A former Husker close to the program wrote this.

...Scott Frost does get it....yeah I know all about his Quacking Duck Offense he says he loves so much but he has seen first hand now that just aint gonna cut it in Nebraska or the Big 10.....and make no mistake Frost WANTS TO WIN HERE but he also had to swallow a bitter pill....he got beat by teams that RUN THE BALL AND PLAY GOOD DEFENSE....and he will reflect and adjust in the coming months to better suit where he is now and what it takes to win HERE

I wanted to believe this at first, but I do not.

This is just some third party trying to bait people.

There is no way in hell Scott is hitting the brakes on anything and changing his scheme or even thinking about it. This is a highly over confident guy, and there has been nothing to suggest that Scott will self reflect to make a change. He rarely will take personal ownership of anything, only claiming that the team has to work harder and then, he makes statements that it doesn't matter what the fans think, because he 'loves this place even more' [than they do].

That is how out of touch he is.

I'm pretty sure the stuff claimed above is not even remotely true.

 

[Husker Hambone]

Would love to see some triple option mixed in consistently with a FB dive ever now and again! Wooooooo! Run the ball! Martinez needs to tuck it and RUN! Fight for extra yards instead of going OB! That was one of the most maddening things about this season! You are a captain man, sell the F out!

 

[oldjar07]

Copied this from another Husker board. A former Husker close to the program wrote this.

...Scott Frost does get it....yeah I know all about his Quacking Duck Offense he says he loves so much but he has seen first hand now that just aint gonna cut it in Nebraska or the Big 10.....and make no mistake Frost WANTS TO WIN HERE but he also had to swallow a bitter pill....he got beat by teams that RUN THE BALL AND PLAY GOOD DEFENSE....and he will reflect and adjust in the coming months to better suit where he is now and what it takes to win HERE

Doesn't make sense. His scheme is fine. He needs better coaching so he can get the players to run it properly. If he had someone at all on his staff that could teach how to block would be nice.

 

[B1G RED RULES]

Copied this from another Husker board. A former Husker close to the program wrote this.

...Scott Frost does get it....yeah I know all about his Quacking Duck Offense he says he loves so much but he has seen first hand now that just aint gonna cut it in Nebraska or the Big 10.....and make no mistake Frost WANTS TO WIN HERE but he also had to swallow a bitter pill....he got beat by teams that RUN THE BALL AND PLAY GOOD DEFENSE....and he will reflect and adjust in the coming months to better suit where he is now and what it takes to win HERE

I’ll wait and see...

 

[c3o]

Team did a lot of things better towards and of year. I think the more he gets his guys the better this will get. Other than Lamar Jackson I don’t see anyone we are losing we can’t bring someone as good or better in for.

I’m not going to panic but damn was I angry after that loss to Iowa.


Things take care of themselves. Same crap next year and it will unravel and work itself out


Just get some beef up front, run the ball and get some hitters on defense who want to win every single down and they’ll win more than they lose

 

[dand84]

I wanted to believe this at first, but I do not.

This is just some third party trying to bait people.

For what it is worth, I've followed the board he is talking about on and off for awhile. This is the post https://bighuskerfan.com/forum/threads/time-for-my-annual-post-season-wrap-up.8424/. If you've followed him for a bit, you can probably guess who it is from the blackshirts of the 90s. He isn't claiming some special inside knowledge, just his take on things.

 

[Anon1750875978]

Frost hitched his wagon to AM and AM has clearly regressed. Maybe there's more to the injury thing or maybe AM has become afraid of contact at this level.
Running OOB at the end of the game tells me Martinez is mentally tuned out. The position should be up for grabs when it comes to planning for 2020.

But the flux in the program tells me the returning letter winners won't all be back next season. Which means Frost will have to bring in high risk transfers.

 

[huskerssalts]

Copied this from another Husker board. A former Husker close to the program wrote this.

...Scott Frost does get it....yeah I know all about his Quacking Duck Offense he says he loves so much but he has seen first hand now that just aint gonna cut it in Nebraska or the Big 10.....and make no mistake Frost WANTS TO WIN HERE but he also had to swallow a bitter pill....he got beat by teams that RUN THE BALL AND PLAY GOOD DEFENSE....and he will reflect and adjust in the coming months to better suit where he is now and what it takes to win HERE

I’d have to assume we see changes for sure on the special teams coaching. No doubt in my mind there. No clue about the defensive side of things. I’d love to see us go hire a top tier DC but no clue if we will or not. Outside that, (special teams coaching and defensive coaching) those where our main issues.

 

[dinglefritz]

I’d have to assume we see changes for sure on the special teams coaching. No doubt in my mind there. No clue about the defensive side of things. I’d love to see us go hire a top tier DC but no clue if we will or not. Outside that, (special teams coaching and defensive coaching) those where our main issues.

I suspect that Frost will have to take more ownership of special teams at the very least. The kicking has been a killer and the only way to fix the biggest problem with that is to recruit a guy with a stronger leg IMO. Not all of Tom's assistants were over night successes. Tom was well known for working with guys who were his weaker links to manage them into being better coaches. Frost has to do that too or make changes. IMO, Chinander knows his stuff but needs some management by his head coach.

 

[huskerssalts]

I suspect that Frost will have to take more ownership of special teams at the very least. The kicking has been a killer and the only way to fix the biggest problem with that is to recruit a guy with a stronger leg IMO. Not all of Tom's assistants were over night successes. Tom was well known for working with guys who were his weaker links to manage them into being better coaches. Frost has to do that too or make changes. IMO, Chinander knows his stuff but needs some management by his head coach.

my main worry is special teams anyways. I’m up and down with Chin. I’m fine with him getting another year and seeing how he does next year. But Barrett Pickering is a legit kicker. He was just hurt all year (or most of the year, go back to the season before and Pickering was good to great). Just behind him we didn’t have anyone. I think we have a few now. We have to get better on kick coverage and returns. Those have been killing us. Iowa or Wisconsin should have never got huge kick returns for TDs.

 

[leodisflowers]

Jovan Dewitt #1, then from there you gotta look at Walters.

 

[NUSouth]

Copied this from another Husker board. A former Husker close to the program wrote this.

...Scott Frost does get it....yeah I know all about his Quacking Duck Offense he says he loves so much but he has seen first hand now that just aint gonna cut it in Nebraska or the Big 10.....and make no mistake Frost WANTS TO WIN HERE but he also had to swallow a bitter pill....he got beat by teams that RUN THE BALL AND PLAY GOOD DEFENSE....and he will reflect and adjust in the coming months to better suit where he is now and what it takes to win HERE

A kicker who can blast the ball out of the end zone every time wouldn't hurt either. Consistently giving the opposition too good of starting field position

 

[jeans15]

I hope so.

 

[dinglefritz]

A kicker who can blast the ball out of the end zone every time wouldn't hurt either. Consistently giving the opposition too good of starting field position

that is the #1 special teams problem. When you can't accurately directionaly kick OR put it in in to or out of the endzone on kick offs, you have a problem. It killed us this year.

my main worry is special teams anyways. I’m up and down with Chin. I’m fine with him getting another year and seeing how he does next year. But Barrett Pickering is a legit kicker. He was just hurt all year (or most of the year, go back to the season before and Pickering was good to great). Just behind him we didn’t have anyone. I think we have a few now. We have to get better on kick coverage and returns. Those have been killing us. Iowa or Wisconsin should have never got huge kick returns for TDs.

Pickering is adequate accuracy wise but he's never had a big leg. Hip flexor injuries are a real problem. I don't know if he'll ever regain his stroke.

 

[Solana Beach Husker]

Copied this from another Husker board. A former Husker close to the program wrote this.

...Scott Frost does get it....yeah I know all about his Quacking Duck Offense he says he loves so much but he has seen first hand now that just aint gonna cut it in Nebraska or the Big 10.....and make no mistake Frost WANTS TO WIN HERE but he also had to swallow a bitter pill....he got beat by teams that RUN THE BALL AND PLAY GOOD DEFENSE....and he will reflect and adjust in the coming months to better suit where he is now and what it takes to win HERE

We are 3-10 in one score games...that is extremely rare to be so bad in close games...as they are toss-ups and eventually even out. It is just as likely that we would be 10-3 in those games as 3-10 and we would have two wins against Colorado, a win against OSU, a win against Troy, two wins against Iowa....and people would think Frost was GOD....same roster, same players, same coaches, but a few bounces or random plays and people think we are back. Sadly...those random bounces would have meant two bowl games and better recruiting as well. People freak out about record...In CF you are either GREAT, Average, or BAD. 90% of teams are average and 5-9 wins is decided by toss-up games. The great teams like Clemson or OSU beat teams by 30+ a game...there are no toss-ups. 90s huskers had very few one score games. And there are teams that collapse and get rolled every game...these are rare. We are average...and likely will be for a while...

 

[kccornhusker]

We need to play much better defense. Period. I don’t care how well we played on defense on Friday for two and a half quarters. Because the fact is our defense sucked in the first quarter and then CHOKED when it mattered at the end. The WHOLE DAMN SEASON was on the line with 35 seconds left and we couldn’t stop a team with no timeouts left from moving the ball 44 yards in two freaking plays. We have zero pass rush and give up way too many big plays. Furthermore, had our defense forced more three and outs our offense would not have had such piss poor field position through most of the fourth quarter.

We ran the ball very effectively against a very good Iowa defense. Running the ball was not our issue. Piss poor play from our QB, outrageously awful special teams, and a defense that couldn’t get the job done are why we lost.

The D held Iowa to 3&out their first 4 possessions of the 2nd half - which allowed us to tie the game. The 4th came after one of the real daggers of the half which was our own 3&out after we tied it and held them 3&out, followed by a 28 yd punt that gave them the ball in plus territory. The D only gave up 1yd on that possession, which was nice, but we were hosed on field position from there on out. Even the drive that broke the 3&out streak only netted 1 first down. The last drive sucked, no doubt...

 

[Headcard]

Frost hitched his wagon to AM and AM has clearly regressed. Maybe there's more to the injury thing or maybe AM has become afraid of contact at this level.
Running OOB at the end of the game tells me Martinez is mentally tuned out. The position should be up for grabs when it comes to planning for 2020.

But the flux in the program tells me the returning letter winners won't all be back next season. Which means Frost will have to bring in high risk transfers.

The flux? What is this flux, bitching fans on a message board?

 

[CC_Lemming]

If Frost gives up on his entire offensive system after two years in this conference, with the above average results he has had, I would be far more worried about the direction of this program than I already am.