Chad Kelly accepts plea deal...

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His attorney says there was no evidence of any AK 47 threat

and that, along with the video showing he didn't strike first, played a large role in the resolution.

Wow, how fortunate for him the cop(s) had Sudden Unexplained Amnesia Syndrome. They may lose their job if it doesn't improve. On the bright side, they could always work security at UMMC.
 

coach66

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Does this mean we can't call him "Machine Gun Kelly", very

disappointing.
 

RebelBruiser

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I plan to call him Machine Gun Kelly for as long as he's in Oxford.

So yes, I think you're free to do so as well.
 

Hanmudog

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I can't wait for this guy to get to Ole Miss. This has impending disaster written all over it. Kelly will probably make Marshall Henderson look like Jimmer Fredette by comparison.
 

yjnkdawg

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What if Kincade doesn't transfer and beats MGK out for starting qb (if that would be allowed). I think if I was Kincade, then I would get me a body guard.
 

dawgstudent

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Then he will be a cancer in the locker room which to me is what I hope will happen. He didn't sign with Ole Miss to ride the bench.
 

coach66

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Doesn't he have a history of "not riding the bench well"?

This is going to be fun.
 

coach66

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They are always copying us in some way*, The Grove, Right Field Beer Showers

nm
 

RebelBruiser

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I did know that about the original MGK, so one more thing we're going to steal from you.

In all seriousness, this guy isn't in my circle of trust (HDN represent) yet, but if he can win games and stay relatively out of trouble for 2 years, I'll be happy to have him.

I'm not too worried about the locker room stuff. Freeze has managed the locker room pretty well the past 3 years, so I imagine he'll manage this one as well.
 

patdog

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There is no way Kelly won't be the starter next fall. Unless they get Braxton Miller to transfer in.
 

Dawgg

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Who knows Judo? Machine Gun Kelly or B. Miller?

Was it on 'the Ocho'?
 

AHSDawg

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Thank god for you the 'locker room' statement does not extend to the beach or fraternity row... As long as he has the locker room managed, that is all that matters, huh?
 

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Thank god for you the 'locker room' statement does not extend to the beach or fraternity row... As long as he has the locker room managed, that is all that matters, huh?

So you think the beach thing is an example of BAD behavior? How many people who have others trying to pick a fight with them will avoid the fight? I actually thought that was an example of pretty good behavior, for a college kid to have someone trying to instigate, and for him to make a conscious effort to NOT start a fight.

One of our players gets caught on camera cussing at some guys who are trying to goad him into an altercation? Oh, the shame. I honestly thought that all that incident showed was how pathetic that group of your fans were that they would not only try to start something with a player at Ole Miss but then record his reaction to try to get the player in trouble.

No coach is ever going to be able to control the actions of their players 24/7 though. Anyone who thinks that is a moron. However, you can control how you react to incidents and how you let them impact your locker room. By all measures, Freeze has had the buy-in of his teams (with few exceptions). That's all I'm saying. He has proven to be able to manage the pulse of his locker room pretty well so far. Until he proves otherwise, I'll believe he can continue to manage it.
 

AHSDawg

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I would expect people that are 'managed well' to be able to handle themselves. And, if you think Freezus does this well, you have to admit that Mullen is god like by comparison.

I will wait for your acknowledgement of said fact.
 

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There is no question that Mullen has been better than Freeze at discipline and controlling the program. Freeze could not even get Bo Wallace to run the called play half the time.

Even still, holding a coach responsible for players' actions is bad practice, at best.
 

AHSDawg

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Not when the coach founds his program based on morals which seemingly throw stones at other coaches. Glass houses...

Just for clarity, I do not really care what a program looks like. I am not wanting a really well founded football program. However, I do find it very funny that a coach that has based his entire coaching philosophy on Jesus and his teaching has one of the most obviously flawed programs. Seems he needs to spend less time advocating his policies to the press and start enacting some of them with his program.
 

xxxWalkTheDawg

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So you think the beach thing is an example of BAD behavior? How many people who have others trying to pick a fight with them will avoid the fight? I actually thought that was an example of pretty good behavior, for a college kid to have someone trying to instigate, and for him to make a conscious effort to NOT start a fight.

One of our players gets caught on camera cussing at some guys who are trying to goad him into an altercation? Oh, the shame. I honestly thought that all that incident showed was how pathetic that group of your fans were that they would not only try to start something with a player at Ole Miss but then record his reaction to try to get the player in trouble.

No coach is ever going to be able to control the actions of their players 24/7 though. Anyone who thinks that is a moron. However, you can control how you react to incidents and how you let them impact your locker room. By all measures, Freeze has had the buy-in of his teams (with few exceptions). That's all I'm saying. He has proven to be able to manage the pulse of his locker room pretty well so far. Until he proves otherwise, I'll believe he can continue to manage it.

For you to require video proof of anything a UM player is accused of... You sure tow the UM party line of "it was MSU fans picking a fight" well. Hey bruser.... Show us the video of the fans starting it.
 

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For you to require video proof of anything a UM player is accused of... You sure tow the UM party line of "it was MSU fans picking a fight" well. Hey bruser.... Show us the video of the fans starting it.

It doesn't exist, because the only people filming were only interested in trying to get a Bearshark in trouble, thus they filmed a certain part of it and edited it to their liking.

That said, a "who started it" argument wasn't the point I was making. The point was that I thought the incident actually showed at least some amount of maturity to avoid letting the confrontation get physical.

As to the discussion on the Christian stuff, that's not my cup of tea personally, but Mark Richt is very faith-based in his approach to program-building, yet his players get in trouble quite often for off-field stuff. Just because that's the foundation you choose to build your program on doesn't mean all your players are going to act like choir boys, so I don't see how that's relevant to the discussion.
 

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That said, a "who started it" argument wasn't the point I was making. The point was that I thought the incident actually showed at least some amount of maturity to avoid letting the confrontation get physical.
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Maturity or he was scared he was going to get his *** beat in front of the whole beach.
 

Hammer Down

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Just because that's the foundation you choose to build your program on doesn't mean all your players are going to act like choir boys, so I don't see how that's relevant to the discussion.
It is not. It is more Christian-bashing in my opinion than Hugh Freeze bashing. The fact that Hugh Freeze does it, just makes it an easy target for non-Christian MSU fans (and other fans), that for some reason love to point out every time Christians fail, as if they are not also human.
 

AHSDawg

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maturity is to scream obscenities and not beat the crap out of random people?

Also, I don't hear Richt explain how he doesn't cuss and then be caught on video cussing out one of the students at his school...
 

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You watched the video of Bo Wallace on the beach and this is what you got from it?

The point was that I thought the incident actually showed at least some amount of maturity


Seriously?
 

RebelBruiser

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You watched the video of Bo Wallace on the beach and this is what you got from it?

The point was that I thought the incident actually showed at least some amount of maturity


Seriously?

You're right. He should've been thrown in jail for that level of verbal abuse.**

My point was that those situations usually escalate to a physical altercation unless someone makes a conscious decision NOT to let it happen. That's what happened in the clip.

And he got suspended for an entire game for that and a few other things. Denzel has had his fair share of issues off the field, so I'm not going to defend him often, but a 20 year old getting caught cussing on camera doesn't really shock or offend me at all, nor do I think it's worthy of any kind of punishment whatsoever, though he received punishment largely because he had other marks against him already. I really thought the whole thing was tame for a Spring Break incident. Incidents like that happen every night if you're out in any kind of party scene, and if they don't escalate to physical violence, no harm is done.

And yes, choosing to walk away is something a lot of people that age won't do.

That said, I know he's a cheatin' Bearshark though, so cussing on the beach is basically the same as punching a baby, and he probably should've been banned from returning to Oxford for that level of tomfoolery...assuming Hugh was any kind of Christian, right? Point is, if your fans are going to try to get our players in trouble, at least next time get into a fight with them, so they can earn their punishment properly.

Be on the look out for Machine Gun this Spring Break though. If Freeze doesn't force him to spend the break in Haiti, you may be able to get him mad enough to beat you up while your buddy films it, so you can help the Bulldog cause by trying to get a TSUNer suspended or kicked off the team. He may even threaten you with military weaponry if you're lucky. Just keep your eyes peeled.
 

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It is not. It is more Christian-bashing in my opinion than Hugh Freeze bashing. The fact that Hugh Freeze does it, just makes it an easy target for non-Christian MSU fans (and other fans), that for some reason love to point out every time Christians fail, as if they are not also human.

What? ? ???? There's no Christian bashing there. People do love to see Christians fail, but Freeze is an easy target because he uses Christianity to promote and further himself and his position rather than using himself and his position to promote Christianity. Doesn't have anything to do with striving to meet a higher standard and failing.
 

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You do have to admit the hypocrisy of your fans for saying Mullen is the anti-Christ then, right? Since you say that these instances of 20 year olds cussing out people are such commonplace and not a big deal, you must then, really be disgusted by the Ole Miss people that hate on Dan Mullen when he doesn't have players do the same. And he doesn't even have to stand out on the street corner being a preacher to get it accomplished...
 

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Also, I don't hear Richt explain how he doesn't cuss and then be caught on video cussing out one of the students at his school...

Serious question, when did Freeze say he doesn't cuss, and where is this video of him cussing out a student? I'm not saying either of these is false, but I have trouble keeping track of the things Freeze supposedly did or said, for which there is actual evidence, versus the things some MSU fans wholeheartedly believe Freeze did or said, for which there is no evidence. I just want to know into which category this falls.
 

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I don't know about you but I can read lips pretty well - I think he said "I am secretly a scientologist. I denounce creationism you sorry mother ******* Homo Erectus"
 

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I can't make heads or tails of that. Can anyone provide a transcript? Frankly I'm more offended by his wife's hat. What is that, maroon? Just awful.
 

xxxWalkTheDawg

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It doesn't exist, because the only people filming were only interested in trying to get a Bearshark in trouble, thus they filmed a certain part of it and edited it to their liking.

That said, a "who started it" argument wasn't the point I was making. The point was that I thought the incident actually showed at least some amount of maturity to avoid letting the confrontation get physical.

Well it didn't happen did it? Can you prove it was edited? Ohhhh you need to be able to prove that!! That's your stance on UM players and fans.I laugh at how you contradict yourself and let your hypocrisy grow each post you make. Your dumb *** comes over with your chest poked out about Day but get called on Sowell. Of course you need video proof and then claim Sowell's play was ok but you think Day should be prosecuted. Of course UM players starting fights and kicking opposing players with broken legs is just emotional play after the Day suspension. You monitor this board for anything said about UM players while ready to educate us but you are on record about Being glad R Elliot's knee getting blown out. Remember where you got tagged "literally a **********?"

You need proof Kelly threatened violence, you need proof RK and DK damn near killed a guy on frat row... You need proof anyone instigated DK into that on the beach. Have none? Didn't happen. Witnesses at the scene with Kelly along with reports from the cops and bar staff isn't enough for you. Well the word of your player with a civil lawsuit against him for assault isn't enough either.

Without your proof it was just an extremely poised and mature thug hurling threats after he has already put a guy in the hospital by assaulting him. I wish we had players so mature.
 

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you poor poor soul.

No I don't think he should have been suspended for what was in the video. But nothing in the video would have made me feel good about him being the leader or QB of my team. Nothing. Same with him walking off the field against LSU at end of game. Same with him mouthing at fans on the sideline.
 
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