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Yes, but they also don’t need coaches who are hard asses and yell at them regularly. But I’ve only coached high school girls basketball since the 1990s, so what do I know?
Not sure what you know, but there’s a HUGE difference between Iowa high school and professional basketball. But what do I know I’m just a girls basketball dad!
 
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Yes because women would LOVE to play for that kind of coach. It’s amazing to me that people think White doesn’t know how to coach.
Yes because all NBA coaches that have ever gotten fired, especially the ones during the season, also don't know how to coach basketball and that's why they were fired and not for any single possible other reason..............................
 
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Women are tougher than you think.
Will Ferrell Lol GIF
 
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Yes, but they also don’t need coaches who are hard asses and yell at them regularly. But I’ve only coached high school girls basketball since the 1990s, so what do I know?
Tbf, even boys couldn't handle a Bob Knight type of coach these days with how emotionally soft we've become.

30 seconds of this and they'd be running to the locker room to phone mom to have her complain on Facebook and put the school on blast on social media.....................


 
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But really though all I want is for Indiana to stop playing (and for Caitlin to stop shooting) like melted f***ing dog sh**...............

And I'll thank them in advance for f***ing doing that. 🙂
 
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pablow

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Imagine thinking she doesn’t. You’re just an emotional fan.
Since you're a experience basketball coach, give us your take on what happened to coach White at Vanderbilt. Is it normal for a good coach to have a bad year or two - or even 5 bad years in a row? Also, after not having much success at Vanderbilt, how do you think the Connecticut Suns knew she was actually a good coach? I'm just puzzled by the trajectory of Stephanie White's coaching career.
 

Tom Paris

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Since you're a experience basketball coach, give us your take on what happened to coach White at Vanderbilt. Is it normal for a good coach to have a bad year or two - or even 5 bad years in a row? Also, after not having much success at Vanderbilt, how do you think the Connecticut Suns knew she was actually a good coach? I'm just puzzled by the trajectory of Stephanie White's coaching career.
I don’t know her Vanderbilt story. I didn’t follow Vanderbilt basketball. Was she a bad coach at Connecticut?
 

Herky T Hawk

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Since you're a experience basketball coach, give us your take on what happened to coach White at Vanderbilt. Is it normal for a good coach to have a bad year or two - or even 5 bad years in a row? Also, after not having much success at Vanderbilt, how do you think the Connecticut Suns knew she was actually a good coach? I'm just puzzled by the trajectory of Stephanie White's coaching career.
I had a post many weeks ago about how most of the WNBA coaches aren't really that good. Many of the ones that coached in college were mostly adequate at best and more likely failures in college. The best coach in WNBA history, Cheryl Reeves, was a below .500 coach at Indiana State, with only 2 winning seasons and never higher than 4th in the Missouri Valley Conference. Her WNBA success has mainly been a product of having the best players available to her. Augustus, Whalen, Fowles, Moore were mainstays on most of her title teams. Having those players must have been a hard job to handle.

Smesko from the Dream is the current coach with the most success in college with a .829 record over a long career, albeit mostly at Florida Gulf Coast which was D2 for some, and in the Atlantic Sun Conference for the rest of his time there. He managed to reach an NCAA Second round four times.

Fernandez from the Wings is next. He had 5 NCAA second round appearances and a .600 career record over a long career, at South Florida. Most of his success came after South Florida dropped from the Big East down to the AAC though.

Compare those to Bluder's overall record at St. Ambrose, Drake and Iowa which was .692, .675 only looking at Iowa in one of the toughest conferences in the country at a school that wasn't getting the pick of the litter for players like UConn or Tennessee. She also managed 12 second rounds, 5 Sweet Sixteens, 3 Elite Eights, and 2 Final Fours. Bluder was what I would call a good, but not great coach as her best teams were mainly because of luck of having two specific players. But her success in Division 1 dominates those other three coaches.

For reference, White had a .357 career winning percentage at Vanderbilt, .194 in conference play, and never finished higher than 11th in the conference. She finished dead last in the SEC twice and one spot above dead last twice. Angie Lee had a more than 3x higher winning percentage in conference games at Iowa, plus 2 Big Ten championships, a sweet sixteen and 3 seasons at least making the 2nd round and was directed to resign from the position.
 

pablow

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I had a post many weeks ago about how most of the WNBA coaches aren't really that good. Many of the ones that coached in college were mostly adequate at best and more likely failures in college. The best coach in WNBA history, Cheryl Reeves, was a below .500 coach at Indiana State, with only 2 winning seasons and never higher than 4th in the Missouri Valley Conference. Her WNBA success has mainly been a product of having the best players available to her. Augustus, Whalen, Fowles, Moore were mainstays on most of her title teams. Having those players must have been a hard job to handle.

Smesko from the Dream is the current coach with the most success in college with a .829 record over a long career, albeit mostly at Florida Gulf Coast which was D2 for some, and in the Atlantic Sun Conference for the rest of his time there. He managed to reach an NCAA Second round four times.

Fernandez from the Wings is next. He had 5 NCAA second round appearances and a .600 career record over a long career, at South Florida. Most of his success came after South Florida dropped from the Big East down to the AAC though.

Compare those to Bluder's overall record at St. Ambrose, Drake and Iowa which was .692, .675 only looking at Iowa in one of the toughest conferences in the country at a school that wasn't getting the pick of the litter for players like UConn or Tennessee. She also managed 12 second rounds, 5 Sweet Sixteens, 3 Elite Eights, and 2 Final Fours. Bluder was what I would call a good, but not great coach as her best teams were mainly because of luck of having two specific players. But her success in Division 1 dominates those other three coaches.

For reference, White had a .357 career winning percentage at Vanderbilt, .194 in conference play, and never finished higher than 11th in the conference. She finished dead last in the SEC twice and one spot above dead last twice. Angie Lee had a more than 3x higher winning percentage in conference games at Iowa, plus 2 Big Ten championships, a sweet sixteen and 3 seasons at least making the 2nd round and was directed to resign from the position.
Thanks for the very interesting info.
 
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I don’t know her Vanderbilt story. I didn’t follow Vanderbilt basketball. Was she a bad coach at Connecticut?
It's the WNBA........how good have you needed to be to get a job there?

Remember this has not been a seriously run organization and there are hundreds of examples to prove that statement, in this year alone, let alone the other 29 years of its existence.
 

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Linda Cohn with perspective on the upcoming games with Minny and more. Short video. (12 Min.)


I'm way too lazy to research this but I think it's quite possible Caitlin's rookie scoring record benefitted from a longer regular season than previous iterations of the W.

Similarly Miles broke Caitlin's record in a lengthened season. But since direct comparisons are being made, I would have expected someone like a Linda Cohn to point out that Miles has so far played 42 games vs the 40 games total for Caitlin in her rookie season. Otoh, I fully understand why the ESPN cabal can't gloss over that fast enough.

But for my part, I must right this wrong ...


Art Loop GIF by Recreatives Agency




 
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Legend12

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I'm way too lazy to research this but I think it's quite possible Caitlin's rookie scoring record benefitted from a longer regular season than previous iterations of the W.

Similarly Miles broke Caitlin's record in a lengthened season. But since direct comparisons are being made, I would have expected someone like a Linda Cohn to point out that Miles has so far played 42 games vs the 40 games total for Caitlin in her rookie season. Otoh, I fully understand why the ESPN cabal can't gloss over that fast enough.

But for my part, I must right this wrong ...



Miles, broke the record in the 40th game she played, the same # CC played in her rookie season, so people think it is essentially an apples to apples comparison, BUT...Miles missed 2 games during the season so yes, the elongated season allowed her to be in a position to do so.

All of the season and career total records are going to get shattered by this new wave of players...especially when they go to 50 games next season.

Just think what CC's career assist #s will look like when she is done playing compared to current leaders.
 

Hawksfor3

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I'm way too lazy to research this but I think it's quite possible Caitlin's rookie scoring record benefitted from a longer regular season than previous iterations of the W.

Similarly Miles broke Caitlin's record in a lengthened season. But since direct comparisons are being made, I would have expected someone like a Linda Cohn to point out that Miles has so far played 42 games vs the 40 games total for Caitlin in her rookie season. Otoh, I fully understand why the ESPN cabal can't gloss over that fast enough.

But for my part, I must right this wrong ...


Art Loop GIF by Recreatives Agency




Yeah, I don't know why she didn't mention the length of the seasons. I don't think there was intent though.
 
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