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Kceasthawk@77 said:
There doesn't seem to be any penalty for what appears to be the obvious difference in how fouls on Clark are "not called" and the ones on her that are. That replay early showed she didn't contact a player in any way, "foul" She gets pushed out of bounds an into the ref, "T on Clark"
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Whether it was Clark or not, that was a ridiculously bad call in a crucial part of a game…messing up like that deserves some kind of punishment.
 
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Hawksfor3 said:
White defended Carrington in the Post-Game: Keep in mind that Carrington played for White, and that there was no play on the ball when the foul occurred.

"Yeah, I mean, look, it was a hard foul," White said. "I don't think that DiJonai intentionally came out to get her across the neck like she did, but it did happen and I thought it was the right call. But one of the things about (Carrington) is that she's going to play her butt off, man. She's going to compete. Nobody's going to go walking in for a layup. And so I don't oppose the hard foul, but I also don't think that she intentionally went for the neck."

IOW, Nothing to see here, move along.

IMHO, White either doesn't understand the rule or she is being deceitful, since she is contradicting herself by saying that she doesn't believe the foul was intentional, but was simply a good hard foul by a tenacious player. She also stated that the officials made the right call. That is the contradiction.

The WNBA rulebook outlines a flagrant foul 2 as follows:

"Rule 12B, Section IV-b.: If contact committed against a player, with or without the ball, is interpreted to be unnecessary and excessive, a flagrant foul-penalty 2 will be assessed. A personal foul is charged to the offender and a team foul is charged to the team."

A flagrant 2 results in an immediate disqualification. Video set for White's comment on the Flagrant 2 call.

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Arrington did the same thing to Skylar Diggins in the past….you don’t just “accidentally” do the same thing twice.
 
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Ludd said:
Whether it was Clark or not, that was a ridiculously bad call in a crucial part of a game…messing up like that deserves some kind of punishment.
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True, but its really hard to believe that call would have been made if it wasn't Clark. Contact way worse than that happens all the time with refs and you don't see that called ever, unless its clear they purposefully made contact. The ref took a second , looked at Clark and called the T when she was 5 ft away from her. I'd add that Clark bears some of the blame for her antics getting on the bad side of the refs. Unfortunately every one of them knows if they T her up she gets suspended so theres an extra incentive for any ref who's she's rubbed the wrong way and wants to be vindictive.
 
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Kceasthawk@77 said:
True, but its really hard to believe that call would have been made if it wasn't Clark. Contact way worse than that happens all the time with refs and you don't see that called ever, unless its clear they purposefully made contact. The ref took a second , looked at Clark and called the T when she was 5 ft away from her.
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Oh, I agree it was called because it was Clark, but that official just gave a video clip for the world to confirm all they’ve been hearing about how bad the officiating is- she took all the other officials down with her- that deserves a suspension at the minimum, but she should probably be fired.
 
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KurtWarner said:
I been watching replays of that foul and Sophie could have been seriously injured on that play. It was absolutely nasty and that ***** Carrington knew exactly what she was doing and appeared to trying to do some damage. The league really needs to take a long, hard look at that play and should suspend her for several games. This is her MO. She gouging cc in the eyes a couple years ago. ON PURPOSE. For those that didn't think that was on purpose are idiots. I'm positive no suspensions will be coming. They are scared shitless of backlash from a certain demographic
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agreed, but the incompetent and radical wnba will do nothing
 
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Ludd said:
Oh, I agree it was called because it was Clark, but that official just gave a video clip for the world to confirm all they’ve been hearing about how bad the officiating is- she took all the other officials down with her- that deserves a suspension at the minimum, but she should probably be fired.
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probably get a $'s raise in the trash league
 
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Seems like cc has been making a few more careless passes lately but still no one comes remotely close to her passing ability. Her passing is honestly amazing and lots of times better that her shooting. She see things way before anyone else in her passing and no one touches her in that skill
 
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KurtWarner said:
Seems like cc has been making a few more careless passes lately but still no one comes remotely close to her passing ability. Her passing is honestly amazing and lots of times better that her shooting. She see things way before anyone else in her passing and no one touches her in that skill
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Even in her basically two years worth of games, I think that's still part of the problem. While she's generally really on the same page with AB, and Mitchell, many of the other players just don't see the game like she does. Often she's seeing things open several steps ahead, and they don't move to that space. Then theres the hands issue from Timpson, (who is certainly improving with her minutes going up), and Hines Allen who is a bull in a china shop with no real feel for the game, and poor hands.
 
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KurtWarner said:
Seems like cc has been making a few more careless passes lately but still no one comes remotely close to her passing ability. Her passing is honestly amazing and lots of times better that her shooting. She see things way before anyone else in her passing and no one touches her in that skill
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That fact that she sees things before others also leads to some of her turnovers…she’s playing chess and the others are playing Candy Crush, so there’s going to be some miscommunication.
 
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KurtWarner said:
Seems like cc has been making a few more careless passes lately but still no one comes remotely close to her passing ability. Her passing is honestly amazing and lots of times better that her shooting. She see things way before anyone else in her passing and no one touches her in that skill
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At least 3 of her 6 TOs yesterday were the result of her throwing a dime to a teammate who just didn't catch it.
 
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Manfredi said:
Carrington is the Jacy Sheldon of Cennedy Carter's.
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Awkward Schitts Creek GIF by CBC
 
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KurtWarner said:
I been watching replays of that foul and Sophie could have been seriously injured on that play. It was absolutely nasty and that ***** Carrington knew exactly what she was doing and appeared to trying to do some damage. The league really needs to take a long, hard look at that play and should suspend her for several games. This is her MO. She gouging cc in the eyes a couple years ago. ON PURPOSE. For those that didn't think that was on purpose are idiots. I'm positive no suspensions will be coming. They are scared shitless of backlash from a certain demographic
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After the AT incident, and all of the past attacks on Clark, the league is blind once again to this latest assault.

Kceasthawk@77 said:
Just wait until all the "Clark white privilege" crap starts tomorrow if it is.....
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Then you have this as well.

 
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WDSMHawk said:
There's a better chance Sophie this is Sophie's last season with the Fever than it is Steph White's
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After the "incident" it wouldn' surprise me to see Cunningham leave if White survives. Hate to see it because she is an intergal part of the team right now.
 
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If the Fever organization sticks up for white and would let Sophie go I may been done watching, cc or not. They need to take a stand against this crap. And cc needs to stand up for Sophie against the coach. All this drama is getting tiresome.

It boggles the mind why white would take this stance after watching the video.
 
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oldxbbc said:
After the "incident" it wouldn' surprise me to see Cunningham leave if White survives. Hate to see it because she is an intergal part of the team right now.
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I meant it's more likely the Fever make this Sophie's last season in Indiana rather than Steph's.

She had a terrible 3 game stretch. If this slump continues I wouldn't be surprised if the Fever front office decide she's not worth the headaches she causes.
 
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