Lmao, she was asked a question and she politely answered it. You seem to have a real problem with other peoples opinion when it doesn't go along with what you think
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I agree with you. I am sure the counter protesters will be loud and interesting.
There's a lot of people (including the parents) who think that biological girls and biological women ONLY should compete in girls and women's sports.
I am glad that Caitlin brought MILLIONS of eyeballs onto the WNBA because now the entire nation is seeing what an ugly, ugly product it is.
There's a lot of people (including the parents) who think that biological girls and biological women ONLY should compete in girls and women's sports. Martina Navratilova, a lesbian and one of the greatest tennis players of all time, is one of them and she definitely is not what you call "MAGA grift."
She said what she said. She looked pretty friendly with the guy that ran the gladiator games on the White House grounds. Her social media posts are pretty maga, and she is for sure going to be cashing in.
The only thing Sophie has done that disappointed me was being part of the UFC desecration of the White House lawn. These dumb MAGAs on here actually think libs like me are advocating for boys playing girls sports. They always believe the fear porn from Republican liars. I think trans people have a right to exist. Not boys playing girls sports. Most democrats believe the same.
Agree with this 1000%. While the % is incredibly small of trans playing women’s sports it just shouldn’t be. You want to transition over, I’m all for it. Whatever makes a person happy. And Sophie can say whatever she wants. But unfortunately this just makes it harder for CC who is in a no win situation here. She’s trying to not take sides on anything. And she shouldn’t have to.
Good ESPN article.
Some excerpts:
A few dozen people gathered outside of Tuesday's Indiana at Seattle WNBA game to express support for a ballot initiative that would bar transgender students from participating in girls' athletics at schools in Washington.
Two of them, who identified themselves in an online interview as 16-year-olds, later attended the game wearing T-shirts from the brand XX-XY Athletics. They also held a sign thanking Fever guard Sophie Cunningham, who has been vocal about the issue for "speaking up for girls."
The way any person, organization or league should manage such a thing (no matter what side of the ballot initiative the girls were on) is to ignore it and accept that (gasp) people can have honestly held opinions.
Instead, Seattle co-owner Celeste Keaton confronted the young fans.
"She told us we were f---ing insane," one of the girls told political commentator and podcast host Brandi Kruse.
The Storm later issued an apology for Keaton's actions: "We remain committed to creating a welcoming and respectful environment for anyone who attends a Storm game." The WNBA jumped in and issued a fine and five-home game suspension for the owner.
Good for the league, which desperately needed to signal a measure of common sense.
It will, however, do little to calm the, ah, storm.
After all, according to a 2025 New York Times poll, 79% of Americans believe transgender female athletes "should not be allowed to compete in women's sports." The issue isn't close.
All of this came just days after an All-Star Weekend, when the discussion centered on how the WNBA needs to focus on actual basketball rather than wedge issues. So much for that.
One problem is that Keaton represents a part of the league -- players, coaches, executives, media, etc. -- that seems to believe that not only should every player, and apparently every fan, agree with them on every issue, but that everyone has an obligation to express that opinion publicly.
The league has grown quickly in recent years, from an often overlooked entity to what will, by 2030, be a 18-team operation (up from 12) playing a 50-game schedule (up from 30 to 34). Perhaps the only thing that can stunt growth is continuing to insult customers.
While there was a sizable contingent among longtime supporters who enjoyed the like-minded community the league could provide, it was never homogenous -- television ratings were consistently bolstered by fans of men's basketball eager for games to watch each summer.
Now everything is new, bigger and more diverse. These are incredible athletes competing at the highest level. Support what they do on the court instead of trying to police what they (and their fans) think off the court.
www.espn.com
Some excerpts:
A few dozen people gathered outside of Tuesday's Indiana at Seattle WNBA game to express support for a ballot initiative that would bar transgender students from participating in girls' athletics at schools in Washington.
Two of them, who identified themselves in an online interview as 16-year-olds, later attended the game wearing T-shirts from the brand XX-XY Athletics. They also held a sign thanking Fever guard Sophie Cunningham, who has been vocal about the issue for "speaking up for girls."
The way any person, organization or league should manage such a thing (no matter what side of the ballot initiative the girls were on) is to ignore it and accept that (gasp) people can have honestly held opinions.
Instead, Seattle co-owner Celeste Keaton confronted the young fans.
"She told us we were f---ing insane," one of the girls told political commentator and podcast host Brandi Kruse.
The Storm later issued an apology for Keaton's actions: "We remain committed to creating a welcoming and respectful environment for anyone who attends a Storm game." The WNBA jumped in and issued a fine and five-home game suspension for the owner.
Good for the league, which desperately needed to signal a measure of common sense.
It will, however, do little to calm the, ah, storm.
After all, according to a 2025 New York Times poll, 79% of Americans believe transgender female athletes "should not be allowed to compete in women's sports." The issue isn't close.
All of this came just days after an All-Star Weekend, when the discussion centered on how the WNBA needs to focus on actual basketball rather than wedge issues. So much for that.
One problem is that Keaton represents a part of the league -- players, coaches, executives, media, etc. -- that seems to believe that not only should every player, and apparently every fan, agree with them on every issue, but that everyone has an obligation to express that opinion publicly.
The league has grown quickly in recent years, from an often overlooked entity to what will, by 2030, be a 18-team operation (up from 12) playing a 50-game schedule (up from 30 to 34). Perhaps the only thing that can stunt growth is continuing to insult customers.
While there was a sizable contingent among longtime supporters who enjoyed the like-minded community the league could provide, it was never homogenous -- television ratings were consistently bolstered by fans of men's basketball eager for games to watch each summer.
Now everything is new, bigger and more diverse. These are incredible athletes competing at the highest level. Support what they do on the court instead of trying to police what they (and their fans) think off the court.
Wetzel: WNBA apology unlikely to calm the gathering political storm
Columnist Dan Wetzel says the WNBA should stop trying to police what players and fans think.
www.espn.com
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Spread the hate sounds like a good plan. Maybe just laugh at their hypocracy.
Id be more wary of priests than Trans in a bathroom but you do you.
B4 you jump my ****. I think if you are born w a dick but identify as female God played a ****** trick on you but that doesnt mean you get to compete against females.
I also think J.K. Rowling has a good take on this.. just one old man's take.
How dare you post about actual basketball news! I demand we talk about how ****** other teams terrible fan bases are. DO BETTER FRAN! (SARCASM)
If she "Runs her mouth" trying to keep dudes out of girls and women's sports, then keep running your mouth, Sophie.
I'm going to agree with you on this because I strongly feel that sports and politics don't mix. LeBron was a huge advocate for political opinion for years until Adam Silver put a stop to it. You don't hear a peep around politics in the league now. And that's the way it should be. Sophie, going forward, can get her message out without getting into the political spectrum.
Much of the "Ugliness" is brought to you by a "Do nothing queen" Commissioner. The inmates are running the asylum.
There are more anti-trans in sports bills and laws than there are boys in girls sports. I view that as less of the issue than how the issue gets politically leveraged. So what I'm actually doing is speaking against how this issue will be used to sow derision and be used as a mantra politically for certain types.
I feels like a lot of this stuff has been bubbling up in the W for the last few years and I definitely place the lion's share on the commissioner.
This is Engelbert's final season. The ball is in Silver's court now. I'm sure he'll do the right thing. The W could be so much more enjoyable with good leadership. In the more natural sense, as the older players fade into retirement, the younger talent will shine, and with good management, the league should finally prosper and garner much less scrutiny as well.
Yep. The commissioner instead of staying ahead of this from the get go actually hoped it would just go away. She also (though she should have) way underestimated the impact Clark would have on the league. Look, I get that 60-70% of the league is lesbian. And the fan base before CC I’m sure also leaned heavily that way. The All Star game and everything that surrounded it was an absolute PR nightmare for that league. It’s also crazy disappointing that the league owners didn’t realize what was going to happen as well. The owners are culpable as well in this. Just ridiculous. It’s not going to just go away.
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