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Have you seen how many players in the WNBA do this? Most of them. I'll tell you what she doesn't do, slap the clipboard out of her coach's had and pull other players down to the ground by their hair.CC is a great player, but one of the most histrionic professional athletes I've ever seen. Can she not throw her hands up, clap aggressively, or gesture wildly after the end of a play? Just once? It's really getting old.
Reese may be the most unathletic and awkward-looking "professional" athlete I've ever seen. There are some smooth players in the league, but she's the poster child for why it's a bit of a joke. Well, her and the officials.
I get it. For many Iowa fans she's untouchable. It's the 3rd rail you must stay away from. I agree that the league in general is a joke. She's not doing much to set herself apart (above) from it with her constant rants on the court.Have you seen how many players in the WNBA do this? Most of them. I'll tell you what she doesn't do, slap the clipboard out of her coach's had and pull other players down to the ground by their hair.
Not saying she's untouchable, just saying most players in the WNBA have the same reactions when they're called for a foul, or don't get a foul called that they think should've been. They all throw their arms up and complain to the refs and ask their coaches for a review. I'm not a fan of any of it either. But for some reason CC is the only one that gets called out for doing it.I get it. For many Iowa fans she's untouchable. It's the 3rd rail you must stay away from. I agree that the league in general is a joke. She's not doing much to set herself apart (above) from it with her constant rants on the court.
She's certainly not the only one who complains about calls, but her frequency and intensity stands out.Not saying she's untouchable, just saying most players in the WNBA have the same reactions when they're called for a foul, or don't get a foul called that they think should've been. They all throw their arms up and complain to the refs and ask their coaches for a review. I'm not a fan of any of it either. But for some reason CC is the only one that gets called out for doing it.
exactlyNot saying she's untouchable, just saying most players in the WNBA have the same reactions when they're called for a foul, or don't get a foul called that they think should've been. They all throw their arms up and complain to the refs and ask their coaches for a review. I'm not a fan of any of it either. But for some reason CC is the only one that gets called out for doing it.
Even if you only watch fever games you will see the opposing team do it just like her. There is also that ****** smirk they do when called for fouling Caitlin like there is some special whistle. Which amuses me because I feel for some reason they allow a lot more contact against her than others. Kind of like the refs rarely calling fouls against guys trying to guard Shaq back in the day.Yes and No. There's some of it sure. But CC stands out.
Agree. They're going to be very tough. Losing Natasha Howard was a big loss for the Fever. Billings not filling those shoes yet.Watching the Lynx today and I think I've seen them maybe 3 times this year. When they get Collier back they are going to be tough to beat. Natasha Howard is having a great year and add in Olivia Miles who looks like she should have been the #1 pick in the draft I think they are the team to beat.
I think it stands out because more people talk about her doing it and there are more video clips of her doing it being put out there by people who have problems with her.Yes and No. There's some of it sure. But CC stands out.
Anyone when can be a liability on the ball if they’re left on an island. Look at the two times Raven tried to guard the point guard the last game…the point guard went right by her for easy layups.But as we've seen, CC can be an actual liability on the ball. And on the ball is by far the most important defensive category
True, but Clark is not one of those players.Defense absolutely is a team effort.
But steals aren't necessarily an indicator of good off-ball D, as again, some of those players are gambling too much
Overall, her defense is average. She’s better than some and worse than others, but this new narrative that she’s some horrible defensive player is a lot of nonsense. It’s hard to iso against one particular player in some defensive schemes, unfortunately White’s defensive scheme is not one of those.Yes, some players with high steal numbers are good defenders. I've only said that steals isn't the best indicator.
No, CC doesn't gamble too much. But again, arguing for CC's overall D, says it all.
In no way have I tried to bring CC down. I'm only commenting on the fans that live in fantasy land, when it comes to her
Based on what other than your opinion?Yes, considerably.
You do realize that fouling all the time is not good on ball defense, right?
StopAnyone when can be a liability on the ball if they’re left on an island. Look at the two times Raven tried to guard the point guard the last game…the point guard went right by her for easy layups.
As I mentioned, as wellTrue, but Clark is not one of those players.
StopOverall, her defense is average. She’s better than some and worse than others, but this new narrative that she’s some horrible defensive player is a lot of nonsense. It’s hard to iso against one particular player in some defensive schemes, unfortunately White’s defensive scheme is not one of those.
StopYou do realize that fouling all the time is not good on ball defense, right?
You're definitely correct. I've watched them numerous times and they're impressive. Miles is a revelation. Just didn't think she would be this good. She's already one of the best point guards in the league.Watching the Lynx today and I think I've seen them maybe 3 times this year. When they get Collier back they are going to be tough to beat. Natasha Howard is having a great year and add in Olivia Miles who looks like she should have been the #1 pick in the draft I think they are the team to beat.
Paige needed her girlfriend on the team though.........Olivia Miles who looks like she should have been the #1 pick in the draft I think they are the team to beat.
Solid pointsOverall, her defense is average. She’s better than some and worse than others, but this new narrative that she’s some horrible defensive player is a lot of nonsense. It’s hard to iso against one particular player in some defensive schemes, unfortunately White’s defensive scheme is not one of those.
Draymond Green had this to sayAnyone when can be a liability on the ball if they’re left on an island. Look at the two times Raven tried to guard the point guard the last game…the point guard went right by her for easy layups.
Whatever you say captain, I guess that’s your only response.Stop
I've never understood where these gals (Reese, and Mitchell as well) learned to shoot layups from the waist. that's is an incredibly low % shot. I give Mitchell a bit of a pass as at 5'7" sh's going into the trees in the lane, (but she still misses a bunch of them because of the bad form). At 6'3" there is NO reason in the world that Reese should be shooting layups like that. Its crazy that not only early on, but at Maryland, LSU, and now as a pro that NO one has been able to break her of that nonsense. And there is no reason the Dream should be allowing her to shoot jump shots especially three's. She makes Hannah looked like a skilled jump shooter....I saw a stat that at one point she was the only starter (or some qualifier) to have not made a shot from outside 5 feet.
She's made a 3 so that stat is no longer accurate, but her form and results on anything other than a layup is laughably terrible, and even her layups often aren't much better.
"greater size"? They are both listed at 6' tall. And Clark has bulked up to about 155Lbs. There's n OT much of a difference..The gap would narrow, for sure.
But to me, PB's greater size and athletiscm will always give her both a higher floor and higher ceiling, than CC as a defender
PB is officially listed as 6’0”, 160lb and CC is officially listed as 6’0”, 157lb.
It sounds to me like the key to Clark becoming a better defender is a heaping plate of pasta.
This. Paige is not any bigger then Clark....PB is officially listed as 6’0”, 160lb and CC is officially listed as 6’0”, 157lb.
It sounds to me like the key to Clark becoming a better defender is a heaping plate of pasta.
This exactly.......I think it stands out because more people talk about her doing it and there are more video clips of her doing it being put out there by people who have problems with her.
I kinda agree with this. Especially about the intensity and goes on a little too long sometimes. But she does gets fouled ALL the time too, I'd be pissed alsoShe's certainly not the only one who complains about calls, but her frequency and intensity stands out.
So far, so good. 3 rebs to go along with that.Billings has 5 early points.