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BlueRunner11

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are college and nba games incented the same way though? The nba exists only to entertain and to make money. I can't help but suspect that the "crappy" officiating is conveniently used to play up the drama and to extend series when required

Both money makers. The NCAA revenue was 800-900 million in 2012. If there's a way to make money, it will be made. If there's a way to make even more money, it will be made.
 
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Both money makers. The NCAA revenue was 800-900 million in 2012. If there's a way to make money, someone will find it. If there's a way to make even more money, that same person will find it.
Perhaps on the drama aspect, but at least it there isn't a way or need for college refs to extend a series. If it's about revenue in college officiating, you better believe we'd be in the final four every year. As a fan base, we spend a hell of a lot
 

BlueRunner11

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Perhaps on the drama aspect, but at least it there isn't a way or need for college refs to extend a series. If it's about revenue in college officiating, you better believe we'd be in the final four every year. As a fan base, we spend a hell of a lot

Yeah just saying nothing is above manipulation and some corruption. Degrees and the methods vary obviously.
 

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Lebron on the other hand showed his true colors when he got the block on Curry and had to verbally taunt him - Lebron has matured greatly over the years especially in learning the right things to say in post game interviews and press conferences - but if anyone wonders why there are Lebron haters - there's your answer.
That's funny, because LeBron NEVER taunts like that. And he barely did on that play. Even the announcers on the post game shows were stating their shock, because they'd never seen that side of LeBron. Or at least very very rarely. LeBron is not a trash talker and never has been. That's one of the things I like about him. He doesn't disrespect the game and he doesn't disrespect his opponents. The only reason he did that last night is, all the trash GS players were talking about him after Game 4.
 

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If they called everything that was by the book a foul, they would never stop blowing the whistle. They let someone completely run someone over, and then call ticky tack reach in fouls. Zero consistency.
That was not even close to a ticky tack reach in. Dude was reaching in like it was the last piece of ham at a thanksgiving feast of 20 lol.
 
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That's funny, because LeBron NEVER taunts like that. And he barely did on that play. Even the announcers on the post game shows were stating their shock, because they'd never seen that side of LeBron. Or at least very very rarely. LeBron is not a trash talker and never has been. That's one of the things I like about him. He doesn't disrespect the game and he doesn't disrespect his opponents. The only reason he did that last night is, all the trash GS players were talking about him after Game 4.
Don't use facts in your arguments lol. I've been called a LeBron hater and LeBron lover both over the past two games due to having facts. In fact I'm neither, but a lover of the game. Currys shooting amazes me and LeBron is the greatest athlete of all time.
 
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- Oh yes - and the officiating has been terrible, inconsistent and highly suspect. Makes you wonder who the NBA wants to win game 7. $$$

pretty sure the point in your tin foil hat world is just to get to a game 7. they don't care who wins now (personally i think golden state -5 is stealing money--they might win by 30)

and if you think the officiating has been bad in this series, i wonder how many uk games you watched this past season
 
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That was not even close to a ticky tack reach in. Dude was reaching in like it was the last piece of ham at a thanksgiving feast of 20 lol.

If you are talking about the one with LeBron, I agree. If you are talking about the one where he stripped Irving for his 5th, I vehemently disagree. Pundits agreed it shouldn't have been a foul.
 
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I hate to say this because I am a Cavs fan but I can't see the Cavs winning at GS in a game 7. GS only lost game 5 because Green was out. The last time a team won game 7 on the road on in the NBA Finals was 1978.

The Cavs really had to win 4 straight games to win this and a championship. As great as tonight is I just can't see LeBron having a 3rd straight game like he has had the last 2 in GS.

GS crowd will be nuts and the Cavs have to play a 3rd straight near perfect game.

Cavs really had to win game 4.
yep, that's how I see it - they had to win game 4 at home. Unreasonable to expect to beat GS twice at their place in a 7 game series.
 

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If you are talking about the one with LeBron, I agree. If you are talking about the one where he stripped Irving for his 5th, I vehemently disagree. Pundits agreed it shouldn't have been a foul.
The actual strip of Kyrie was clean, but he fouled him even before the strip occurred when he was riding him and swatting at his arm. Everyone gets away with stuff but it seems they let curry throw his body all over who he is defending because of how small he is.
 
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I'm thinking there's a good chance game 7 isn't close - once again laying waste to the conventional thinking that home court is worth +3....which causes me cognitive dissonance. I know that Vegas thinks home court is worth 3, because I know that Jeff Sagarin is a Vegas proxy essentially. And I know that Vegas knows all and is clearly omniscient on these matters. Still. hard to reconcile that with what we've seen in this series and what we'll see Sunday and even the thought that home court at Rupp is worth exactly the same as home court at McNeese State.....
 

BlueRunner11

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The actual strip of Kyrie was clean, but he fouled him even before the strip occurred when he was riding him and swatting at his arm. Everyone gets away with stuff but it seems they let curry throw his body all over who he is defending because of how small he is.

Riding, hand checking, and swatting had occurred on nearly every possession for the past two games. Why call it then?

GSW had cut it to 7 when the touch fouls started getting called. It was rugby up to that point.
 
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Riding, hand checking, and swatting had occurred on nearly every possession for the past two games. Why call it then?

GSW had cut it to 7 when the touch fouls started getting called. It was rugby up to that point.
Was it rugby in the first half when the refs called the phantom touch fouls on Kevin Love?
 
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That's funny, because LeBron NEVER taunts like that. And he barely did on that play. Even the announcers on the post game shows were stating their shock, because they'd never seen that side of LeBron. Or at least very very rarely. LeBron is not a trash talker and never has been. That's one of the things I like about him. He doesn't disrespect the game and he doesn't disrespect his opponents. The only reason he did that last night is, all the trash GS players were talking about him after Game 4.
Not gonna hate on Lebron or defend him, and not gonna try to talk anyone outta their love for him. I am just saying it's moments like that, like dragging out his free agency and dumping on CLE to take his talents to south beach, declaring "Not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7 championships", then dumping on south beach back to CLE as things started to sour, talking about his next dream team 2.0 of him melo CP3 and wade... I am just saying those moments are why people don't like him - and yes some of the way he complains on the court so often - so it shouldn't be confusing. He's a great player and has definitely dominated the last two games.

And it IS considered disrespect to another player to stare down, taunt and walk across the top of them when they are down on the floor... so Lebron isn't the absolute great sport who never does anything wrong.
 
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LineSkiCat14

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The Curry family is rising the ranks as the most dis-likable family in Sports. Good grief, this dumb hoe probably got plucked from the hood, rode the Steph Curry gravy train for a few years, had NO issues with the crap officiating that went on all season for them.. and the second the calls don't go Golden State's way, she's going off on social media and now starting crap with Stephen A.
 

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Over the last few weeks, I've started to see some Lebron-haters switching sides as to who they want to see win the title. That kind of tells you the feelings surrounding Golden State. In 24 hours alone, Curry, his wife, and Kerr have all done quite douchey moves.

It's becoming pretty easy to root against them, IMO.. and aside from the biggest Lebron haters (coupled with his blistering and awe-struck finals performance).. how can you not pick Lebron at this point.

Cleveland's most hated player at this point is trailing behind a WAG from the other team, Golden State, in terms of "most hated".. that's nuts.
 

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The Curry family is rising the ranks as the most dis-likable family in Sports. Good grief, this dumb hoe probably got plucked from the hood, rode the Steph Curry gravy train for a few years, had NO issues with the crap officiating that went on all season for them.. and the second the calls don't go Golden State's way, she's going off on social media and now starting crap with Stephen A.

Wow! Really?! "Plucked from the hood"?! Please keep your racism thinly veiled the way America likes it.
 
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LineSkiCat14

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Fine, plucked from some salon in Bev Hills. It's not a white or black thing.. it's a "Good looking (well not really, she's kind of beat if you're the MVP) middle-class girl trying to get with an athlete with 1,000x the earnings".
 

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Fine, plucked from some salon in Bev Hills. It's not a white or black thing.. it's a "Good looking (well not really, she's kind of beat if you're the MVP) girl trying to get with an athlete".

Clearly it was a black or white thing because you used the term "plucked from the hood'. We all know what type (or color) of people you're talking about using that phrase. Also, Steph Curry and Ayesha Curry dated throughout high school in North Carolina as well as college at Davidson. Please be informed. It takes like 3 minutes to Google this stuff.
 

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Well it's basketball, where 75% of the league is bl**k (I don't want to say it because it might hurt your baby ears).. are you that naive to think there isn't an ever-present problem of gold-digging women looking for a pay day? I used the word that fit. If Robert Swift were to run into this scenario, I'd say she was pulled from the dirtbike track. I'll change the material accordingly, don't worry.

I will never google how long an NBA couple was together. I'll take your word for it. Honestly, IDC if I'm wrong about how long they were together for, because, well.. I don't care. That's a rare scenario, either way. And doesn't change the original point: That she should close her mouth.
 

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I haven't watched one minute of the finals. I really don't care about either team but after GS ran their mouths and Green being a dirty player, I hope Lebron gives Cleveland a title.
 

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Honestly, IDC if I'm wrong about how long they were together for, because

It invalidates the assumptions underlying your "plucked from the hood" comment? Whether or not she should keep quiet about officiating (who cares? her opinion should be a tree falling in the forest that no one hears) has nothing to do with whether she was "plucked from the hood" or the product of a relationship predating Steph's stardom (or frankly even hints at it).
 

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It's an issue that permeates the entire league. That would have been the correct guess the majority of the time (Dirtbike track or the club or McDonalds for the PC police). I missed on that one. Normally, it's some nobody riding the coattails of an athlete, and they want to not only start talking **** after a win, but then whine about the very act that helped the team get there?

Unfortunately, a tree falling in the forest, and social media, don't exactly work together.
 

coolcat9lives

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Well it's basketball, where 75% of the league is bl**k (I don't want to say it because it might hurt your baby ears).. are you that naive to think there isn't an ever-present problem of gold-digging women looking for a pay day? I used the word that fit. If Robert Swift were to run into this scenario, I'd say she was pulled from the dirtbike track.

I will never google how long an NBA couple was together. I'll take your word for it. Honestly, IDC if I'm wrong about how long they were together for, because, well.. I couldn't care. That's a rare scenario, either way. And doesn't change the original point: That she should close her mouth.

I would like to explain all the reasons I find this unacceptable. I'd also like to explain all the ways I think you have a limited world view. Finally, I'd like to explain all the ways I think that worldview shapes this particular half-baked statement. I wont though because I'm quite sure there is no way for you to see it from my end. I'll just hop in my PC police mobile and head off to the next crime scene. Have a good day sir.
 

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You too, sir. I'll remember to just use my white stereotype jokes when you're present from now on.
 

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LeBron is one of the best basketball players in the history of the game. I don't know why it shocks so many fans when a dude as good as LeBron decides to put his team on his back and lead them to a championship. It's what the great players do. Most had the Cavs losing in 5, now we are in game 7 and LeBron refuses to give up and call it quits. If LeBron can hold on and defeat one of the most talented teams in a long time, it will add even more to the man's legacy. We're talking about a team that broke the 97 bulls regular season wins record. That's crazy. I want LeBron to take game 7 and bring his home city a championship. That would be epic. Curry's wife is being a sore loser. It seems the world is full of those type of people lately. The Nba wanted a game 7? No ****! That would mean even more money made by the Nba. Say what you want, but at the end of the day it all comes down to making money. The Nba wanted a game 7 between Curry and Bron. That is ratings. I don't think the Nba/refs had as much to do with the game going to the full seven as much as Bron James. Sometimes a talent like Bron refuses to go away and won't take anything less than a title.
 
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Not gonna hate on Lebron or defend him, and not gonna try to talk anyone outta their love for him. I am just saying it's moments like that, like dragging out his free agency and dumping on CLE to take his talents to south beach, declaring "Not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7 championships", then dumping on south beach back to CLE as things started to sour, talking about his next dream team 2.0 of him melo CP3 and wade... I am just saying those moments are why people don't like him - and yes some of the way he complains on the court so often - so it shouldn't be confusing. He's a great player and has definitely dominated the last two games.

And it IS considered disrespect to another player to stare down, taunt and walk across the top of them when they are down on the floor... so Lebron isn't the absolute great sport who never does anything wrong.
Never will understand how LeBron has managed to irritate so many for doing things so many others have done.

How, exactly, did he "dump" on Cleveland by leaving in the first place? He was a free agent, not under contract - that's how that works. Same for the second move back to Cleveland. he wanted to switch teams - why the big deal, happens all the time. Never understand those who criticized him for teaming up with two other stars (although I hesitate to call Bosch a star). By the time he left, Cleveland had proved they weren't interested in getting him any help - that team he took to the finals to play San Antonio might be the worst finals team in history. Mo Williams at point? It was easy for Magic and Bird and Barkley to criticize that move - but it made no sense. Bird had McHale and Parrish and DJ; Magic had Kareem; Barkley had Dr J and Moses. They didn't have to switch teams to have great teammates. As far as the "not 1, not 2, not 3...." - I know that self-aggrandizement at times doesn't go over well - but it's ironic that we just saw a worldwide celebration of Ali, and when it comes to bragging and boasting and self-aggrandizing, LJ can't hold a candle to Ali, he's a true piker. I know, I know, inconsistency is human nature......
 
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By the time he left, Cleveland had proved they weren't interested in getting him any help - that team he took to the finals to play San Antonio might be the worst finals team in history. Mo Williams at point? It was easy for Magic and Bird and Barkley to criticize that move - but it made no sense. Bird had McHale and Parrish and DJ; Magic had Kareem; Barkley had Dr J and Moses.

boobie gibson
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blew a lotto pick on luke jackson

that team was awful
 

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It'd be better if you just didn't use stereotypes. I don't like them from any angle. The world is nuanced.

No. It'd be better if I did. You just pick and choose which ones piss you off or not. So we can see how much YOU'RE a racist.

I hate on everyone equally.. Hill billies to ghetto trash.

Unless you're Irish. No one hates the Irish.
 

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Just saw LeBron is leading both teams in every statistical category..points, rebounds, assists, steals, etc. Haters mad...it's probably bc of Kyrie.
 

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I am not one who believes in conspiracy theories, but the NBA playoffs this season have me thinking otherwise. The officiating has been nothing short of pure crap. I am not fan of the Cavs or the Warriors and don't really care who wins, however the BS the Cavs/James got away with last night was comical. The Cleveland Browns could only pray they had a running back that runs over players like James does. I have to agree with Steve Kerr, the last fouls on Curry were ridiculous. I will be pulling for the Warriors on Sunday only because I don't want to see Cleveland win a championship in any sport and I certainly don't want to see Princess James win another title.
 

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Easy bro.... It's not over yet, we all know Cleveland here and it's bound to turn sour...

I was in no way implying the series is over, I know exactly how this works, we will lose game 7 and be so close yet so far, again.