Cavs got screwed at the end.

Lawdawg.sixpack

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First by the refs, then by JR Smith. That reversal of the charge call was garbage. Probably the right call but overturning a judgment call on review is not a good precedent.

Nice awareness, JR...
 

Msubulldogfan1

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Not to mention the strip foul called on lebron was clean, then the no call foul on looney stripping lebron.

Cavs got ****** by the refs.
 

Lawdawg.sixpack

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You got it.

I think charge was the right call. But the ref up top was going to call a block - i can see that. What's terrible is reversing a charge call on a review.
 

jethreauxdawg

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I agree that they changed it to the correct call, but I don't like the idea of changing judgement calls.
 

Lawdawg.sixpack

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^^^ this is 100% truth. Let Kendrick Perkins start the next game, just to punch Draymond in the face.
 

TrueMaroonGrind

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^^^ this is 100% truth. Let Kendrick Perkins start the next game, just to punch Draymond in the face.

I think Perkins is a fake tough guy, but maybe it's worth a try. I'll just say I haven't gotten this worked up over a basketball player since Marshall Henderson and that says it all.
 

Msubulldogfan1

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I think Perkins is a fake tough guy, but maybe it's worth a try. I'll just say I haven't gotten this worked up over a basketball player since Marshall Henderson and that says it all.

Nah, perk is on the list.

He slaps your girls ***, wyd? Putting your head down and minding your buisness, that’s what lol.
 

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That was terrible

The Cavs deserved to win. I understand the restricted area component of the call, but to change a call on the floor that did not involve the restricted area is terrible. That is an awful precedent and the officials screwed the Cavs.

As for JR Smith, that was one of the worst plays I have seen since maybe Chris Webber in the NCAAT. And don't forget, JR is also the guy that gave up the 40 ft 3pt shot to Curry at the end of the first half attempting to go for a steal at midcourt with one second left. He made two dumb plays to close out both the 2nd and 4th quarter. Not knowing the score at the end of the game in the finals really may have been the worst sport moment I've seen. You would think after 15 years....oh well.

Between that and the garbage block call, you have to feel the Cavs are done. That was their chance to get one.

Lost in all this is the fact that LeBron James is as good as anyone that has ever stepped on a basketball court.
 
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blacklistedbully

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LMAO. Folks on here bitching about a bad call not being allowed to stand,"cheating"the Cavs of a W. You guys are scraping the bottom of the barrel for sure. When you are literally pissed your team was not allowed to benefit from a call you know was bad, that's ridiculous.
 

Lawdawg.sixpack

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It's a judgment call that could've gone either way. Even Steve Javvy on SC was saying he would've called it a charge. So to say it was a "bad call" is not correct - it was a questionable call. And that's the reason why those calls (like holding and PI in football) should never be changed on review. Except to see whether the defender's foot was in the circle. That's concrete. The review should stop there.

When you are literally pissed

 

o_1984Dawg

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The NBA allowing review of block/charge, but only in the case of a review of the restricted area, is the dumbest replay rule I've ever heard of. Review it, or don't.
 

BiscuitEater

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Nice awareness, JR...

It makes it even stranger when JR insists that he knew that the game was tied .."He thought it was over,” Cavs coach Tyronn Lue said. “He thought we were up one.” Smith disagreed. “If I thought we were ahead, I would have just held onto the ball and let them foul me,” he said.[h=4]
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Seinfeld

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He’s the modern day Kevin Garnett. A certified badass up until it’s time to get real. At that point, he’ll wait just long enough for his teammates to get in between them

That said, it’s probably a little unfair to put KG in the same category. Garnett seems to be a pretty good guy and respectable person off the court. Green is just a damn idiot. All I can say is that he better be thankful for organized sports.
 

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How about the bogus ejection for Thompson at the end of the game? Seriously, there were 2.6 seconds left, and Brothers thinks that he might have seen an elbow fly, so he immediately ejects Thompson without even discussing it with his crew???

I make statements all the time about officials needing to be held liable for their poor judgments just as much as players, but Brothers seriously needs to be suspended for that. It was a completely incorrect call, he ejected a guy without even taking a second to discuss with his cohorts, and it single handedly led to what may now be multiple player suspensions for the NBA finals. All this with 2.6 seconds left, mind you. Inexcusable call by Brothers, and it should have never happened
 

Faustdog

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I can see the hate for Golden with the showboating and all, but how can you not hate Cleveland too? Not a single guy on that team, especially LeBron, has ever committed a foul in his life. Biggest group of whiners on the planet.
 

fishwater99

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You got it.

I think charge was the right call. But the ref up top was going to call a block - i can see that. What's terrible is reversing a charge call on a review.

Then don't allow it in the rules. The rule is there so they get the call right, and they did.
 

Go Budaw

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Lost in all the commotion with the foul reversal and the JR Smith gaffe is the fact that if George Hill (who was an 80% FT shooter for the season) just sinks both free throws its still a W for the Cavs in all likelihood. It’s a simple game, really. You’re a professional basketball player. Make your damn free throws when you have to.
 

mstateglfr

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Lost in all the commotion with the foul reversal and the JR Smith gaffe is the fact that if George Hill (who was an 80% FT shooter for the season) just sinks both free throws its still a W for the Cavs in all likelihood. It’s a simple game, really. You’re a professional basketball player. Make your damn free throws when you have to.

Jalen made this same comment earlier this morning.
He was a career 80% ft shooter. Solid %, but thats still 1 of every 5 shots is a miss.

Acting lime free throws are automatic is dumb as ****.

The league average this season is 76.7% which is missing almost 1 in every 4 shots.

Telling someone to make their damn free throws just because they are a pro is 17ing dumb when you consider the league average.
Free throws arent automatic.

Oh, and the shooting for the final teams should usually be better than league average. It is. Even still, its under 80% from the line.
 

TrueMaroonGrind

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How about the bogus ejection for Thompson at the end of the game? Seriously, there were 2.6 seconds left, and Brothers thinks that he might have seen an elbow fly, so he immediately ejects Thompson without even discussing it with his crew???

I make statements all the time about officials needing to be held liable for their poor judgments just as much as players, but Brothers seriously needs to be suspended for that. It was a completely incorrect call, he ejected a guy without even taking a second to discuss with his cohorts, and it single handedly led to what may now be multiple player suspensions for the NBA finals. All this with 2.6 seconds left, mind you. Inexcusable call by Brothers, and it should have never happened

I expect no less from Tony Brothers. I have seen him blow tons of calls and he holds grudges. No idea why he is refing the finals.
 

Go Budaw

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Jalen made this same comment earlier this morning.
He was a career 80% ft shooter. Solid %, but thats still 1 of every 5 shots is a miss.

Acting lime free throws are automatic is dumb as ****.

The league average this season is 76.7% which is missing almost 1 in every 4 shots.

Telling someone to make their damn free throws just because they are a pro is 17ing dumb when you consider the league average.
Free throws arent automatic.

Oh, and the shooting for the final teams should usually be better than league average. It is. Even still, its under 80% from the line.

Throw out all the stats you want. An 80% FT shooter in the NBA has to make both of those free throws in that situation. If the shoe was on the other foot and Steph Curry missed that free throw, you think he gets a free pass?

I’m not saying Hill is soley to blame for the loss, but you can’t bring up the refs and the JR Smith **** and ignore the fact that a PG who is an elite FT shooter missed the biggest FT of the game. Ask yourself, is it more reasonable to expect JR Smith to make some form of at least a semi-circus putback shot if he knew the correct score (knowing no NBA player shoots that much better than 50% from the field, even post players), or is it more reasonable to simply expect an 80% FT shooter to make a clutch free throw?
 
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mstateglfr

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Throw out all the stats you want. An 80% FT shooter in the NBA has to make both of those free throws in that situation. If the shoe was on the other foot and Steph Curry missed that free throw, you think he gets a free pass?

I’m not saying Hill is soley to blame for the loss, but you can’t bring up the refs and the JR Smith **** and ignore the fact that a PG who is an elite FT shooter missed the biggest FT of the game. Ask yourself, is it more reasonable to expect JR Smith to make some form of at least a semi-circus putback shot if he knew the correct score (knowing no NBA player shoots that much better than 50% from the field, even post players), or is it more reasonable to simply expect an 80% FT shooter to make a clutch free throw?

He isnt an elite free thow shooter. His career average is 3.3% over this year's league average.
That isnt elite.

As for JR...it would have been a contested shot from close to the rim. Shots from 5' and in are on the high end of the % range.

Its more reasonable to expect an 80% free throw shooter to make their free throw than it is to expect a general player to make a semi-circus putback.

I disagree with calling it a semi-circus put back though. It would have been a straight forward contested shot close to the basket. No wild circus shot was needed. A pump fake on Durant, dribble, and layup on the reverse side is completely simple and hardly circus wild.

But really, 3.3% over the league average isnt elite.
 

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Come on people...this is just a ratings ploy. This series is going seven games to pull in as much money as possible. They'll call the next game as bad against the warriors. Refs only job in the nba playoffs is to drag series out as much as possible.
 

TrueMaroonGrind

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Come on people...this is just a ratings ploy. This series is going seven games to pull in as much money as possible. They'll call the next game as bad against the warriors. Refs only job in the nba playoffs is to drag series out as much as possible.

If it was a ratings ploy Cleveland would have won.
 
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