Cassius Clay Dead at 74
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The greatest has fallen. At least the Rebs can be thankful to not be in the news cycle for a while.
Muhammed Ali didn't "dodge the draft." He confronted it directly and beat the
Muhammed Ali didn't "dodge the draft." He confronted it directly and beat the holy hell out of it.-Kevin M. Kruse
https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/739129508788207616
Muhammed Ali didn't "dodge the draft." He confronted it directly and beat the holy hell out of it.-Kevin M. Kruse
https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/739129508788207616
Here we go with the political bs.Trump..Clinton..and Sanders are all scum..let's stay on topic with Clay.
Twitter, Espn, newspapers, magazines, television...didn't know I needed to list multiple forms of media to have the question be understood.
When Bin Laden was killed it was all over Twitter and every news station. I'm assuming you didn't feel like everyone was trying to make you be all torn up about it. It's news. The greatest boxer of all time died. It's news nothing more
He had a major impact on civil rights and public policy, regardless if you agree with his stance or like what he said or did. One of the few people that was just as famous outside of being the greatest of his generation in a sport.
Trying to think of someone as important to a national discussion since and I can't think of anyone. Jackie Robinson before?
I asking because I don`t know.... not to argue. What was his impact on civil rights and public policy ?
We don't do drafts anymore, and I'm not saying it's because of him but the fact that he won his case in the Supreme Court with a 8-0 decision, I think he had an impact. If nothing else, religious freedom.
He also used his platform as the most famous athlete in the 60's to call out the treatment of minorities, militantly so in a lot of cases (which is why I said you didn't have to like him, my grandfather hated the guy and told me every chance he got).
Like I said, you don't have to like what he said, but to the question of "why should I care and why is it such a big deal that everyone has made a statement at some point on my television?" It's that he was a polarizing figure whose legacy outside of sports is just as noteworthyl as being the greatest fighter of all time. There aren't many people who will get as much attention when they die for that reason.
He also used his platform as the most famous athlete in the 60's to call out the treatment of minorities, militantly so in a lot of cases (which is why I said you didn't have to like him, my grandfather hated the guy and told me every chance he got).
Like I said, you don't have to like what he said, but to the question of "why should I care and why is it such a big deal that everyone has made a statement at some point on my television?" It's that he was a polarizing figure whose legacy outside of sports is just as noteworthyl as being the greatest fighter of all time. There aren't many people who will get as much attention when they die for that reason.
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I lived in the 60`s real time. I was classified 1A when they had the draft lottery and was fortunate enough to draw a high number. Paid big money(at the time) to attend several "close circuit" broadcasts of Ali`s fights. I was a big fan. His conversion to Islam was not a big deal to any of us back then for two reasons. 1) We thought Islam was just another religion that didn`t believe in war from another part of the world...no big deal. 2) WE ALL thought the Vietnam war was ******** and nobody wanted to go...some went to the Guard to get out of going...Ali went to Islam....whatever worked. He was the greatest fighter I ever saw and a great promoter/entertainer. I just don`t remember him being a big influence on the civil rights movement. He was so full of himself and put out so much BS having fun maybe I couldn`t tell when he was bringing his shtick or he was serious.
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