Casey Thompson

[SuperBigFan]

CT is not an upgrade over AM, the stats show that.

But the coaching search will be fun and Trev has shown he goes after big dogs (Dean Bliaze???)

 

[BuckysBoys1]

Nikki, you know as well as I do, those type decisions come from a HC who is a leader and is committed to winning.

When TO made the switch from Grant to Frazier it changed everything. (Not comparing anyone to Tommie).

Frost already showed he will stick with "the guy who's job it is to lose", until the cows come home.

The only way you show these kids who underperformed today that this is about trying to WIN, is to bench some of them, give some backups a chance on the field.

You don't have to put them in the doghouse, but you also can't let them continue to play subpar because it does affect winning and losing. You gotta let them know that missing doable tackles, not completing pass patterns and going all out is just not okay.

I think it's possible they switch to Purdy, the gap between CT and Purdy is small. AM was far better than Smothers so they were never going to switch.

 

[king_kong_]

who knows, maybe they use the next couple of games to warm up someone else at QB and get the right mix, and things takeoff like lightning in a bottle.

We could win 11 straight and still have no shot to qualify for the playoff

season’s over, frost is cooked, we’re on to 2023

honestly very little point for us to even show up the rest of the games aside from qualifying for our media payout (which is all that matters)

 

[NotRileyGates]

Worse than Adrian

That’s for sure

 

[king_kong_]

I was pretty sure we would lose this game because of all the new moving parts. But we could maybe get our feet under us the next 2 and if we beat OU maybe the season could be salvaged. Unlikely, but possible.

No. It’s over.

we have been disqualified from participating in any meaningful games this year

maybe next time

 

[Originalblackburro]

Worse than Adrian

That’s for sure

In the second half certainly

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

I think it's possible they switch to Purdy, the gap between CT and Purdy is small. AM was far better than Smothers so they were never going to switch.

Don't get me wrong Bucky, I think until something may have happened to Casey's throwing hand, he was doing fine. Maybe he wore down in the second half, or whatever.

But, NU is one game into the season and it's gonna be long one. If you're Scott Frost, you best get your head outta your *** and do what's best for the team. If Casey's the man, so be it. But, who's to say Chubba can't come in and spark this team?

Granted, NU will not have any better running game or OLine play, but Chubba is must more apt to pull it down and take off running and maybe salvage a play.

I never understood why they would insert Allen today, a kid who has real wheels and then run him into the pack. You can see the kid has a lot of quickness and great feet.

If you wanna break something with a kid who has that ability, how about run some plays outside designed to get the kid in space and test your theory.

If NU wants to hammer the ball that's Grant and Yant. Speaking out of frustration here.

 

[NikkiSixx_rivals269993]

Maybe we are stuck at Martinez 2.0

I thought it was really important to get off on the right foot, and I felt like they made a mistake with the QB position, but as others have said, we don't see everything happening in practice, and at best we can only read between the lines.

I think Frost being an athlete himself, hurts his decision making as a head coach. He assigns too much weight to raw athletic ability (that he didn't have as a QB) and then also the redemption story, because he himself lived through that. I just don't think that's the way you can run a program for very long.

I'd like to see the staff make a hard turn, and at least warm the next guy up over the next couple of games and see how it goes. Even a QB by committee of sorts.

I would have preferred they started out with a different guy, but that's water under the bridge now.

As a coach, you have to watch the guys.. there is usually a group within the group. That group of guys, is who you want out there playing. That 'team', even if some are not the best athletically, give you the very best chance of winning.

 

[NotRileyGates]

In the second half certainly

Omg he was bad.!maybe it’s the OL. Maybe it’s the QB. But Adrian would have been miles better

 

[braves3]

I would have liked to see Smothers get a series instead of a play.

He should be in every time we need to run the ball. Goal line. 3 and 1. I don't think Thompson played horrible.

 

[Scat_Back]

Jesus, losing really scrambles peoples’ brains. Erik Chinander has built an increasingly good defense his entire time here and yesterday was probably a fluke. Why? No idea. Could be a thousand different reasons.

Casey Thompson might be the most polished, real QB we have had in decades. Seriously, Who was our last QB that actually threw pump fakes? He sat in that constantly closing pocket and threw darts. How we were not able to set up the run with that passing game is frightening.

This loss was 1000% on coaching. The running game play calling was absolutely pathetic. Why the f*^^% is a 65 year old offensive coordinator calling Frost’s plays and not his own???

The onside kick was possibly the worst decision we’ve seen from the Frost regime , and that’s saying a lot. It’s the same story so far with some new staff. We have better athletes, they’re simply not put in a position to win.

 

[tmcats]

Maybe we are stuck at Martinez 2.0

After watching yesterday, I don't believe AMart and CT are at all alike. First and most obvious is that AMart put 50+ on these guys last year.

There were several times yesterday when he would have taken the QB run over the throw. The QB run game was zero sans when they made the QB change for one play.

But coaching cost N the game. That onside kick was nuts.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

After watching yesterday, I don't believe AMart and CT are at all alike. First and most obvious is that AMart put 50+ on these guys last year.

There were several times yesterday when he would have taken the QB run over the throw. The QB run game was zero sans when they made the QB change for one play.

But coaching cost N the game. That onside kick was nuts.

My 2.0 meant not being able to put the game away and weakening down the stretch when the game was on the line.

It also meant maybe Frost will refuse to make a QB change regardless of outcome.

 

[Cornwoman]

Did you buy the hype?

He was fine. Thought he played good enough to win. Coaching, Oline and Dline cost us the game.

 

[RaulJones]

I would have like to have seen #’s 2, 3,4 +7 never leave the field…
On defense, 42 + 28 should have seen more of the sidelines.. Nick is sloooowwwwwwww. And seems to always be locked up with an o-line man getting his Arz kicked..
I know it’s first game together, but our safeties need to get their coverage reads quicker and tackle in open space a bit better, especially when our middle linebackers play terrible!

42 is garbage.

 

[RaulJones]

He was fine. Thought he played good enough to win. Coaching, Oline and Dline cost us the game.

And slow linebackers


Those defensive scheme sucks too.

 

[SWIowahawks_rivals44758]

Really? He showed excellent strength to the boundary

Watched the replay in 60 today and I’ll now agree with this. He had some strong throws to the outside and a couple over the middle. It’s the crossing routes that are trouble. The second play of the game was a “drop” by Palmer. Probably needs to catch it but it was clearly throw behind him. He had another bad one to #2.

It was incredible how bad he looked after that roll out and deep toss to #2. Had two balls that could have been picked aside from the two that were. It’s almost like NW was giving up those boundary plays early on and then changed things and played more press. Iowa does this a lot. You think they are getting torched and then an adjustment is made and it stops.

 

[IowaHogeyeDoosh]

Watched the replay in 60 today and I’ll now agree with this. He had some strong throws to the outside and a couple over the middle. It’s the crossing routes that are trouble. The second play of the game was a “drop” by Palmer. Probably needs to catch it but it was clearly throw behind him. He had another bad one to #2.

It was incredible how bad he looked after that roll out and deep toss to #2. Had two balls that could have been picked aside from the two that were. It’s almost like NW was giving up those boundary plays early on and then changed things and played more press. Iowa does this a lot. You think they are getting torched and then an adjustment is made and it stops.

Your opinion isn’t needed or valued. Eff off Iowa doosh…

 

[PAHusker139]

Picked up good yards, hey I don't know maybe keep him out there till they stop it, maybe the change in running plays gets points.

It would have awesome to have Rahmir at running back along with Smothers. He is an excellent blocker, runner and receiver. It would have made it harder to predict what we do on offense.

 

[HominidHusker]

Watched the replay in 60 today and I’ll now agree with this. He had some strong throws to the outside and a couple over the middle. It’s the crossing routes that are trouble. The second play of the game was a “drop” by Palmer. Probably needs to catch it but it was clearly throw behind him. He had another bad one to #2.

It was incredible how bad he looked after that roll out and deep toss to #2. Had two balls that could have been picked aside from the two that were. It’s almost like NW was giving up those boundary plays early on and then changed things and played more press. Iowa does this a lot. You think they are getting torched and then an adjustment is made and it stops.

I have not rewatched, but I agree it looked like NW may have been better at making adjustments, a hallmark failure at Nebraska.

Another contributing factor was 3 or more? drives where NW punter pinned us deep. Those plays hurt bad and contributed to offense sputtering.

 

[cubsker_rivals142943]

If all NU is going to do is fair catch the kickoffs and punt returns, why not just cut to the chase and put Martin back there and dispense with the ******** of having a return game.

Those DB's NU brought in are gonna watch the film too. I think divisivness can set in pretty early.

Why was Boerkircher playing today? One of the coaches get a great deal on a room of furniture?

He's their number 2 TE. The number 1 TE was hurt, so then the number 2 TE goes into the game.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

He's their number 2 TE. The number 1 TE was hurt, so then the number 2 TE goes into the game.

thanks

 

[NikkiSixx_rivals269993]

Jesus, losing really scrambles peoples’ brains. Erik Chinander has built an increasingly good defense his entire time here and yesterday was probably a fluke. Why? No idea. Could be a thousand different reasons.

Casey Thompson might be the most polished, real QB we have had in decades. Seriously, Who was our last QB that actually threw pump fakes? He sat in that constantly closing pocket and threw darts. How we were not able to set up the run with that passing game is frightening.

This loss was 1000% on coaching. The running game play calling was absolutely pathetic. Why the f*^^% is a 65 year old offensive coordinator calling Frost’s plays and not his own???

The onside kick was possibly the worst decision we’ve seen from the Frost regime , and that’s saying a lot. It’s the same story so far with some new staff. We have better athletes, they’re simply not put in a position to win.

CT delivered 2 turnovers, plus more that should have been. He wasn't the same in the second half.

A 65 year old OC is calling the plays because you have seen what happens when Frost calls the plays for the last four years.

The onside kick was Frosts brilliant decision .. and after he put his stamp on things, it was like things on offense started to panic and fall apart.

Word is, Whip and Frost are not on good terms.. Frost interferes and Whip just wants to do his job, that he was told he was in charge of, etc.

This is Frost not letting go of the reigns, in multiple ways and it cost the team again.

You have to get that dimwit out of the program.

 

[oldjar07]

CT delivered 2 turnovers, plus more that should have been. He wasn't the same in the second half.

A 65 year old OC is calling the plays because you have seen what happens when Frost calls the plays for the last four years.

The onside kick was Frosts brilliant decision .. and after he put his stamp on things, it was like things on offense started to panic and fall apart.

Word is, Whip and Frost are not on good terms.. Frost interferes and Whip just wants to do his job, that he was told he was in charge of, etc.

This is Frost not letting go of the reigns, in multiple ways and it cost the team again.

You have to get that dimwit out of the program.

Neither one of the turnovers was his fault. The ball hits the receiver's hands, it needs to be caught. Not only did that not happen twice on the turnovers, but we had a pathetic number of drops as well.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

CT delivered 2 turnovers, plus more that should have been. He wasn't the same in the second half.

A 65 year old OC is calling the plays because you have seen what happens when Frost calls the plays for the last four years.

The onside kick was Frosts brilliant decision .. and after he put his stamp on things, it was like things on offense started to panic and fall apart.

Word is, Whip and Frost are not on good terms.. Frost interferes and Whip just wants to do his job, that he was told he was in charge of, etc.

This is Frost not letting go of the reigns, in multiple ways and it cost the team again.

You have to get that dimwit out of the program.

If what you suggest about Whip and Frost is correct, the remedy is a sit-down among them and Trev.

Presumably, the agreed upon responsibilities of what role each would have, would have been fully discussed prior to Whip's signing of contract, in conjunction with Frost's financial demotion, and Trev signing off.

I have to believe Trev is very clear WHAT those decisions were and what the enforcement element is.

Would be no point in having an unworkable, season long issue as may have happened.

The hiring Whip as THE OC is very logical after years of doing so, conversely, the idea of Frost acting in the capacity of CEO remains laughable and apparently untenable for Frost.

A match made in hell.

 

[braves3]

If you want to run the qb at all bring in smothers short yardage and goalline. Thompson is more accurate than martinez. At least one of those ints is on the receiver. Thompson is slow.

 

[NikkiSixx_rivals269993]

Neither one of the turnovers was his fault. The ball hits the receiver's hands, it needs to be caught. Not only did that not happen twice on the turnovers, but we had a pathetic number of drops as well.

to be fair CT was rushing things, throwing way too hard and behind his receivers, but they also didn't have the starting receivers in there at times at the end. One guy hadn't been targeted all game, goes in and gets thrown to, and results in a pick.. I forget the wideout at the moment, but I'm thinking, he hasn't been in or thrown to all game, yet you put him in that spot now? The whole offense got discombobulated after that kick.

 

[meo1960]

Didn't think CT played bad at all. Definitely better in first half, made a couple bad throws in second half. Interceptions were on the receivers, not on CT imo. Thought Whipple called a fairly good game, don't really care for our run game but it is what it is.

We had a run game?

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

to be fair CT was rushing things, throwing way too hard and behind his receivers, but they also didn't have the starting receivers in there at times at the end. One guy hadn't been targeted all game, goes in and gets thrown to, and results in a pick.. I forget the wideout at the moment, but I'm thinking, he hasn't been in or thrown to all game, yet you put him in that spot now? The whole offense got discombobulated after that kick.

Yes and yes on the ball being thrown too hard and behind the receivers at times.

This is such a poor *** coached team we have to be at the of the road for Frost.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

to be fair CT was rushing things, throwing way too hard and behind his receivers, but they also didn't have the starting receivers in there at times at the end. One guy hadn't been targeted all game, goes in and gets thrown to, and results in a pick.. I forget the wideout at the moment, but I'm thinking, he hasn't been in or thrown to all game, yet you put him in that spot now? The whole offense got discombobulated after that kick.

Last 6 possessions, punt, punt, int, punt, punt, int. Nice rhythm.

 

[SuperBigFan]

If you want to run the qb at all bring in smothers short yardage and goalline. Thompson is more accurate than martinez. At least one of those ints is on the receiver. Thompson is slow.

Yep, dude can't run at all.

 

[king_kong_]

to be fair CT was rushing things, throwing way too hard and behind his receivers, but they also didn't have the starting receivers in there at times at the end. One guy hadn't been targeted all game, goes in and gets thrown to, and results in a pick.. I forget the wideout at the moment, but I'm thinking, he hasn't been in or thrown to all game, yet you put him in that spot now? The whole offense got discombobulated after that kick.

Mickey Joseph did a piss poor job getting his guys ready

he appears to be completely full of ****

 

[JabroniBlvd]

1. Oliver Martin barely even looked for the ball and didn't attack the ball at all....he did this last year as well.

2. Wyatt Liewer didn't play all game until the most crucial time. He should be playing at Wayne State. Hit him in the hands

 

[BleedRed78]

Neither one of the turnovers was his fault. The ball hits the receiver's hands, it needs to be caught. Not only did that not happen twice on the turnovers, but we had a pathetic number of drops as well.

Idk why we had 4th string walk-on receivers in the game when it mattered most.

Probably the other stamp of frost on the game.

 

[king_kong_]

If you want to run the qb at all bring in smothers short yardage and goalline. Thompson is more accurate than martinez. At least one of those ints is on the receiver. Thompson is slow.

Nobody wants the QB run game

a running quarterback hasn’t won anything since Cam Newton was in school

 

[Scat_Back]

CT delivered 2 turnovers, plus more that should have been. He wasn't the same in the second half.

A 65 year old OC is calling the plays because you have seen what happens when Frost calls the plays for the last four years.

The onside kick was Frosts brilliant decision .. and after he put his stamp on things, it was like things on offense started to panic and fall apart.

Word is, Whip and Frost are not on good terms.. Frost interferes and Whip just wants to do his job, that he was told he was in charge of, etc.

This is Frost not letting go of the reigns, in multiple ways and it cost the team again.

You have to get that dimwit out of the program.

CT didn’t deliver any turnovers. Those were the receivers who dropped his passes off of their faces. Yea, the second half he missed 2 or 3 throws compared to the first half where he played flawless but that may be the best losing effort I’ve ever seen from a QB.

You misunderstood what I meant about Whipple. He should be calling plays, and they should be his own plays, not Frost’s. Whip even said there was going to be communication issues with that. You didn’t see it in the passing game because Casey had options and picked apart the field extremely well but the running playbook was disastrously neutered and was definitely one thing that cost us the game.

Ultimately we are in agreeance. Frost is clearly the cancer and he needs to go. We’ve let him try it much longer than Mike Riley and it has been somehow even worse than smilin’ Bob.

 

[JabroniBlvd]

Nobody wants the QB run game

a running quarterback hasn’t won anything since Cam Newton was in school

to be technical Barrett rushed for over 900 yards and 11 TD in 2014 when Ohio St won the natty

 

[BuckysBoys1]

to be fair CT was rushing things, throwing way too hard and behind his receivers, but they also didn't have the starting receivers in there at times at the end. One guy hadn't been targeted all game, goes in and gets thrown to, and results in a pick.. I forget the wideout at the moment, but I'm thinking, he hasn't been in or thrown to all game, yet you put him in that spot now? The whole offense got discombobulated after that kick.

I've never understood why coaches do this. The 3 receivers who start the game are starting because they are your 3 best receiver. All 3 should be playing on the final and most important possession. However, on Saturday the starting TE was injured, and #49 has bricks for hands so they opted to go with 4 receivers. My concern is that they think #85 Liewer is our 4th receiver. Huh

 

[tmcats]

Neither one of the turnovers was his fault. The ball hits the receiver's hands, it needs to be caught. Not only did that not happen twice on the turnovers, but we had a pathetic number of drops as well.

The interceptions were either high or behind the receiver(s), both QB errors. Plus, he missed badly on some open throws. His second half was the antithesis of the first, when he was excellent, but untouched.

CT has always been really good in a clean pocket. Same at Texas. So, his play going forward will depend on how well his line blocks. Clearly, he can chuck it. Always has.

 

[NikkiSixx_rivals269993]

1. Oliver Martin barely even looked for the ball and didn't attack the ball at all....he did this last year as well.

2. Wyatt Liewer didn't play all game until the most crucial time. He should be playing at Wayne State. Hit him in the hands

It was Oliver Martin (#89) who was targeted on that pick near the end. He didn't have any receiving stats for the game, so I'm inclined to think they were throwing guys in to give them reps to keep guys happy, but it resulted in a cold receiver trying to catch a hot pass, when we needed to actually score points to win the game.

@king_kong_ you are right about Mickey Joseph, especially in that scenario. On the surface, that seems like bad player management when you are trying to win a game at the end.

Mike Riley used to pull crap like that.. trying to beat Michigan State with less than a minute left and Westerkamp is standing on the sideline. like wtf?