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I would hope we made a run for Cameron Ward, but he’s never been mentioned by anyone ‘in the know’ as far as I know. My guess is that means he’s not interested in us. If we never pursued him, shame on us.
I think everyone is super higher on this kid but I don't buy the hype. He plays in one of the worse FCS conferences that has you playing each team twice this season.. easy to put up gaudy numbers when your competition is trash and you throw the ball 600 times a year.. Idk prove me wrong I guess.
 

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You don’t know if they haven’t been in touch..Purdy announced that he was offered and a texass site has indicated that Nebraska has reached out that‘s all’s we know now…
It’s certainly possible we’ve been in contact. Several other names/targets tend to usually get leaked, and it’s just been quiet with him.

He’s reportedly Ole Miss’ primary target, and I’m sure there’s other suitors.
We unfortunately tend to be a second tier option for top tier targets.
 

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I think everyone is super higher on this kid but I don't buy the hype. He plays in one of the worse FCS conferences that has you playing each team twice this season.. easy to put up gaudy numbers when your competition is trash and you throw the ball 600 times a year.. Idk prove me wrong I guess.
I agree there’s no guarantee to how he will pan out, but top FCS talent is often capable of transitioning well. I’ve not watched his film, but regardless of competition, it’s about what he does with the ball in his hands (throw on time, on target, make reads). He’s also playing with FCS OL and FCS WR.
FCS Toure was our best WR, and would have done more with better OL/QB.

QB Bailey Zappe was similar last year coming from FCS and went to lowly Western Kentucky, but he still set FBS record for TD throws.
I like to say 50% of that type of output is a big upgrade for us.
Ward threw 47 / 2 = 23.5 TDs in FBS and it’s a great season for a Nebraska QB.
Not to be taken too literally.
If I had to bet on a Ward or a Smothers, I’d pick Ward easily.
 

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I agree there’s no guarantee to how he will pan out, but top FCS talent is often capable of transitioning well. I’ve not watched his film, but regardless of competition, it’s about what he does with the ball in his hands (throw on time, on target, make reads). He’s also playing with FCS OL and FCS WR.
FCS Toure was our best WR, and would have done more with better OL/QB.

QB Bailey Zappe was similar last year coming from FCS and went to lowly Western Kentucky, but he still set FBS record for TD throws.
I like to say 50% of that type of output is a big upgrade for us.
Ward threw 47 / 2 = 23.5 TDs in FBS and it’s a great season for a Nebraska QB.
Not to be taken too literally.
If I had to bet on a Ward or a Smothers, I’d pick Ward easily.
That’s fair to think and assume.. he could be amazing at this level and I could be completely wrong, but not a single person on this board knew who this guy was before he entered the portal, now he’s our guy “we gotta get”.. those same people will trash Thompson for playing “weak Big 12 defenses” but think an FCS QB gonna be our hero.. idk just not buying the hype
 

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I agree there’s no guarantee to how he will pan out, but top FCS talent is often capable of transitioning well. I’ve not watched his film, but regardless of competition, it’s about what he does with the ball in his hands (throw on time, on target, make reads). He’s also playing with FCS OL and FCS WR.
FCS Toure was our best WR, and would have done more with better OL/QB.

QB Bailey Zappe was similar last year coming from FCS and went to lowly Western Kentucky, but he still set FBS record for TD throws.
I like to say 50% of that type of output is a big upgrade for us.
Ward threw 47 / 2 = 23.5 TDs in FBS and it’s a great season for a Nebraska QB.
Not to be taken too literally.
If I had to bet on a Ward or a Smothers, I’d pick Ward easily.
And the fact you picked a guy you haven’t watched tape on over smothers speaks volumes for dumb our fan base is 😂 I see why the rest of country laughs at us
 

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That’s fair to think and assume.. he could be amazing at this level and I could be completely wrong, but not a single person on this board knew who this guy was before he entered the portal, now he’s our guy “we gotta get”.. those same people will trash Thompson for playing “weak Big 12 defenses” but think an FCS QB gonna be our hero.. idk just not buying the hype
I would be very happy with Casey Thompson.
 

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And the fact you picked a guy you haven’t watched tape on over smothers speaks volumes for dumb our fan base is 😂 I see why the rest of country laughs at us
71 passing TDs and 14 INTs in two years tells me enough vs the player who could not win the job against our starter with 18 passing TDs and 13 INTs in two years.
Sure all things are not equal, but Smothers has proven nothing at the college level (0 passing TDs), so I’d easily put my money on Mr. 71 TDs.

I’m not even writing off Smothers potential. I’m all about QB competition. But hedging a bet using the fate of the program on a guy like Smothers seems to be the more foolish move.

Ward was rated #1 available QB prospect on 247, well above a guy like Purdy who has a similar status to Smothers.
 

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71 passing TDs and 14 INTs in two years tells me enough vs the player who could not win the job against our starter with 18 passing TDs and 13 INTs in two years.
Sure all things are not equal, but Smothers has proven nothing at the college level (0 passing TDs), so I’d easily put my money on Mr. 71 TDs.

I’m not even writing off Smothers potential. I’m all about QB competition. But hedging a bet using the fate of the program on a guy like Smothers seems to be the more foolish move.

Ward was rated #1 available QB prospect on 247, well above a guy like Purdy who has a similar status to Smothers.

He was #2 behind Ewers. But I agree that it is pretty easy to watch a kid against FCS competition and determine how he will do against P5 competition. Much less of a guessing game than HS kids and unknowns.
 

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71 passing TDs and 14 INTs in two years tells me enough vs the player who could not win the job against our starter with 18 passing TDs and 13 INTs in two years.
Sure all things are not equal, but Smothers has proven nothing at the college level (0 passing TDs), so I’d easily put my money on Mr. 71 TDs.

I’m not even writing off Smothers potential. I’m all about QB competition. But hedging a bet using the fate of the program on a guy like Smothers seems to be the more foolish move.
Dude the FCS is nowhere near power 5 football.. The FCS has guys that put those numbers up every year. Every ******* year… and how many of them go to power 5 schools and do well? Or even the NFL?? There are a handful of examples, I know, you don’t need to list them...

Smothers has had zero opportunity to prove anything (not saying he is the guy) but you hedge a bet on a guy in the one of the weakest FCS conferences. Come on man
 

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Dude the FCS is nowhere near power 5 football.. The FCS has guys that put those numbers up every year. Every ****ing year… and how many of them go to power 5 schools and do well? Or even the NFL?? There are a handful of examples, I know, you don’t need to list them...

Smothers has had zero opportunity to prove anything (not saying he is the guy) but you hedge a bet on a guy in the one of the weakest FCS conferences. Come on man
We would all want someone more proven at P5 than Ward, but our options are limited as we’re not the beacon of success for amazing QB transfers to want to join our shipwreck.
Plenty of other schools would be more attractive to the top (proven) talent.
 

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Dude the FCS is nowhere near power 5 football.. The FCS has guys that put those numbers up every year. Every ****ing year… and how many of them go to power 5 schools and do well? Or even the NFL?? There are a handful of examples, I know, you don’t need to list them...

Smothers has had zero opportunity to prove anything (not saying he is the guy) but you hedge a bet on a guy in the one of the weakest FCS conferences. Come on man

Some FCS dude from Montana was pretty good for us this year.
 

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Some FCS dude from Montana was pretty good for us this year.
Yea I know I’m not an idiot I know guys have done well from FCS … I’m talking QBs.. show me examples of FCS guys that have transferred as QBs to the FBS power 5 level that have done well. Again not saying this guy won’t. But everyone on his jock like he’s the coming of Jesus Like I said not a single one of you knew who he was before he entered the portal
 

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Yea I know I’m not an idiot I know guys have done well from FCS … I’m talking QBs.. show me examples of FCS guys that have transferred as QBs to the FBS power 5 level that have done well. Again not saying this guy won’t. But everyone on his jock like he’s the coming of Jesus Like I said not a single one of you knew who he was before he entered the portal

There are 8 starting QBs in he NFL right now that did not play football for a P5 team. That is 1/4th of the entire league.
 

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Why does everyone keep point to Thompson @ 5-7. Didn’t Card start in losses to Arkansas, Iowa State, & West Virginia?
 

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There are 8 starting QBs in he NFL right now that did not play football for a P5 team. That is 1/4th of the entire league.
Great observation.. never said that doesn’t happen or that he won’t be a good QB… asked about QBs going from FCS to P5 and succeeding
 

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There are 8 starting QBs in he NFL right now that did not play football for a P5 team. That is 1/4th of the entire league.

And the only one you will definitely see in the playoffs is Josh Allen. Lamar might make it too but the next 6 are the bottom NFL QBs.

The best QBs in the NFL played in the P5
 

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And the only one you will definitely see in the playoffs is Josh Allen. Lamar might make it too but the next 6 are the bottom NFL QBs.

The best QBs in the NFL played in the P5
Lamar played P5 tho.
Allen-Wyoming. Playoffs
Carr. Fresno. Gonna get benched and traded
Garropolo. Some directional Illinois school. Will be traded eventually to have his FCS backup behind him suck it up
Wentz North Dakota state. Had a good year with eagles got hurt and now.. yeaa
Zach wilson. bYu. Sucks and was overrated
Heinke **. Only starting cuz Injury (even tho fitz was FCs but he’s been playing for what seems like 15 years)
 

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Lamar played P5 tho.
Allen-Wyoming. Playoffs
Carr. Fresno. Gonna get benched and traded
Garropolo. Some directional Illinois school. Will be traded eventually to have his FCS backup behind him suck it up
Wentz North Dakota state. Had a good year with eagles got hurt and now.. yeaa
Zach wilson. bYu. Sucks and was overrated
Heinke **. Only starting cuz Injury (even tho fitz was FCs but he’s been playing for what seems like 15 years)
Good call. Why do I always forget Louisville is ACC.

So yeah, 1 good QB from none P5 and a former good one in Big Ben

People also ignore the fact that there are way more none P5 schools then P5 schools so from a totals perspective, if it wasn’t that big of a deal, mathematically there should be way more non P5 QBs
 

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Lamar played P5 tho.
Allen-Wyoming. Playoffs
Carr. Fresno. Gonna get benched and traded
Garropolo. Some directional Illinois school. Will be traded eventually to have his FCS backup behind him suck it up
Wentz North Dakota state. Had a good year with eagles got hurt and now.. yeaa
Zach wilson. bYu. Sucks and was overrated
Heinke **. Only starting cuz Injury (even tho fitz was FCs but he’s been playing for what seems like 15 years)

Big Ben?
 

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Dude was 5-7 against a schedule much kinder than NU’s. He is highly likely to not be an upgrade from Martinez. And is far from a lock to start over Smothers, should he transfer.
Crazy Talk, he threw 24 TDS this season,Martinez threw 24 tds over the last THREE years. 5-7, well the guy doesn’t play defense too. Their defense was abysmal, led the team on several game winning drives, only for defense to get scored on in a min and change. The big 10 has some good teams and some bad ones as well. martinez didn’t kill against the bad teams either.
 

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And the only one you will definitely see in the playoffs is Josh Allen. Lamar might make it too but the next 6 are the bottom NFL QBs.

The best QBs in the NFL played in the P5

And those guys were:

3* Mahomes - Texas Tech - Chiefs
3* Brady - Michigan - Bucs
4* Rodgers - California - Packers
5* Murray - aTm/OU - Cardinals
4* Jackson - Louisville - Ravens
3* Burrow - tOSU/LSU - Bengals
3* Tannehill - aTm - Titans
0* Wentz - NDSt - Colts
3* Herbert - Oregon - Chargers
4* Prescott - Miss St - Cowboys
3* Hurts - Bama/OU - Eagles
5* Stafford - Georgia - Rams

What I see other than Stafford is a bunch of dudes that earned the **** out of where they are right now. Most were doubted throughout, and Tannehill even played WR in college to make way for the 'better' QB, and 3 got pushed out from their original team.

Only Murray and Stafford were 'must have' recruits.
 

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And those guys were:

3* Mahomes - Texas Tech - Chiefs
3* Brady - Michigan - Bucs
4* Rodgers - California - Packers
5* Murray - aTm/OU - Cardinals
4* Jackson - Louisville - Ravens
3* Burrow - tOSU/LSU - Bengals
3* Tannehill - aTm - Titans
0* Wentz - NDSt - Colts
3* Herbert - Oregon - Chargers
4* Prescott - Miss St - Cowboys
3* Hurts - Bama/OU - Eagles
5* Stafford - Georgia - Rams

What I see other than Stafford is a bunch of dudes that earned the **** out of where they are right now. Most were doubted throughout, and Tannehill even played WR in college to make way for the 'better' QB, and 3 got pushed out from their original team.

Only Murray and Stafford were 'must have' recruits.

Oh since you’re Non P5 claim didn’t hold too much water, we are on to “star rankings”

Well most rated Burrow a 4 start. He had a composite 4 star.

And Brady didn’t have a star ranking. He was before rivals, 247, etc… even before scout. Don’t need to lie to be cool

“And those guys” still recruited by P5 schools

Also note Nebraska badly wanted Lamar Jackson.
 
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Oh since you’re Non P5 claim didn’t hold too much water, we are on to “star rankings”

Well most rated Burrow a 4 start. He had a composite 4 star.

And Brady didn’t have a star ranking. He was before rivals, 247, etc… even before scout. Don’t need to lie to be cool

“And those guys” still recruited by P5 schools

8 non-P5 guys start in the NFL.

17 of the other 24 starters were 3*s or less. Only 2 guys were 5*s.
 

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You must have not watched the Liberty bowl just now cause he torched the team that just beat up the powerful SEC west school
so his wins were against Rice, and the bottom feeders of the big 12. (Texas Tech & TCU) with a sort of quality win against Kansas State..

if he was so good, I wonder why Texas went looking for 2 more QB's?
 

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8 non-P5 guys start in the NFL.

17 of the other 24 starters were 3*s or less. Only 2 guys were 5*s.
What the hell are you smoking? Trevor Lawrence was a 5 star. Tua was a 5 star on 247 composite & ESPN, Justin Fields 5 Star, David Mills 5 Star, Jamies Winston (the real starter in NOLA) 5 Star.

Seriously can you count

There’s more true NFL starting QBs that were 5 Stars then there are non P5 true NFL starters

Edit: Add Cam Newton was a 5 star. Forgot he’s back at starter. Jeez I don’t think you have a handle on this
 
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so his wins were against Rice, and the bottom feeders of the big 12. (Texas Tech & TCU) with a sort of quality win against Kansas State..

if he was so good, I wonder why Texas went looking for 2 more QB's?

When has Sarkisian ever really coached a duel threat? Jake Locker maybe? That’s not really his preference. Remember Hudson Card was the #2 QB in the 2020 class and Steves already over him.
 
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Why does everyone keep point to Thompson @ 5-7. Didn’t Card start in losses to Arkansas, Iowa State, & West Virginia?
Thompson started the Iowa State game, but his thumb was in bad shape at that point in the season. He could barely grip the football with his swollen throwing hand thumb, coupled with a cold night in Ames, it made for a poor showing.

I think Thompson is a very good QB, when he's healthy and has some time to throw the football. Just watch what he did to Colorado in last year's Alamo Bowl game (second half) and the first half against Oklahoma this year.
 

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I think Thompson is a very good QB, when he's healthy and has some time to throw the football. Just watch what he did to Colorado in last year's Alamo Bowl game (second half) and the first half against Oklahoma this year.
Sounds inconsistent to me.
 
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I agree there’s no guarantee to how he will pan out, but top FCS talent is often capable of transitioning well. I’ve not watched his film, but regardless of competition, it’s about what he does with the ball in his hands (throw on time, on target, make reads). He’s also playing with FCS OL and FCS WR.
FCS Toure was our best WR, and would have done more with better OL/QB.

QB Bailey Zappe was similar last year coming from FCS and went to lowly Western Kentucky, but he still set FBS record for TD throws.
I like to say 50% of that type of output is a big upgrade for us.
Ward threw 47 / 2 = 23.5 TDs in FBS and it’s a great season for a Nebraska QB.
Not to be taken too literally.
If I had to bet on a Ward or a Smothers, I’d pick Ward easily.
Ward is my first choice. I think he has the it factor
 

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I think there was one dude that thought that was a good idea and about everyone else was like "WTF?"

Kind of like when Mike Riley was named head coach here.
Naw, I made a kind of "meh" comment about him and was met with a flurry of outraged posts. There was a whole thread about how great he is because some list somewhere had him rated as a top 5 qb transfer.