Case for Power Option
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100% + on the money sir. It's sad that so many NU fans simply couldn't care less about results on the field.
How many times do I need to specifically say that both I and Scott Frost have a desire for NU to have a very good running game?
Ok, you've sold me.
Identity = Good
Scott's offense = Soft
Scott Frost = Weak! Sad!
Solution = Running the option from under center instead of from the shotgun
Instead of running the plays where the QB gets the ball and has the choice to give to an RB, keep it, or do something else, they should run the plays where the QB gets the ball and has the choice to give to an RB, keep it, or do something else!
Well, I wouldn't have guessed that by your previous post. But so......I stand most humbly corrected sir! Sorry Beav.....glad to hear it!
Relax, man. Those are your words, not mine.
Being "good" is not an identity. C'mon.
The person I tried convincing of that got mad, and then tried changing the subject....and then started in with the insults. Very telling when that happens.
Thank you for the civility.
Hard to argue with such a solid, well thought-out, fact-laden point.
I hope you're catching the sarcasm.
Another one.....no argument based on any intelligent thought.
Insults are the last refuge of the individual with no intelligent thoughts.
Since you know it all and are so intellectually superior to me, here it is....another poster and I were discussing Solich. He didn't like what I was saying, but couldn't refute it either, so he changed topics. Let's see if you can do any better without needing to change the topic or going into insults....
What has Nebraska gained in all these years by firing Solich?
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There's no arguing that you're stupid, it's a fact. It is amusing how you infuse your usual dogma when you can't get things to go your way, your never ending quest to try and keep people on your point, or argue excessively that you're correct and that because some don't agree with your constant attempts to prove without a doubt you're right, you border a bit on the psychotic end of things, but you know that already, don't you?
I don't expect people to agree with me at all....
All I'm saying is that people that have to resort to insults and name calling usually do so when they run out of intelligent thought....as you just did.
I asked you a very fair, direct question, and one that should be easy to answer if I'm so wrong......and what I got back is "stupid" and "psychotic". Perfect illustration.
Oh, now you go into the edit room and add some Solich, how refreshing. I didn't broach the subject of Solich with you, so what's the point of it? It doesn't matter in the Nebraska of 2019, Solich is long gone, and what's done is done.
I will say for the record that I for one was not in favor of Frank getting let go, but he probably would have been shown the door after 2004, the talent that was there might have gotten a .500 season, but without a good QB (something that wasn't there that year) it would have been a struggle for him at best, he would have been fired just the same.
That's right, it is a perfect illustration of your personality. Maybe if you'd stop coming off as some know it all, always right individual, someone who flies too easily off the handle, you might gain some respect from others and myself. Think you can do that?
I asked what Nebraska has gained since firing Solich. How is asking a simple question coming off like a "know it all"?
I also pointed out that Nebraska's last conference title and NC game appearance were under Solich's tenure. If that information is inaccurate, feel free to correct me.
And....I'm not the one calling people names, so I don't get how it is that I'm the one flying off the handle.
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I have read not many of your posts but so far I find you thoughtful and gentlemanly.
I appreciate that.....
Full disclosure....I'm a CU (growing up...saw them go from 1-10 when I was in 6th grade to 11-1-1 as a senior in HS) and Wisconsin (adult/Big 10) fan that went to college in Nebraska and has lived here for the better part of the last 22 years. I respect Husker history and what they've done....and, since I live here, I am interested in how they do and what people think about it....and I'd love it if both CU and Nebraska were once again good at the same time.
To me, at least when it comes to respectful, intelligent posters, being on here is far more intellectually stimulating that just hanging out on a CU or Wisconsin board, and I enjoy the banter with such folks.
Didn't go into the edit room at all. I went rounds with another poster on that topic prior to the change of topic and the insults when he ran out of things to say....and then you chimed in on me. That's why I referenced Solich.
I appreciate your honesty about your opinion on him being fired.
Denial is a river flowing through your mind. Up until a few comments ago, you never directly asked me about Solich, you were probably asking others. Your argumentative to near nauseating levels, you push and push your narrative of being right to a point of psychotic, you just don't see it because you refuse to.
What has Nebraska gained since firing Solich? Nothing? Is that the answer that has evaded you? What did cu gain from firing Gary Barnett? Nothing?
Nebraska has an overall winning record since Frank was let go, albeit by a slim margin, cu does not, however. Seems both have gained nothing since their firing. But there's no guarantee that Solich would have been more successful at Nebraska say, 6 more years after his first 6 seasons, that would be mere speculation to cast that conjecture.
But it doesn't matter now, those wheels were set in motion and the Nebraska of today has a long way to go to get back to years ago success.
I'm a native New Yorker who as a 13 year old watched Nebraska beat LSU in the 1971 Orange and have been a fan ever since.
CU and Nebraska good again at the same time … I agree.
That's what I was asking sinomatic, and he couldn't answer. Then, at some point, you felt the need to jump in and go into insults for no real reason. If you're going to do that, then expect to have the topic of conversation between myself and whoever it is projected onto you as well.
And you really should stop acting like I'm the only one that argues on here. Isn't that pretty much what about 95% of the people on here do?
So, given that I don't act like I'm right about everything, or fly off the handle and call people names, and don't argue anymore than anyone else, it seems to me that the main reason you don't like me is that I'm a CU/ Wisconsin guy (and one that hasn't said one word that could be seen as bragging or talking trash, no less). If that's the case, then be a man and say so, instead of making up a bunch of BS reasons.
1971....Good time to become a Husker guy....hopefully you caught the Game of the Century the next season.....
The 1971 season was probably the toughest slate the Buffs ever faced. Played #9 LSU, #6 Ohio State, #2 Oklahoma, and #1 Nebraska....all on the road. Went 2-2 among those 4 games. I think the old UPI poll had CU at #3 at the end of the season, since their only losses were to Oklahoma and Nebraska.
Thanks again!
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Learn to read, go back again and read what I said. I didn't mention anything about cu or wisky, so who's making assertions or coming up with BS?
You've been given the explanation, seems you have a very difficult time gathering that information and processing it. Not much I can do about that.
I will agree that you don't brag or trash talk, but let me add condescending to the dialogue, it represents you well.
"I will agree that you don't brag or trash talk, but let me add condescending to the dialogue, it represents you well."
The BS would be the assertion that I fly off the handle, think that I am a know-it-all, etc.
Not sure how I am condescending, but I'm guessing you're not going to convince me that I am, and I'm not going to convince you that I'm not.
I don't have to convince you of anything, you are what you are. Didn't you have a point to make about Solich?
Have a nice night.I don't have to convince you of anything, you are what you are. Didn't you have a point to make about Solich?
And yet you claim you're not a troll from another school but you use the word THEY. Hmmm. Go back to you own desolate board please.
He signed linebackers this class that will be able to help a 3-4 work against power running teams. The roster right now is probably better suited to run a 4-3 BUT that isn't long term what they want to do so they're ripping the bandaid off and teaching the young guys from the start what they want. We'll see the reward from that probably by 2021.
Frost is a good coach. There’s a 90% certainty that we wouldn’t replace him with a better coach. We have to give him time! He’s still young. Let him learn and adjust. Even with a bad team this year, we still should make a bowl.
Problem with you is you: You brush off reasons as if they aren't put forward. He was fired for a CHANCE at a coach who could go up the hill rocks and all. Solich has not proven, as a HEAD COACH, at any level, to be able to win a championship. There was no guarantee that he doesn't win one at Nebraska, and there was no guarantee that he would either, in fact it was trending the other way. The decline was a trend that a CEO, of any organisation, might not ignore, and I would bet, would not ignore.
I don't gain a damn thing, I didn't pull the trigger, but I can understand why it was done. And the results of the man who was replaced since then, has shown no one that it was absolutely a bad decision. However, I would argue the timing was not good.
But here's the skinny on the whole Solich thing:
IT DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE.
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Well....you brush off things you don't agree with as well....so how is what I do any worse than what most people, including you, do on this forum?
So, your benchmark is being able to win a championship. What championship has Frost proven to be able to win? I hope you have something better than a conference championship, since, you know, Solich won one of those as well.
My question is this...are you willing to go through coaches every 4-7 years (4 years if they weren't a former Husker player, 7 years if they were) to find someone that "get's you there"? Has it ever dawned on you that the Solich or Pelini years might be as good as it's going to be?
As I said before...Minnesota was once a big time power, with 5 national championships. It's been almost 60 years since their last NC, and 52 seasons since their last conference title. Nebraska is roughly 1/3 to over 1/3 of the way there on both accounts.
Here's why I think he's overrated....
UCF wasn't in the tank as much as people want to believe. In the 3 seasons before the 0-12, they were 31-9. They had been winning conference titles and bowl games. His last UCF team is a 9-3 or 8-4 team in the Big 10 or SEC. World of difference between playing an SEC or Big 10 schedule every week and having a month to prepare for an Auburn team that didn't want to be in the Peach Bowl.
There was a thread a little while back on the subject of teams Husker fans want to see lose. UCF was one of those. To me, that sounds like they want UCF to lose so people can say, "see, look at what happened to UCF when Frost left...he must be a great coach".
I'm sorry...but if Nebraska is no better than 6-6 after year 4 or 5, when he no longer has any of the Riley players that so many deride, I think it will be time to face facts.
Hey if the point of you on here is to tell people that Nebraska is going to suck from here on out, you've said it.
But all you did was set up an argument from the beginning.
I am not the university, and you're a CU fan. It doesn't matter what "we" do, whatever that means, "we" show up to games. "We", don't make executive decisions regarding the football staff at the University of Nebraska. If "I", or "we" did, there would have never been a Mike Riley experience.
The benchmark has always been CHAMPIONSHIPS at the University of Nebraska regarding football. As soon as that changes, "we'll" let you know so you can save "us" a spot next to you on that bench.
I didn't say that Nebraska is going to suck from here on out. I just said that 9-10 wins a year might be the best it gets from here on out (if Solich and Pelini were worse that that, aside from one 7-7 season, feel free to correct me). And no...I don't think Nebraska will get as low as Minnesota in terms of won/loss records. I also asked very respectfully if you were willing to change coaches every 4-7 years if they are not "getting you there"....and you still haven't answered.
Two things regarding your last paragraph:
1) That arrogance might be the reason some Husker fans get treated like garbage in Boulder. That ever occur to you? I have yet to hear an OU, K-State or KU fan complain about how they were treated in Boulder.
2) I may have gotten there first, but considering that neither CU nor Nebraska has been relevant on the national scene for over 20 years, I'd say you've been sitting right there next to me on that bench for quite some time.....never mind that I don't pretend CU is something that they're not.
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