Carvin commits to UF
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I don’t think this is “no surprise,” the recruiting guys did not expect this. We could be in full melt down mode soon, especially if (as a 247 member posted per a Florida site) another recruit is ready to follow suit.
Yeahhh, the last few days have been tough on the class. This is a pretty normal amount for this to happen, but it still sucks. This is the downside to not going after anyone that may have committed to you at your previous stop, because it is not reciprocal.
You're response to a man committing to another school is SOB? Might I suggest you take it less seriously?
So we lose Carvin, kicker, and Bishop over the weekend. That’s big. Go 17 yourself Mullen. I use to not care that you left, but now I’m glad you did you 17ing snake. I hope you get butt17ed out of Florida, back to the ****** northeast and into irrelevancy where you belong you piece of ****.
I don't blame the kids... and I don't even blame Mullen, his loyalty to us was always financial and best interest based both ways. That being said, <17> Scott Strickland! That prick is dead to me.
He's not going after Penn State commits for the same reason Mullen didn't go after Florida commits when he came: doesn't want to burn that bridge any for when PSU has a future coaching search.
Sounds more like he committed to Don. When Don in shown the door early, how happy will that commitment be?
Hard to find good juco O linemen. We are going to be THIN on the OL in a year or so. Mullen's roster management was head scratching, to say the least. That kind of **** is what will end up getting him canned at FL. Needlessly putting himself in a bind.
Shouldn't be that
big of a loss. If Hev and Mullen were after him, he obviously isn't that good.
big of a loss. If Hev and Mullen were after him, he obviously isn't that good.
The kids parents LOVE State. His Dad came to several games this year without his son. We're three hours from his house, instead of eleven.
He may have just gotten excited on his visit and succumbed to Hevesy's elite sales pitch. It happens.
He may well end up at Florida, but I don't think it's over yet.
Yall mfers chill out. 17ing pussies.
I’m saying son of a ***** because an OL we really need committed to Florida. Not callin anyone specifically an SOB. 17.
Ok. From this point forward I want to know the correct coaching etiquette. I don't want someone like Mullen to take this job, but say he will not touch Florida recruits, but when he leaves here to go back to Florida, it is now OK to do so since HE had the relationship with the recruit not the school. Don't justify your poaching unless it works both ways. If JoeMo leaves us, I expect him NOT to touch a single recruit since he is not going after Penn State guys he has recruited. Make it one way or the other but not where State gets 17ed both ways!!!!
I disagree with that reasoning. Moorhead wants to win just as much as the next guy, and will take whoever he can get from whereever he can get them in order to do so. You really think if we go 11-1 next year and Franklin gets mired in some scandal that costs him his job, PSU won’t hire him because we plucked some random WR away from their recruiting class?
The real reasoning we aren’t plucking Penn State commits is that Penn State and MSU’s recruiting footprint don’t overlap at all. There is not likely anyone in their class that would ever consider coming here even in a best case scenario. That’s not the case with MSU / UF.
And back to the Mullen example....Chad Bumphis was very likely headed to UF until Mullen got our job. He had no interest in us whatsoever when Croom was here and was considered a UF lean. Then Mullen gets the job and suddenly we land him. It’s not the same thing as a commitment bolting, but Mullen still used it to his advantage and took a wanted prospect off UF’s board. So it does cut both ways.
Etiquette is apparently, if you leave a place as the HC you can screw them over until the cows come home BUT if you leave a place as an assistant to become a HC somewhere else you can't touch any recruits for fear of offending someone and having it held against you if you ever want to be considered for the HC job at the place you left. Don Mullins doesn't give a crap what he does to us or apparently what we think of him because he will never come back here again. Same deal with Chad Morris who is cherry picking SMU recruits at Arkansas but doesn't care because he will never go back to SMU. When Mullen came he didn't want to offend FL and Moorhead doing the same with PSU.
I never claim any inside knowledge, but in this case, I work with an individual that has a son that plays ball with Carvin. Supposedly, they are friends.
While he probably knows I am an MSU guy, he's a good guy and had no reason to ******** me. I jokingly teased him about making sure Carvin goes to MSU.
He seemed pretty confident he wasn't going to MSU. That was a month and a half ago. It wasn't that he didn't like MSU so much as that he seemed to have his heart set on Tenn.
I was hopeful that because of the dumpster fire, we were the obvious next choice. But, they changed coaches, so I really do expect him to end up there... not at Florida.
Since it was from the mouth of an indifferent observer, father of a teammate - it seemed honest, not recruit speak. "Nah, he ain't going to state". I hope I'm wrong, but I have not expected him since that brief converstation.
While he probably knows I am an MSU guy, he's a good guy and had no reason to ******** me. I jokingly teased him about making sure Carvin goes to MSU.
He seemed pretty confident he wasn't going to MSU. That was a month and a half ago. It wasn't that he didn't like MSU so much as that he seemed to have his heart set on Tenn.
I was hopeful that because of the dumpster fire, we were the obvious next choice. But, they changed coaches, so I really do expect him to end up there... not at Florida.
Since it was from the mouth of an indifferent observer, father of a teammate - it seemed honest, not recruit speak. "Nah, he ain't going to state". I hope I'm wrong, but I have not expected him since that brief converstation.
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It’s not the coaches that are the problem at TN. It’s TN that is the problem at TN. If he can’t see that then that is one less not so smart kid onnour roster
I think our guy wants his day in the sun with his teammates. Good guys playing catch up right now.
In the back of my mind I can’t help but wonder if that completely ridiculous, lackluster BYU crowd when Carvin took his official, may come back to bite us.
If you want kids to feel like MSU isn’t a step down, you have to show them it isn’t a step down.
Hope I’m wrong.
If you want kids to feel like MSU isn’t a step down, you have to show them it isn’t a step down.
Hope I’m wrong.
Here's an update from today. This kid will be a Bulldog.
https://twitter.com/jeromecarvin/status/940367025528033280
https://twitter.com/jeromecarvin/status/940367025528033280
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