Carey announcing Thursday

GonzoCat90

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You don't think a 5 year sample size is sufficient? Keep your head buried in the sand if you want but starting in 2015 is when (according to everyone- fans, media, etc...) when Cal started losing top guys and struggled to land the top tier talent he was bringing in previously.

Maybe top 5 shouldn't be the cutoff, I'm not sure. But, if you don't agree that Cal has missed on a crazy amount of top guys and hasn't landed the best of the best (which he himself said is what he does at UK) than I am not sure what to tell you.

5 years is more than plenty to form an opinion on.

So are you including '15, in which case there's KAT, Murray, Skal? Or is it after '15? Or does Murray not count because he's a reclass and KAT wasn't top 5 and suddenly it shows how terrible that entire argument is?

Cal "landed a top 5 player" with Skal, but KAT, Murray, Fox, Bam, etc. aren't?

And you're starting it "when everyone said Cal stared struggling" so like I said, cherrypicked data. Since 2015, Villanova is the greatest program of all time, Coach K hasn't been to the final four, but Duke is still dominating and embarrassing us and has taken over as the top program so Cal has to change everything.

No one is unaware of the recruiting situation. My issue is with your awful attempt at skewed data and claiming that there's any meaning in it.
 

ManitouDan_anon

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Your Cal negativity knows no bounds. No way that game was Cal's fault. Officiating was the cause of the outcome of that game, plain and simple. There is no argument for this.

The issue I have with this line of thinking is you have to believe there is a major conspriacy against UK , because more people believe we were screwed over VS UNCheat than Whisky ... so following that line of thought in our two biggest failures the past 5 years were not of our doing but simply referees, we were screwed out those games .. and while I think they do a pretty horrible job sometimes I dont think I accept the referee conspiracy theory as being the culprit . We did PLENTY on our own to cost us those two games . PLENTY .
 

TNCatfanforever

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I think K will pass us in all times wins and titles before he leaves....I am saying he stays another 5-6 years now that he owns the NCAA in recruiting...
 
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Ky_Bred_Cat

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Definitely a huge shift has occurred in the powers at be and influencers directing top players decisions. There's way more to this than just coaches and schools.
 
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GLR5555

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I think K will pass us in all times wins and titles before he leaves....I am saying he stays another 5-6 years now that he owns the NCAA in recruiting...
Not a chance. Only if we take a few seasons off, maybe. At best he gains 3-5 games per year on good years. Some hes lost games. He is not winning 3 more titles in 3 years either, not even this year.
 

LadyCaytIL

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Not a chance. Only if we take a few seasons off, maybe. At best he gains 3-5 games per year on good years. Some hes lost games. He is not winning 3 more titles in 3 years either, not even this year.

You swore he wouldnt win in 2015 also........ just like all the others that think with their hearts instead of their brains. never count Rat jesus out... he has team usa, espn, nike and billionaire duke boosters on his side.
 

LineSkiCat14

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They can have Stewart. Carey solves their front court problem, but not sure how Carey, Stewart and Bolden work together.You can't have two of them on the floor unless one has a mid-range game I'm unaware of.

There is no where NEAR enough talent left on the board for Duke to replace Cam, Zion, RJ and yes. Tre Jones (who I can't believe people actually think will stick around).
 

GLR5555

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You swore he wouldnt win in 2015 also........ just like all the others that think with their hearts instead of their brains. never count Rat jesus out... he has team usa, espn, nike and billionaire duke boosters on his side.
We all swore it in 2015. Then Frank Kaminsky happened. We dont lose that game, they dont win.
 
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LadyCaytIL

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They can have Stewart. Carey solves their front court problem, but not sure how Carey, Stewart and Bolden work together.You can't have two of them on the floor unless one has a mid-range game I'm unaware of.

There is no where NEAR enough talent left on the board for Duke to replace Cam, Zion, RJ and yes. Tre Jones (who I can't believe people actually think will stick around).

Yay... instead of being the most talented team of all time... they'll only be the most talented team in college basketball for next year.

Christmas monkeys you need to work on your posts that try and make everyone feel better for losing kids to Duke.
 
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BlueBlood66_rivals34314

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They can have Stewart. Carey solves their front court problem, but not sure how Carey, Stewart and Bolden work together.You can't have two of them on the floor unless one has a mid-range game I'm unaware of.

There is no where NEAR enough talent left on the board for Duke to replace Cam, Zion, RJ and yes. Tre Jones (who I can't believe people actually think will stick around).

There was never going to be enough to replace their current freshman.
 

LadyCaytIL

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We all swore it in 2015. Then Frank Kaminsky happened. We dont lose that game, they dont win.

1. we could of lost to duke........... unless you are god.. and you're not.. you cant say definitively we win or lose what would of been a title game vs Duke

2. Duke doesnt have to worry about us losing or winning in the tournament this year........ maybe we could keep it to 20 pt loss if we met them again...

3. I picked them to win. check my posts from 4 years ago if you can find them. I knew they won the title when they picked bob knight to be the special final four guest ... which was 2 weeks before the ncaat started. Sports are corrupt and I won good money spotting the clue that year on who was going to win the tournament
 
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LineSkiCat14

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Yay... instead of being the most talented team of all time... they'll only be the most talented team in college basketball for next year.

Christmas monkeys you need to work on your posts that try and make everyone feel better for losing kids to Duke.

Carey and Wendell Moore do not make the Blue Devils the most talented team in the nation. Kentucky still has 1. a better class and 2. more talent coming back.

Duke still needs a PG, a SG, another wing (one barely 20th ranked recruit won't cut it by himself), and an inside presence that can shoot.

Step away from the ledge.