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kl40504_rivals

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I am certainly not one to panic over this as none of us should. But just because you are citing the current statistics for the flu and comparing that with Covid 19, you should understand that those statistics are only rear looking and have no bearing on what it will look like. The flu is pervasive so we lose many people susceptible to the illness ever year. Mostly very young and elderly with weakened immune systems.
Coronavirus is 4 times more infectious (easier to transmit than flu) and the US estimate is that is 7-8 times more deadly. The fatality numbers are higher in other countries but the US assumes better medicine will have a positive impact. If it becomes as widespread as the flu do your own math.
All of what you see is to check the spread or to try to slow or stop the spread. If 10% of the US populations becomes infected over the next year we will lose nearly 500.000 people. That’s only 1.4% of the 10% and well below the current fatality rates for reasons stated.
Call it a hoax, but that’s only if you look at the odds of getting it. Even in the example the odds are still that you won’t get it or be one of the 500,000 but do you want to have someone you know or a family member in that group? That’s the reality of future statistics if we can’t slow it down or stop it. Buying time would make sense in order to find a cure, but citing a new outbreak with something established like the flu is not the right way to look at it either.
Just my 2 cents. I’ve stopped some travel, but I’m still going to the tournaments unless things change. Everyone just needs to make their own choices.
Keep living in your fantasy land. The main stream media has made such a big issue out of this to tank the economy. They will do anything to take down trump even if it means making the majority of us lose all our 401K funds. When warm weather comes the coronovirus will be in the rear view mirror and we will all be poorer for it.
 
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Keep living in your fantasy land. The main stream media has made such a big issue out of this to tank the economy. They will do anything to take down trump even if it means making the majority of us lose all our 401K funds. When warm weather comes the coronovirus will be in the rear view mirror and we will all be poorer for it.
I’m as conservative as anyone. I grew up in KY but I live in NYC and Miami. I have a pretty good read on what’s political and reality so I’ll let you believe what you want. This, like anything can be politicized on both sides, but certainly not a real advantage to anyone. Facts are facts. Denial is your choice. I hope it slows as it warms up. The spread in Brazil and Australia would say that’s not as likely as you hope. I guess the entire world is creating this because you think it hurts a candidate or fits an agenda. Of course the press over does it like they do everything, but that doesn’t mean it’s not real or the threat is a hoax. The truth is always in the middle, but you keep your head in the sand and hopefully this doesn’t impact anyone you care about.
 

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And what do they get at these games? Sugary snacks, soda, popcorn, and the like. These arenas are likely responsible for the death of at least 10,000 diabetics per year.

All joking aside, the OP is right on the money. Influenza has killed more people already than will even catch coronavirus. That's a fact.

This paranoia has "gone viral" and it's being driven by something akin to political correctness at this point.

And the 12,000 deaths from flu are in spite of a vaccine that is readily available. So far, there is no vaccine for Coronavirus, but even so, not nearly the deaths. Flu is a much larger threat. My Dad died from it, 3 years ago, this month.
 
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I swear some people don't get it. All those other medical issues have treatment, this one doesn't. It's serious when an entire country has shut down like Italy. Tell me the difference between China and our current administration first trying to pretend like it didn't exist or the idiot at the top acting like he knows if you have it still go to work, etc. Of course you can contact Jim Baker and order their holy water cure.

But, they don't need to be canceling anything. Wash hands frequently in public, the point of wearing a mask is to stop you from touching your own face, people should consider wearing gloves at public events, and prevention is possible.
Viruses don't have treatment. You can treat the symptoms but not the Virus itself. Covid-19 is no different, simply a new strain of a known virus. Stop drinking the Kool-aid. In the past 20 years weve had 10+ simlar scares, what happened with those? They are unheard of know. Panic isn't called for, nor is being overly cautious. Live your life like normal, wash your hands like you should anyway. Ever think maybe you don't get it?
 
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kl40504_rivals

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I’m as conservative as anyone. I grew up in KY but I live in NYC and Miami. I have a pretty good read on what’s political and reality so I’ll let you believe what you want. This, like anything can be politicized on both sides, but certainly not a real advantage to anyone. Facts are facts. Denial is your choice. I hope it slows as it warms up. The spread in Brazil and Australia would say that’s not as likely as you hope. I guess the entire world is creating this because you think it hurts a candidate or fits an agenda. Of course the press over does it like they do everything, but that doesn’t mean it’s not real or the threat is a hoax. The truth is always in the middle, but you keep your head in the sand and hopefully this doesn’t impact anyone you care about.
My head is not in the sand. I realize the virus is a threat and not a hoax. What is a hoax is how the main stream media is continuing to blow it up to tank the economy. They hate Trump and will do anything to take down Trump. Even the night show hosts are stating they wished the economy would tank so Trump will not get reelected. In other words we don't care if the average person loses all their savings as long as Trump doesn't get reelected. What a country. Screw everyone as long as I get what I want.
 
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My head is not in the sand. I realize the virus is a threat and not a hoax. What is a hoax is how the main stream media is continuing to blow it up to tank the economy. They hate Trump and will do anything to take down Trump. Even the night show hosts are stating they wished the economy would tank so Trump will not get reelected. In other words we don't care if the average person loses all their savings as long as Trump doesn't get reelected. What a country. Screw everyone as long as I get what I want.

Is the entire world in on the hoax? China locked down a city the size of LA for two months to tank the US economy and hurt Trump? Italy locked down their entire country, canceled all meetings and conferences and sports games and weddings and funerals to tank the US economy and hurt Trump? Stop being blinded by politics.
 

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1-Windmills cause cancer
2-Global warming is a hoax invented by the Chinese
3-The mainstream media is largely responsible for the worldwide Corona pandemic
4-Donald is smarter than his generals and knows more than the scientists, being a very stable genius and all.
5- We're in good hands!
 

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I am certainly not one to panic over this as none of us should. But just because you are citing the current statistics for the flu and comparing that with Covid 19, you should understand that those statistics are only rear looking and have no bearing on what it will look like. The flu is pervasive so we lose many people susceptible to the illness ever year. Mostly very young and elderly with weakened immune systems.
Coronavirus is 4 times more infectious (easier to transmit than flu) and the US estimate is that is 7-8 times more deadly. The fatality numbers are higher in other countries but the US assumes better medicine will have a positive impact. If it becomes as widespread as the flu do your own math.
All of what you see is to check the spread or to try to slow or stop the spread. If 10% of the US populations becomes infected over the next year we will lose nearly 500.000 people. That’s only 1.4% of the 10% and well below the current fatality rates for reasons stated.
Call it a hoax, but that’s only if you look at the odds of getting it. Even in the example the odds are still that you won’t get it or be one of the 500,000 but do you want to have someone you know or a family member in that group? That’s the reality of future statistics if we can’t slow it down or stop it. Buying time would make sense in order to find a cure, but citing a new outbreak with something established like the flu is not the right way to look at it either.
Just my 2 cents. I’ve stopped some travel, but I’m still going to the tournaments unless things change. Everyone just needs to make their own choices.
This thread and many others are filled with misinformation and mostly opinions instead of science. None of you know what the hell is going on and making very reckless statements. The virus may have similar mortality to the flu or maybe higher maybe less. The fact is that it does have s mortality rate and for seniors over 70 it’s very severe. Just like h1n1 when it first hit the virus cannot be allowed to run rampant through the country in the course of a few months or even a year. We must buy time. The result would be an overloaded healthcare system with the likelihood of an even higher mortality bc of limited resources. Unlike the flu there is no vaccine nor treatment which can lessen the impact on the elderly and ill healthed. There may not be a cure for the flu but there sure as hell are ways to lessen its affects and prevent it in 60-70% of those inoculated so the mortality for an old person is far less for the flu if they are exposed to someone with the flu due to measures that are in place which don’t exist for this strain of virus.

Comparing flu and Coronavirus at this point are apples and oranges. As they develop meds and vaccines for this strain of virus not only is the mortality a concern but so to are the treatments. For all anyone knows the vaccine once created could have serious side effects and and antiviral meds developed to target this strain could cause kidney, liver or heart failure. There are too many unknowns to feel comfortable and put yourself in position to be exposed in turn exposing others. I do not live in the US and this country I’m in has put out info that contradicts what every other government says. I trust the health ministry in this country over the Chinese which cover up their blunder or the the USA where it’s all about politics.
And I’d say, you are full of crap!
 

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Have you ever heard of a chest cold that puts 20% of people in the hospital? Do you have any conception of how horrifically bad a 20% hospitalization rate is for someone as contagious as the common cold?

20% of who? They just started mass distributing the test for Covid-19 in the last few days. Prior to that, the people going to the hospital were the ones in bad shape. It's an artificially inflated number.
 
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That tamiflu is useless.

Wasn't trying to be a champion of Tamiflu. I was only saying that something exists which is considered a treatment (even if not great and not a cure) for the flu. Plus there are vaccines. So a couple of options (even if not perfect) exist for that while it's too early for there to be anything for COVID-19 yet. If they keep working on it, obviously that will change in a year or so.
 
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20% of who? They just started mass distributing the test for Covid-19 in the last few days. Prior to that, the people going to the hospital were the ones in bad shape. It's an artificially inflated number.

I was responding to someone who quoted a doctor saying "only 20% require hospitalization."

Yeah, due to uncounted cases it's probably a lot lower than that. But in the places this has spread uncontrolled, hospitals have quickly filled beyond capacity. If the real number is 5% (guessing based on South Korea's fatality rate being about 1/4 of other places, and them testing EVERYBODY), and 10 million people catch it... that's half a million people hospitalized.
 

BigBlueFanGA

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This isn't that. It's the same basic virus as cold flu sars etc. No cure.

As to the other point, the term cure is up for debate. But that's really a separate issue
Ok, enough, that is arrogance hiding behind ignorance. Saying its the same basic virus as the cold is like saying MRSA is just another staph infection, no difference.
 
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1-Windmills cause cancer
2-Global warming is a hoax invented by the Chinese
3-The mainstream media is largely responsible for the worldwide Corona pandemic
4-Donald is smarter than his generals and knows more than the scientists, being a very stable genius and all.
5- We're in good hands!

I add
6- You can go to work with it.

And

Mike Pence will pray it away :) Or go see Ben Carson for treatment.

But no matter the jokes, or those who like to see conspiracies, or deny reality, I sure hope that the games are played and with fans. If people going to games, restaurants, concerts, or other public events just pay a little attention to preventitive measures they will be fine.
 

BigBlueFanGA

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Dr. Drew huh? Thanks but I'll take my info from the CDC, WHO and Dr. Fauci. Dr. Drew is a basic physician on tv.
 

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I’m as conservative as anyone. I grew up in KY but I live in NYC and Miami. I have a pretty good read on what’s political and reality so I’ll let you believe what you want. This, like anything can be politicized on both sides, but certainly not a real advantage to anyone. Facts are facts. Denial is your choice. I hope it slows as it warms up. The spread in Brazil and Australia would say that’s not as likely as you hope. I guess the entire world is creating this because you think it hurts a candidate or fits an agenda. Of course the press over does it like they do everything, but that doesn’t mean it’s not real or the threat is a hoax. The truth is always in the middle, but you keep your head in the sand and hopefully this doesn’t impact anyone you care about.

If you’re not traveling, I’m not traveling. :)

Unless it’s to a Reds/Cards game. Those tix are worth Corona :smiley:
 

morgousky

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Too many watch only Fox News.
Some of you kill me.

Tucker Carlson is sounding the alarm on Corona WORSE than anyone on any other network.

Fox is saying this will touch someone you know eventually. They’re calling it a PANDEMIC.

At some point a few of you need to actually watch Fox News. Most politicians left of middle and right hate Fox becuase they have real hard news anchors like Wallace and Baier and they don’t want to answer real questions when CNN and MSNBC have their talking points covered. The opinion shows are conservative. But they call them OPINION shows. It’s the only network that has them from the conservative side. CNN and MSNBC call their opinion leftist shows “hard news”. It’s a damn joke. Take Biden for example. Politics aside, he has dementia. It’s clear to anyone who can think with a half brain. But CNN and MSNBC won’t touch it. Fox will cover it. They covered Bush family issues in 2008 having to do with Iraq. They’ve covered real news on Clinton’s rape. They covered Trump’s sexual hardassment claims and asked him during Fox debates.

some of you just don’t know what real news is anymore becuase most of the MSM has your team covered.

It’s incredible how stupid people are when it comes to Fox News.
 
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There have been several schools closed this winter due to the flu. They closed them for a reason.
Exactly, People in charge of public/private organizations, etc, close schools,etc, in a response to public out-cry in order to show thye are "doing something" and not be accussed of not caring for the well-being of their students / citizens / (get re-elected). The majority of the time it is a "cover your A**" decision and not an actual indication of the seriousness.

The stats say it isn't any more serious than Swine, SARS, Zika, Avian (all in election years) or even the yearly flu (vaccinations are for known strands, new strands occur every year); but the media blew this thing into a frenzy and got the public in panic mode to where people are being forced to make decisions to try to calm the public.

**Almost every election year there is some "pandemic"
 

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This isn't that. It's the same basic virus as cold flu sars etc. No cure.

As to the other point, the term cure is up for debate. But that's really a separate issue

Doesn’t matter if Hep C isn’t coronavirus.

You accused a poster of spreading misinformation and followed it up the blanket statement that “viruses don’t have treatments.” That’s simply not a true statement and the point of me bringing up Gilead was to highlight the fact that your statement was not at all accurate.

Antivirals are an entire class of drugs that are treatments for viruses.
 
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Ok, enough, that is arrogance hiding behind ignorance. Saying its the same basic virus as the cold is like saying MRSA is just another staph infection, no difference.

Ila cold and flu are both coronavirus. This is just a new one which is why it was called novel.

This isn't as bad as sars or mers.

Why do you feel the need to panic? Worse why do you feel the need to urge panic on others?
 

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By treatment do you mean rest and time? because that is all you can do for the flu.... Do you understand how a virus works? It doesn't sound like it.
 
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Dr. Drew huh? Thanks but I'll take my info from the CDC, WHO and Dr. Fauci. Dr. Drew is a basic physician on tv.
Here's another - along with Dr. Drew - quoting the importance of doing as Dr. Fauci recommends. Do as these two say and you'll be following CDC and Dr. Fauci guidelines, just as in the previous video.

 

BigBlueFanGA

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Here's another - along with Dr. Drew - quoting the importance of doing as Dr. Fauci recommends. Do as these two say and you'll be following CDC and Dr. Fauci guidelines, just as in the previous video.


My issue with Drew is his underselling of the problem, that part is not in sync with Fauci and the others. The basic precautions are the same. I can't stand Oz.
 

BigBlueFanGA

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Ila cold and flu are both coronavirus. This is just a new one which is why it was called novel.

This isn't as bad as sars or mers.

Why do you feel the need to panic? Worse why do you feel the need to urge panic on others?
You're wrong before you even start. Influenza is not a coronavirus.