Can of worms

[Greene Rice FIG]

Pikiell gets paid $3,000,000 plus per year. As a player I can totally understand where they are coming from.

I know this isn’t the arguement...(as an economic assignment)....From a dollars and cents standpoint Pikiell probably earns his money and I’ll bet Geo may not have a worth to Rutgers that equals the aggregate of his “benefits”. How much is Geo better than his replacement value. On any given year a player can be plucked out of the portal or be recruited out of high school. I might argue a player like Myles Johnson could have economic value over what he has received in benefits.

 

[RUInsanityToo]

So they are here for your entertainment? Shut up and dribble?

Methinks you may have mis-interpreted the point.

 

[RUInsanityToo]

Someone is paying out money . My donation helps and has helped for years to not only athletes but regular student body kids. So I guess that’s “ giving “ out money . The old saying of “ be careful what you wish for”. In Baker’s case if he is good enough to get endorsements more power to him my only concern. He’s not that good.

I think you are also missing the point. Currently Baker is not able to get paid for endorsements, regardless of how good or bad he may be.

 

[RUBOB72]

I think you are also missing the point. Currently Baker is not able to get paid for endorsements, regardless of how good or bad he may be.

No I under stand that point. Baker’ s claim of losing out by not being compensated for his likeness while others are able to use it is due to the NCAA old man syndrome. They’re keeping them all down . What will eventually happen is D1 scholarships will be limited or dissolved so only the very select will be monetarily compensated. If you make it a business it will be run as a business. That will as someone noted earlier result in only the strong survive. The scaling down of conferences and contracts . People are going to be surprised when the big financial hit comes and it is definitely coming. Buy Gold

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

There are many separate issues. I am not for someone to profit as an individual. I might think it is OK to collectively as a unit to take revenue from alternate sources such as a video game and have that revenue paid to all athletes either as an annuity stream received after leaving college or as a lump sum.

I am not sure where I may stand there.

I just don't think a college or amateur player should go in to playing a sport with the expectation of making a profit. The college is providing this as a perk to the student. Over the past 40 years things have evolved so much where there has become so much money to gain and so much money to be lost and as a result coaching salaries and facilites have gone overboard.

I get why the athletes are upset, but in the end it is going to lead to the destruction of college basketball as we know it.

Although the 3 point shot and the shot clock killed it 30+ years ago

 

[rureadyforsomefootball]

Geo just added a **** load of people across the country that will want Rutgers to be a one and done. I totally understand his point, and understand he wants to take advantage of the moment. With that said, is there ever going to be a time we can watch sports again without some sort of an agenda being preached? I'd bet dollars to donuts there's fans, I'm sure even in the Big Ten saying please, you haven't been here in 30 years, just STFU and play the game and try to make a run!!!

 

[zappaa]

Interesting POV so why would people be against it if this flops then nothing ventured and nothing gained.

How would you manage “friends of the program” or millionaire boosters from enticing players to the university they support by offering top recruits money for appearances?
And what would be the recourse if the player sucked and the booster reneged?

 

[RUsojo]

There are so many different issues at hand.

I’m going to set aside NIL and business opportunities outside of playing the games that involve monetizing skill through camps/training, and college Athletics organizational structure (non-employee designation/medical benefits, title IX, competitive landscape implications, budget allocation to staffs, debt-servicing, no starters, etc).

I think somewhere in the many many perspectives people have, two perspectives that some people look through the lense of when offering their opinion are 1)that everything that is given or not given to the athletes is based on their Amateur designation 2) those that acknowledge there is no such thing as an amateur athlete in American college rev ru sports in practicality now because stating the business of sport has changed dramatically since amateur status was created is an understatement.

 

[scarlethoops_rivals]

How would you manage “friends of the program” or millionaire boosters from enticing players to the university they support by offering top recruits money for appearances?
And what would be the recourse if the player sucked and the booster reneged?

Really with this take? We don’t think this is actively happening behind closed doors now? How is the current arms race being managed? Ohio States athletic budget vs RU? How about what Phil Knight pours into Oregon? It’s never been and it’s never going to be an even playing field. Full transparency at least let’s Rutgers and other know what they are up against and from there you build your strategy and your vision for your athletic department.

 

[Eagleton95.99]

I'm sure the fact that Geo is trapped in a little room, can't go outside, and has been isolated for a year from friends and family, provides him lots of opportunities to dwell on this issue.

 

[zappaa]

There are so many different issues at hand.

I’m going to set aside NIL and business opportunities outside of playing the games that involve monetizing skill through camps/training, and college Athletics organizational structure (non-employee designation/medical benefits, title IX, competitive landscape implications, budget allocation to staffs, debt-servicing, no starters, etc).

I think somewhere in the many many perspectives people have, two perspectives that some people look through the lense of when offering their opinion are 1)that everything that is given or not given to the athletes is based on their Amateur designation 2) those that acknowledge there is no such thing as an amateur athlete in American college rev ru sports in practicality now because stating the business of sport has changed dramatically since amateur status was created is an understatement.

You don’t know the business, I do
What I am in favor of is kids should be able to market themselves and be paid for working camps and clinics in exchange for their services

 

[fg7321]

How would you manage “friends of the program” or millionaire boosters from enticing players to the university they support by offering top recruits money for appearances?
And what would be the recourse if the player sucked and the booster reneged?

There would have to be some regulation of how this would work, but you cannot just say no.

 

[zappaa]

There would have to be some regulation of how this would work, but you cannot just say no.

If the market is the one valuing their worth, it will be zero.
If a booster wants to value a player and make promissory pay dates, that’s what you’ll get.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

It’s not really all that debatable. There’s a reason football and men’s basketball are called “revenue sports.”

Any reasonable method of revenue recognition would attribute most of the money to football and men’s basketball.

Of course......it was said basketball is profitable, so how much of the revenue from the B1G are you allocating to hoops? Are you allocating any of football's expenses to hoops? An investment in football was required to be in the B1G

 

[RUsojo]

You don’t know the business, I do
What I am in favor of is kids should be able to market themselves and be paid for working camps and clinics in exchange for their services

I’ve worked in the business soooooo

Yeah that’s what I’ve been saying haha