I think so too. He's too good for it not to. I believe Cam is going to give us plenty of big performances
Cam's struggles
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I think so too. He's too good for it not to. I believe Cam is going to give us plenty of big performances
I hear ya man. Some of the crap that is posted on here is thr and rump rafters worthy......good lord
Depends how you are taking it. Sports psychologist doesn't necessarily mean it is a pathological or clinical issue. Think of foul shooting. I am gonna guess that Jason William's didn't need counseling during his days playing for Duke, but a sports psychologist might have been able to help him with his FT shooting.
I think Cam is real close to breaking out. I think as good as the played the last few minutes of the Tech game his confidence is growing. Look out Clemson, it may be you he explodes on!!!
OFC
You really do seem to have issues reading. Do you have any idea what they even do? In case you missed my point (which is very likely), you train the physical aspects of your game all of the time at their level. Why not train your mind as well? You can go **** yourself, by the way.
Debate is fine, and believe me, I’ve had plenty with some on here, and said more sometimes than I should. Your view isn’t that far out there, but you won’t get anywhere on this board with your last sentence. Especially to a long time poster.
You can look it up, he was top 5ish coming out of high school.
Surely you're not disagreeing that he was a bust last year. If you are, go check out the advanced stats here, all the way at the bottom: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/duke/2018.html
13th out 14 guys on the roster when it comes to points contributed on O and D, behind Goldwire. He was epically bad on both sides of the court, shockingly so when you consider he was a top 5 recruit.
He was just a really poor fit for what we need in a PG. Would have been much better off at a place like UK, where athletic PGs who can't shoot seem to thrive.
Just stop. Your point was dramatic, your response was immature, you are still very much the t***l you were originally called out to be. You pop up from time to time with these incredibly weird takes. Be better at your gig.
He responded to QC reply which was to someone else’s comment. I was like WTH is this about.
Dude, WTH is wrong with you? He gets it. He disagrees with your take. That happens all the time. Get over it.
Yea I don’t respond to ignorance. I just consider the source.
Yeah, I'm about to see if I have my old counselor's number to share with him lol J/k.
Well, Cam is still really struggling. I hate to say it, but I actually sort of cringe when he gets the ball... I sort of anticipate him losing it or missing or something. Not fair maybe, but... At some point I expect it will click... he still just looks sped up out there, like he is moving faster than he should be.
@dukefan5566 may just be taken out of context. Go f*** yourself is actually a term of endearment in Boston. It's basically just saying, have a nice day.
I wouldn’t say cringe is how i feel but certainly you get a feeling of nervousness. I think we all want him to stop thinking/over thinking and just play ball. The first shot of the game is probably bigger for him than anyone on our team. I almost feel like once he sees one go in to start the game it will allow him to settle down. The game needs to slow down and clear up for him; he also just needs to trust his game and talent.
Cams issue is real. That "position" is what ends up making or breaking us. We get that position serviceable from 3, we're not losing. I agree he needs a little more time, but if the 3 doesn't show up soon, i'd like to see Alex there. No disrespect to Jack, but I like JUST the way K uses him now, it's perfection, but I feel if Alex were given the green light, he rips 3 pointers in that position and we kill it from there.
I don't think this is a bad thought to at least toy with. Wonder how much it changes the defense though??
We started the first 2 possessions of the Clemson game by trying to get Cam going. He bricked a terrible 3 and he also turned the ball over. He had 6 turnovers in 16 minutes....Tre had 0 in 34 minutes.
I'll be honest, I don't know what we should do. Jack is playing like he deserves to start, but I really like him coming off the bench because of the flexibility he gives us. We can go small by playing Jack/Zion at the bigs, or we can play Jack at the wing along with Zion and either Jav/Ques.
But at the same time...we can't afford to keep starting Cam and get off to these disaster starts, it's gonna bite us in a tough road game.
Were not a great perimeter shooting team, it's really our only weakness, we MUST have Cam be Cam by March if we wanna win the title. Even if it costs us a conference game or two. Keep rolling him out there and let him work out this funk.
I'll be honest, I don't know what we should do. Jack is playing like he deserves to start, but I really like him coming off the bench because of the flexibility he gives us. We can go small by playing Jack/Zion at the bigs, or we can play Jack at the wing along with Zion and either Jav/Ques.
But at the same time...we can't afford to keep starting Cam and get off to these disaster starts, it's gonna bite us in a tough road game.
Were not a great perimeter shooting team, it's really our only weakness, we MUST have Cam be Cam by March if we wanna win the title. Even if it costs us a conference game or two. Keep rolling him out there and let him work out this funk.
Another thing is we don't know what is happening in practice...maybe he is lighting it up everyday and K feels like he is close to taking that to a live game. Hard to say.
The scoring portion is one issue but taking dumb fouls (got 2 in like 3 minutes of playing time) and the turnovers is just unacceptable. Know K has gone the positive route with Cam thus far in regards to motivation. May be time to sit him on the bench and light into his *** the next time that he does the above. Love this kid but he’s got to get out of his funk and I’m not sure there is another way to light a fire under his ***.
He's probably knocking them down one after another in practice.it's all between his ears at this point.
I feel like we keep saying that Cam needs to just see one or two fall and he'll be okay. Then there will be a game where one or two falls and his completely disappears on offense again. I love how tough he is on defense and that he doesn't allow his offensive struggles to affect his defensive game. But man... His offensive game hasn't been much of a threat during his collegiate career thus far.
Hope he comes out of his funk soon. Maybe he’s pressing, making it worse due to the other freshmen not struggling. RJ isn’t a good shooter, but he still scores.
Maybe we should use some of the extra $$ in the PTRF, and get him one of those Louisville escorts.
We would know he’d have a good game tomorrow when will see him smoking a cigarette doing his warm ups at Wake Forest.
Maybe we should use some of the extra $$ in the PTRF, and get him one of those Louisville escorts.
We would know he’d have a good game tomorrow when will see him smoking a cigarette doing his warm ups at Wake Forest.
An effective Cam makes this team really unstoppable....
I think you ride it out as long as it takes, who cares if it costs a game or two. If he gets it going he can be really good on defense as well. Until we get to the ACC tourney Duke needs to do everything they can to try and get him back to an efficient offensive player.
I think you ride it out as long as it takes, who cares if it costs a game or two. If he gets it going he can be really good on defense as well. Until we get to the ACC tourney Duke needs to do everything they can to try and get him back to an efficient offensive player.
I just think Jack is so valuable in his role off the bench....whether it be as a leader, captain, veteran and with his play. I wouldn't mess with that.
Plus, I don't know Cam's mental makeup. As a coach, you handle each kid different....they're not all one in the same. When it comes to how K handles some of these mental challenges with players, I'll always defer to him. He knows them....I don't.
The good thing is you can tell Cam’s teammates all want him to come out of his funk. I watched how Jav on Saturday night told him “Let’s Go!”
I literally made this exact argument yesterday with some friends.
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Primarily, Cam's mental state is important. There is a lot to unpack there, so I won't go into it. But moving him to the bench won't help.
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Further, I LOVE Jack off the bench. Given our team's makeup, he is the ideal bench player. He can sub in for any of our starting wings, from Cam to RJ to Zion. Jack can't really play SG, but one of Cam or RJ can, so Jack can sub for one and the other switches to SG. He's an ideal college SF/PF. And he's consistent. He's probably not going to deliver "great" play, with "great" being defined by what we'd consider "great" for RJ or Zion. But he delivers "good" play, regardless of the scale. And he won't play badly. He's a calming, and steady, player off the bench.
One thing is for sure, if his 3 DOES get back on track, we're going to be MURDERING opponents.
Sometimes the only way out is through, Cam has got to just push through this **** right now and when he does...well he's going to be a two-way terror. His defense is already there and he plays hard, he just needs to.hit that groove offensively. I don't see the point in relegating a kid to the bench when he's a team first guy who helps make our defense the powerhouse it is.
I've checked Cam out since his Junior year in high school. This young blood will get it together. He has all the tools to be great and it's just a matter of time before he gets back to the Cam we saw earlier in the year. I just watched the game against Army again earlier today, and we he gets back to that Cam, turn out the lights.
Almost like he has hit the wall earlier then anybody else. Remember at one time late last year, he took over the number 1 ranked player over RJ. From what is being said, he is killing it in practice. He's too good to stay in a funk much longer. If he can just get that first one to fall, I think he will light somebody up soon.
Almost like he has hit the wall earlier then anybody else. Remember at one time late last year, he took over the number 1 ranked player over RJ. From what is being said, he is killing it in practice. He's too good to stay in a funk much longer. If he can just get that first one to fall, I think he will light somebody up soon.
At some point you have to figure a talent like him snaps out of the mental funk and gets it going. I truly believe that, it’s not like we haven’t seen it. Look no further than the first game he played this year. He’s capable, and when it happens look out. I keep him in the starting line up, i keep calling plays for him and i keep instilling trust that we believe in you and that we cannot reach where we want to be without you. Keep that message going. Some kids take a little longer. Run your own race. Good news is that his teammates aren’t bailing on him, much like they didn’t bail on RJ after Gonzaga like MANY did. Different circumstances but it speaks to the closeness and true comradary is this team.
I keep coming back to Tatum when I think about Cam and his struggles. I’m sure everyone remembers Tatum’s first few weeks of conference play, some Duke fans were calling for him to be taken off the team. Now, Tatum’s situation was different: he was coming off injury and joining a team that didn’t seem very connected and also lacked a floor general.
Long story short..by February, Tatum was clearly the best player on the team, just took a bit longer than everyone expected.
Cam was a top ranked player for a reason. He’s a great shooter, the percentage’s are gonna play out. He’s gonna explode for 7 three’s in a game soon, I can feel it. Once he starts hitting shots, the game will become much easier and slow down for him.
Long story short..by February, Tatum was clearly the best player on the team, just took a bit longer than everyone expected.
Cam was a top ranked player for a reason. He’s a great shooter, the percentage’s are gonna play out. He’s gonna explode for 7 three’s in a game soon, I can feel it. Once he starts hitting shots, the game will become much easier and slow down for him.
Cam will break out of this. He’s too good not to.
Didn’t Sulaimon have a similar stretch and he was sent to the bench and started lighting it up? I may be getting him confused with someone else.
Didn’t Sulaimon have a similar stretch and he was sent to the bench and started lighting it up? I may be getting him confused with someone else.
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