Cam Reddish

[BlueDaveil]

https://www.si.com/college-basketba...m&utm_medium=social&xid=socialflow_twitter_si

Good article talking about Cam and how versatile he can be on the floor. Zion and R.J. Seem to get a lot of the attention on next year’s squad but I think Cam may have me the most excited. Still very optimistic for what this current team can do this year but the future certainly looks bright!

 

[SwatX1]

They are going to be very exciting to watch!!

 

[Jake1985]

Great read. Thanks

 

[Tross282003]

Reddish, Williamson and Barrett all have 6’11 plus wingspans and are all highly athletic. Throw in tre Jones in the mix and it would hard to stop this team.

They can play man to man or zone. Shot from the outside rebound and score.

Next year’s team will be more enjoyable to watch. Turnovers won’t be an issue and neither will missed free throws.

 

[Mac9192]

Reddish, Williamson and Barrett all have 6’11 plus wingspans and are all highly athletic. Throw in tre Jones in the mix and it would hard to stop this team.

They can play man to man or zone. Shot from the outside rebound and score.

Next year’s team will be more enjoyable to watch. Turnovers won’t be an issue and neither will missed free throws.

Wow. So you sound like this incoming class and team next season will be better than what we are watching now. I suggest you archive some of the threads before this season started, and you'll see posts almost identical to what you just said.
Basically the newer kids will be better than the current, correct? You do realize we aren't quite done yet, don't you?

 

[Jake1985]

I don't think it's right to compare teams bc each are different and will be loaded with young talent.

It's ok to be excited about the incoming class and discuss both what those players will bring and how they will play together.

Just can't really compare teams

 

[BNM79]

Duke will still be young so we will continue to have our frustrations. A lot will depend on leadership from bolden and delaurier.

 

[Jake1985]

^ IF Bolden returns...

 

[BlueDaveil]

I certainly don’t expect to be undefeated and without our share of growing pains but there is a lot of really exciting potential. If Tre is close to the decision maker his brother was we should have so many possible ways to play. Hopefully Goldwire and/or Duval (not holding my breath) will be able to fill in for him in the very few minutes a game he isn’t playing. Or, if Duval happens to stay we could be looking at a 2 pg lineup that we seem to do so well with. Having O’Connell off the bench as a shooter and our stable of big men should allow us to play a more traditional lineup (except that 2-4 are all crazy long versatile playmakers) or the ultimate small ball team with someone like Javin at the 5.

 

[germantondevil]

Only time will tell. We have the most talent this year bar none but it show that doesn’t always equate to titles. We are down to our last shot with this group and it seems like a long shot. They are still 18 year old kids playing in a young mans game in college. We need for Bolden and Javin to be leaders for that team next year if they both stay another year.

 

[LetsGoDuke301]

Turnovers and free throws won't be an issue next year huh? Let's just fast forward to next year then.

 

[DukeRulesBasketball]

Reddish, Williamson and Barrett all have 6’11 plus wingspans and are all highly athletic. Throw in tre Jones in the mix and it would hard to stop this team.

They can play man to man or zone. Shot from the outside rebound and score.

Next year’s team will be more enjoyable to watch. Turnovers won’t be an issue and neither will missed free throws.

Despite the losses we have endured and no matter the outcome of the season, this has been and incredibly fun team to watch! I have enjoyed so much watching Wendell and Bagley!

 

[Jake1985]

No doubt this year has been fun (and the other f word, frustrating) to watch. So hard to imagine that Carter and Bagley (they will be drafted in the top 10) are that good and both bigs which Duke doesn't usually have the luxury of having. Last year with Giles and Bolden was supposed to be a peek at what 2 highly rated Fr bigs would bring but injuries killed that. So this year was fun to see.

Next year there are no Fr bigs (not counting Zion). Unless Duke lands EJ Monthomery and a grad guy which isn't 2 Fr but 2 new guys.

 

[Tross282003]

Wow. So you sound like this incoming class and team next season will be better than what we are watching now. I suggest you archive some of the threads before this season started, and you'll see posts almost identical to what you just said.
Basically the newer kids will be better than the current, correct? You do realize we aren't quite done yet, don't you?

I think this team has potiential to lose in the second round or win it all like last year’s team. Duval is a better NBA point guard than college point guard. Allen doesn’t have great lateral quickness and can’t beat his man off the dribble and turns the ball over too much. This team can’t shot free throws and has to play a zone due to lack lateral quickness.

This team also turns the ball over too much.

Duval decision making has to improve which it has. Bagley is a beast and Carter has good athleticism and length.

Tre Jones is more of a cerebral point guard like his brother and will shoot 75 to 80 percent from the free throw line and can knock down the three at a decent clip to keep the defense honest.

Bolden will better next year than he is this year. AOC will be more developed he was the same weight entering college as Bobby Hurley who was 7 inches shorter.

We will probably get EJ. He is not as good Carter or Bagley though.

This year team has high ceiling and a low floor.

Next year’s team has a high ceiling and a high floor.

 

[Jake1985]

EJ will not be as good as Bagley but he can play he Bagley role.
EJ can shoot the ball well, is good in the paint and grabs rebounds. Remember, at one point a few years back, EJ was the #1 rated player in the class and now, as a Sr, he has gotten his game in order and is rated in the top 15ish.

He won't be Bagley or as good as good as Bagley or put up Bagley like number, but he can do Bagley type things for Duke. He's no slouch.

 

[Laettner15]

EJ will not be as good as Bagley but he can play he Bagley role.
EJ can shoot the ball well, is good in the paint and grabs rebounds. Remember, at one point a few years back, EJ was the #1 rated player in the class and now, as a Sr, he has gotten his game in order and is rated in the top 15ish.

He won't be Bagley or as good as good as Bagley or put up Bagley like number, but he can do Bagley type things for Duke. He's no slouch.

Jake, I remember (I think it was last month) you having a good feeling with EJ coming here.... has those feelings changed at all?

 

[dukesince91]

I think this team has potiential to lose in the second round or win it all like last year’s team. Duval is a better NBA point guard than college point guard. Allen doesn’t have great lateral quickness and can’t beat his man off the dribble and turns the ball over too much. This team can’t shot free throws and has to play a zone due to lack lateral quickness.

This team also turns the ball over too much.

Duval decision making has to improve which it has. Bagley is a beast and Carter has good athleticism and length.

Tre Jones is more of a cerebral point guard like his brother and will shoot 75 to 80 percent from the free throw line and can knock down the three at a decent clip to keep the defense honest.

Bolden will better next year than he is this year. AOC will be more developed he was the same weight entering college as Bobby Hurley who was 7 inches shorter.

We will probably get EJ. He is not as good Carter or Bagley though.

This year team has high ceiling and a low floor.

Next year’s team has a high ceiling and a high floor.

What about it the roof? Is it high or low?

 

[Jake1985]

They have a bit. Here's why
1- UNC made a very appealing pitch to him and for him to possible start next to Maye has to (and is) very tempting. EJ is also being heavily recruited by UNC's 2018 class. White, Little and Black are all in contact with him. I know both he and his family were impressed with Coach Williams, the history of UNC and his opportunity there.

2- Kentucky took a huge leap after his visit there. Cal sold EJ on how well the Kentucky bigs are doing in the league and how he would develop there. EJ really liked the way Kentucky uses their bigs. Again, the tradition and history of Kentucky.

3- On March 3rd, EJ tweeted a video titled time for the next chapter and then took it down. Now that might be meaningless but it plays into that he's not ready to make a decision.

He might wait until after the McD's game and seeing who is returning or entering the draft (info as per Evan Daniels).

My opinion is this, I think he "wanted" to go to Duke and that's why he reached out, but Zion shocked everyone by picking Duke. I still think EJ likes the idea of going to Duke and bring a part of Duke's 2018 class. I know K sold him on positionless basketball by using examples of how he played elite players with USA Basketball and how the offense could be like that of the GS Warriors.

Here's what I think EJ wants
- to not be stuck in the paint as a full time 5
- the opportunity to develop in college and to have the opportunity to be considered OAD
- to play and have a definite role
- to be seen as a priority recruit and need for the team.

Here's Duke's hurdles
A) Bolden returning/leaving: if Bolden returns, EJ would potentially have a lesser role, but if Bolden leaves, EJ would play more as a 5. Double edged sword.
B) Co-existing with Zion & RJ: EJ used to be at the same HS as RJ but transferred out his Sr year. Chemistry? Zion will play the 4 role and can EJ and him co-exist? EJ is looking at the Carter/Bagley relationship and how they are used together.
C) Being a necessity: EJ needs to feel like he's a priority and equally as important as the other 4 guys in the 2018 class.

Long winded, yes.

I think Duke is still 1A but the gap is tight with Unc and Kentucky being 1B's.

 

[Laettner15]

They have a bit. Here's why
1- UNC made a very appealing pitch to him and for him to possible start next to Maye has to (and is) very tempting. EJ is also being heavily recruited by UNC's 2018 class. White, Little and Black are all in contact with him. I know both he and his family were impressed with Coach Williams, the history of UNC and his opportunity there.

2- Kentucky took a huge leap after his visit there. Cal sold EJ on how well the Kentucky bigs are doing in the league and how he would develop there. EJ really liked the way Kentucky uses their bigs. Again, the tradition and history of Kentucky.

3- On March 3rd, EJ tweeted a video titled time for the next chapter and then took it down. Now that might be meaningless but it plays into that he's not ready to make a decision.

He might wait until after the McD's game and seeing who is returning or entering the draft (info as per Evan Daniels).

My opinion is this, I think he "wanted" to go to Duke and that's why he reached out, but Zion shocked everyone by picking Duke. I still think EJ likes the idea of going to Duke and bring a part of Duke's 2018 class. I know K sold him on positionless basketball by using examples of how he played elite players with USA Basketball and how the offense could be like that of the GS Warriors.

Here's what I think EJ wants
- to not be stuck in the paint as a full time 5
- the opportunity to develop in college and to have the opportunity to be considered OAD
- to play and have a definite role
- to be seen as a priority recruit and need for the team.

Here's Duke's hurdles
A) Bolden returning/leaving: if Bolden returns, EJ would potentially have a lesser role, but if Bolden leaves, EJ would play more as a 5. Double edged sword.
B) Co-existing with Zion & RJ: EJ used to be at the same HS as RJ but transferred out his Sr year. Chemistry? Zion will play the 4 role and can EJ and him co-exist? EJ is looking at the Carter/Bagley relationship and how they are used together.
C) Being a necessity: EJ needs to feel like he's a priority and equally as important as the other 4 guys in the 2018 class.

Long winded, yes.

I think Duke is still 1A but the gap is tight with Unc and Kentucky being 1B's.

Wow thank you so much for that insight!

 

[LouisiAaron]

I think next year's team may break the offensive efficiency record. Just think about the guys we will have. Tre Jones is more of a true point guard. He plays to set up his guys and doesn't necessarily has to score. He has been schooled on being a point guard forever. (Tre Duval is more of a raw point guard which is why he make a lot of mistakes now.) We will have RJ, Cam and Zion who all can put the ball on the floor and get to the rack. The floor will be more spread out and the drive-and-kick game will be in full effect. If Zion can give us about 10 boards a game that team will be nasty. Also we will be able to get back to man-to-man defense. Tre, Cam and RJ can defend and are long on the perimeter. Next year will definitely be more exciting to watch games.

 

[Jake1985]

I've said it, been saying it and will continue to say it. With the players coming in and the players returning, Duke HAS TO HAVE A GOOD 5.

 

[Jake1985]

Last thing to think about when talking incoming players... Chemistry. The 2018 class seem to be tight but unlike the 2015, the 2018's don't have that same time in events playing together like 2015 had with USA Basketball

 

[DukeDenver]

I've said it, been saying it and will continue to say it. With the players coming in and the players returning, Duke HAS TO HAVE A GOOD 5.

I would rather have another top 150 SG or PG than a true center. We have plenty of length on board if Bolden stays. Give me a team loaded with 6'8 and 6'6' guys with ball skills and vision.

 

[Mac9192]

Last thing to think about when talking incoming players... Chemistry. The 2018 class seem to be tight but unlike the 2015, the 2018's don't have that same time in events playing together like 2015 had with USA Basketball

Experienced guys to go with freshmen are the key. I'm talking about the one's in the rotation too. The 15 team had multiple guys with 3 stud freshmen, this team has 1 to go with 4. To me it's that simple.

 

[Showenuff]

If Bolden returns you can ARCHIVE this motha right now. We WILL be better next year. I'm not talking about who goes farther, but regular season compared to regular season, i'll take bets, we're better next season barring of course some injury BS like has hit in the past.

 

[DukeDenver]

If Bolden returns you can ARCHIVE this motha right now. We WILL be better next year. I'm not talking about who goes farther, but regular season compared to regular season, i'll take bets, we're better next season barring of course some injury BS like has hit in the past.

Tre Jones + AOC + Reddish + Barrett + Jack White = smooth AF offense
That's one amazing facilitator with 4 very good facilitators and all 5 guys can score. Yes, I know Zion or Bolden will start over Jack, but sometimes the 5th guy should just be the perfect accessory to the other 4 guys rather than going with the best 5 all the time.

I have a feeling we will struggle on D. Zion will give us a ton in rebounding and finishing at the rim, but he's not great on D, nor will he pass the ball well. He needs to be the "center" without another plodder in there at the same time.

I'd like to see Bolden start and bring in Zion for him as an insane 6th manchild dunker of thunder. It's early days. Are we going to get another guard? If not, then expect to see Goldwire at least 12 minutes per game.

 

[pisgah101]

I'm sick of the "we'll be better next year"

 

[Showenuff]

Actually, Zion IS a pretty good passer. Agreed on the defense but Tre and RJ will be good defenders.

 

[Jake1985]

Tre & RJ are coming in being pretty good defenders and Cam is making it his focus and he has the tools. Zion can be a good shot blocker as a recovering/second defender and he is a good rebounder.

 

[LouisiAaron]

Tre & RJ are coming in being pretty good defenders and Cam is making it his focus and he has the tools. Zion can be a good shot blocker as a recovering/second defender and he is a good rebounder.

If only he can be a little like Winslow. That’s how we need him to play

 

[SwatX1]

I'm not knocking Duval, but I think, as I've said before, Tre Jones will be a better shooter, which will help us be a little more difficult to defend. We should still have a good inside game, but maybe be better at mid-range jumpers. I think it will come down to good decision making by EVERYONE when they have the ball.

 

[dukedevilz]

I don't want to scare anyone, but our guys coming in aren't exactly prolific shooters. We need to enjoy the team this year, because we are pretty crazy talented. Full of blemishes and weaknesses? Sure. But next year's team can't just roll the ball out and expect to win. Take a look at some of their shooting percentages from AAU Games in 2017.

D-1 Circuit Games:
FG%:
Tre Jones- 52.2%
RJ Barrett- 43.5%
Cam Reddish- 40.3%

3-pt%:
RJ Barrett- 31.2%
Cam Reddish- 29.7%
Tre Jones- 24.4%

FT%:
Cam Reddish- 77.6%
Tre Jones- 71.5%
RJ Barrett- 58.2%

Games Played: Jones- 21, Reddish-17, Barrett- 8

- Barrett also shot 23.8% (5 for 21) in the 2017 U19 World Championships. His free throw shooting was a little better then at 75.4%
- Zion was 7 for 35 from 3 for Spartanburg Day. He was also made 60.8% from the free throw line. He did, however, shoot a ridiculous 78.3% from the field (certainly weak competition played a factor here).

If it's any consolation, I'm pretty sure Bagley and Carter were both shooting below 30% in the AAU Games. Either way, next year's team will have a long ways to go before matching this year's 3-point shooting.

 

[DukeDenver]

Actually, Zion IS a pretty good passer. Agreed on the defense but Tre and RJ will be good defenders.

He is? I want proof!

 

[Jake1985]

The 2018 class is not a top 3pt shooting group. Can they knock them down, yes. Are they continuing to work on it, yes. Is it their strength, no.

This group will need to move the ball, isolate, dribble drive, hit mid range jumpers and knock down 3's when possible.

This is why I keep saying, next year's team really needs a 5 that has the ability to score.

 

[Showenuff]

 

[pisgah101]

Ohh boy another year with little spacing and ball movement. I love constant ISO sign me up

 

[DukeDenver]

Ohh boy another year with little spacing and ball movement. I love constant ISO sign me up

Carmelo flashes his ring.

 

[pisgah101]

Carmelo flashes his ring.

HAHA! True!!

 

[Jake1985]

Well, can Zion do what Bagley does? Or play that role?

 

[DukeDenver]

HAHA! True!!

I would prefer good spacing and good ball movement out of my team, but I also prefer winning. No perfect formula.